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1 week ago  ::  Jun 13, 2018 - 11:52PM #181
namers
Posts: 4,053

Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:40PM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:07PM, namers wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:46PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:34PM, bumper wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:28PM, Lola wrote:

Here come the trolls!



duck!! they were chompin at the bit and started a couple innings ago. some of the recent whipping boys had good games or did not play but i suspect gray, shreve & hicks will top tonight's hit parade. as new said, we've played pretty well for a last place team ... 




Shreve is who he is. Not a big factor on the team. Probably the 7th reliever out of a 8 man bullpen. He has to pitch sometimes and tonight with 4 lefties batting out of 5 hitters was the time to bring him in. But he wound up facing one lefty too many.


Gray especially with Tanaka out has to stay in the rotation. I knew this was going to be a very tough matchup for him and Gray generally doesn't pitch well at home. Honestly I didn't expect much from him tonight.


But Hicks is another story. He plays way too much and it is unbelievable that a team with World Series aspitations continues to run him out there almost every day. I don't get it. He should be a role player and if he was people wouldn't get on him because he would not be playing enough to hurt the team. But he is really being exposed as a starting player. 



 


Hicks/Karter is a big WTF. On and on. So what's going on with Ellsbury? 






LOL That's a new one...now we want Hicks outta there so badly, we're asking for Ellsbury. Yeah, I too have had it with Hicks. Mediocrity is the best he'll ever achieve in the majors. At least we'll still have the fist 2 months of 2017 to remember him by...what could've been, never materialized.




I don't really want him but I thought he was due back. I found it amusing that people stopped talking about him.

1 week ago  ::  Jun 14, 2018 - 12:52AM #182
davis2
Posts: 14,609

Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:52PM, namers wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:40PM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:07PM, namers wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:46PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:34PM, bumper wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:28PM, Lola wrote:

Here come the trolls!



duck!! they were chompin at the bit and started a couple innings ago. some of the recent whipping boys had good games or did not play but i suspect gray, shreve & hicks will top tonight's hit parade. as new said, we've played pretty well for a last place team ... 




Shreve is who he is. Not a big factor on the team. Probably the 7th reliever out of a 8 man bullpen. He has to pitch sometimes and tonight with 4 lefties batting out of 5 hitters was the time to bring him in. But he wound up facing one lefty too many.


Gray especially with Tanaka out has to stay in the rotation. I knew this was going to be a very tough matchup for him and Gray generally doesn't pitch well at home. Honestly I didn't expect much from him tonight.


But Hicks is another story. He plays way too much and it is unbelievable that a team with World Series aspitations continues to run him out there almost every day. I don't get it. He should be a role player and if he was people wouldn't get on him because he would not be playing enough to hurt the team. But he is really being exposed as a starting player. 



 


Hicks/Karter is a big WTF. On and on. So what's going on with Ellsbury? 






LOL That's a new one...now we want Hicks outta there so badly, we're asking for Ellsbury. Yeah, I too have had it with Hicks. Mediocrity is the best he'll ever achieve in the majors. At least we'll still have the fist 2 months of 2017 to remember him by...what could've been, never materialized.




I don't really want him but I thought he was due back. I found it amusing that people stopped talking about him.



He's a banana peel away from retirement!!!  Isn't he related to Parvo(Pavano)?

1 week ago  ::  Jun 14, 2018 - 1:14AM #183
mikedorb
Posts: 727

Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:49PM, yikes wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:39PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:23PM, yikes wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:17PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:47PM, yikes wrote:


frazier started really hot last year but at the end there his numbers were not that much better than what hicks is now


matter of fact if im not mistaken it was worse




Hicks has already established who he is over a number of years. You can't compare him with Frazier who had 142 plate appearances last season and 11 so far this season. Come on be fair. If you want to be the leader of the Aaron Hicks fan club go right ahead. I can't stop you. But I don't like Hicks as a player at all and never did. I don't think he offers much to the team especially as a starting player.  I think the Yankees need to try to keep getting better even though they have a great record and I think Frazier over Hicks would be an upgrade.  





im not a huge fan of hicks but hes better than frazier or the same and if all things are equal ill take the defense


if the yanks really feel the way you do they would have brought him up already...why not?




Who do you think has more trade value? Hicks or Frazier. I think a lot of teams like Frazier's potential and Hicks would bring you little back in a trade. I don't think there are many teams that think Hicks is a starting major league outfielder. 


The Yankees have always through the years had love affairs with players most of us knew weren't that good. And I don't even think Hicks defense is all that special. All I will say is his defense is better than his offense which isn't saying much. But for some reason the Yankees love him and Boone makes things worse by batting him more often than not in the middle of the lineup. This makes no sense because he never was a run producer.    





i hope your right that frazier has more trade value cause i would love to package him and someoone else and get a decent starting pitcher




What starting pitcher are they going to able to trade for who is going to be a difference maker? Even if they trade for an ace which is highly unlikely there is no guarantee the Yankees will win the World Series. I do expect them to trade for a lower level starting pitcher but as I said before if they fall short this season it will likely be because they did not hit and not because of their pitching.  

1 week ago  ::  Jun 14, 2018 - 3:15AM #184
yikes
Posts: 2,558

Jun 14, 2018 -- 1:14AM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:49PM, yikes wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:39PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:23PM, yikes wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:17PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:47PM, yikes wrote:


frazier started really hot last year but at the end there his numbers were not that much better than what hicks is now


matter of fact if im not mistaken it was worse




Hicks has already established who he is over a number of years. You can't compare him with Frazier who had 142 plate appearances last season and 11 so far this season. Come on be fair. If you want to be the leader of the Aaron Hicks fan club go right ahead. I can't stop you. But I don't like Hicks as a player at all and never did. I don't think he offers much to the team especially as a starting player.  I think the Yankees need to try to keep getting better even though they have a great record and I think Frazier over Hicks would be an upgrade.  





im not a huge fan of hicks but hes better than frazier or the same and if all things are equal ill take the defense


if the yanks really feel the way you do they would have brought him up already...why not?




Who do you think has more trade value? Hicks or Frazier. I think a lot of teams like Frazier's potential and Hicks would bring you little back in a trade. I don't think there are many teams that think Hicks is a starting major league outfielder. 


The Yankees have always through the years had love affairs with players most of us knew weren't that good. And I don't even think Hicks defense is all that special. All I will say is his defense is better than his offense which isn't saying much. But for some reason the Yankees love him and Boone makes things worse by batting him more often than not in the middle of the lineup. This makes no sense because he never was a run producer.    





i hope your right that frazier has more trade value cause i would love to package him and someoone else and get a decent starting pitcher




What starting pitcher are they going to able to trade for who is going to be a difference maker? Even if they trade for an ace which is highly unlikely there is no guarantee the Yankees will win the World Series. I do expect them to trade for a lower level starting pitcher but as I said before if they fall short this season it will likely be because they did not hit and not because of their pitching.  




not hit enough?  ok, i guess we can win with the rotation we got now then


i just looked this up


yanks happen to lead in runs scored by team 5.43/game , not good enough i suppose


anyway, im not hear to argue with you, i personally dont care what you believe in, but you have the  right to say whatever you want to say without being called names such as troll or whatever

1 week ago  ::  Jun 14, 2018 - 8:23AM #185
mikedorb
Posts: 727

Jun 14, 2018 -- 3:15AM, yikes wrote:


Jun 14, 2018 -- 1:14AM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:49PM, yikes wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:39PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:23PM, yikes wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:17PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:47PM, yikes wrote:


frazier started really hot last year but at the end there his numbers were not that much better than what hicks is now


matter of fact if im not mistaken it was worse




Hicks has already established who he is over a number of years. You can't compare him with Frazier who had 142 plate appearances last season and 11 so far this season. Come on be fair. If you want to be the leader of the Aaron Hicks fan club go right ahead. I can't stop you. But I don't like Hicks as a player at all and never did. I don't think he offers much to the team especially as a starting player.  I think the Yankees need to try to keep getting better even though they have a great record and I think Frazier over Hicks would be an upgrade.  





im not a huge fan of hicks but hes better than frazier or the same and if all things are equal ill take the defense


if the yanks really feel the way you do they would have brought him up already...why not?




Who do you think has more trade value? Hicks or Frazier. I think a lot of teams like Frazier's potential and Hicks would bring you little back in a trade. I don't think there are many teams that think Hicks is a starting major league outfielder. 


The Yankees have always through the years had love affairs with players most of us knew weren't that good. And I don't even think Hicks defense is all that special. All I will say is his defense is better than his offense which isn't saying much. But for some reason the Yankees love him and Boone makes things worse by batting him more often than not in the middle of the lineup. This makes no sense because he never was a run producer.    





i hope your right that frazier has more trade value cause i would love to package him and someoone else and get a decent starting pitcher




What starting pitcher are they going to able to trade for who is going to be a difference maker? Even if they trade for an ace which is highly unlikely there is no guarantee the Yankees will win the World Series. I do expect them to trade for a lower level starting pitcher but as I said before if they fall short this season it will likely be because they did not hit and not because of their pitching.  




not hit enough?  ok, i guess we can win with the rotation we got now then


i just looked this up


yanks happen to lead in runs scored by team 5.43/game , not good enough i suppose


anyway, im not hear to argue with you, i personally dont care what you believe in, but you have the  right to say whatever you want to say without being called names such as troll or whatever




If the Yankees don't hit home runs they don't score. The last 7 games in particular have shown that very clearly. And when you are in the playoffs you are facing better pitching and it is more difficult to hit home runs. This team doesn't string hits together to score runs. You can't expect 3 or 4 home runs in a playoff game. And why did the Yankees lose to the Astros in last year's ALCS? It is because they didn't hit in the games played in Houston. It wasn't because of their pitching. Their pitching was plenty good enough to win. They scored I believe 4 runs in 4 games. it was their hitting that failed them and not their pitching. And even with the old teams from 2001 on when they only won one championship it was their hitting that failed them and knocked them out most of the time and not their pitching.


Yes it would be nice to add a starting pitcher for depth because we don't have Montgomery and I wouldn't trust Gray to start a playoff game. But we should have Tanaka for the playoffs and hope he, Severino and CC will be good enough as the top 3 starters. Last year they were and it was our hitting that failed us. And the odds are if we fall short again it will be because of our hitting. Also remember because of the strength of our bullpen if our starters can pitch 5 or 6 good innings it may be enough We don't need 7 or 8 innings from our starters.


And who is this ace we are going to trade for that will win the Woirld Series for us? There are very few ace pitchers out there and most of them are already on contending teams. And even if we traded for an ace it wouldn't mean a hill of beans if we don't hit. Look at poor deGrom for the Mets. He is pitching almost to perfection and the Mets still can't win his games.


And speaking of deGrom maybe the Mets would trade him if a team grossly overpays. Would you like to see the Yankees offer them Torres, Andujar and Frazier for deGrom?  I wouldn't and I don't think even if the Yankees offered that it would be nearly enough to satisfy the Mets.They would want more. The Mets would have to be completely overwhelmed by any team to trade deGrom. That is why it is almost 100% certain he will remain with the Mets.


And looking to add another reliever might be a good idea. They are always a lot of good relievers available at the trading deadline. What is wrong with taking a strength and making it even stronger? Also Boston and especially Houston will be looking to improve their bullpens and if the Yankees can trade for somebody either of those teams wants it would be a win win for the Yankees.  


 


   

1 week ago  ::  Jun 14, 2018 - 8:39AM #186
yikes
Posts: 2,558

sorry, cant read this


your posts are too busy for me

1 week ago  ::  Jun 14, 2018 - 11:54PM #187
davis2
Posts: 14,609

Jun 14, 2018 -- 8:23AM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 14, 2018 -- 3:15AM, yikes wrote:


Jun 14, 2018 -- 1:14AM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:49PM, yikes wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:39PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:23PM, yikes wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:17PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:47PM, yikes wrote:


frazier started really hot last year but at the end there his numbers were not that much better than what hicks is now


matter of fact if im not mistaken it was worse




Hicks has already established who he is over a number of years. You can't compare him with Frazier who had 142 plate appearances last season and 11 so far this season. Come on be fair. If you want to be the leader of the Aaron Hicks fan club go right ahead. I can't stop you. But I don't like Hicks as a player at all and never did. I don't think he offers much to the team especially as a starting player.  I think the Yankees need to try to keep getting better even though they have a great record and I think Frazier over Hicks would be an upgrade.  





im not a huge fan of hicks but hes better than frazier or the same and if all things are equal ill take the defense


if the yanks really feel the way you do they would have brought him up already...why not?




Who do you think has more trade value? Hicks or Frazier. I think a lot of teams like Frazier's potential and Hicks would bring you little back in a trade. I don't think there are many teams that think Hicks is a starting major league outfielder. 


The Yankees have always through the years had love affairs with players most of us knew weren't that good. And I don't even think Hicks defense is all that special. All I will say is his defense is better than his offense which isn't saying much. But for some reason the Yankees love him and Boone makes things worse by batting him more often than not in the middle of the lineup. This makes no sense because he never was a run producer.    





i hope your right that frazier has more trade value cause i would love to package him and someoone else and get a decent starting pitcher




What starting pitcher are they going to able to trade for who is going to be a difference maker? Even if they trade for an ace which is highly unlikely there is no guarantee the Yankees will win the World Series. I do expect them to trade for a lower level starting pitcher but as I said before if they fall short this season it will likely be because they did not hit and not because of their pitching.  




not hit enough?  ok, i guess we can win with the rotation we got now then


i just looked this up


yanks happen to lead in runs scored by team 5.43/game , not good enough i suppose


anyway, im not hear to argue with you, i personally dont care what you believe in, but you have the  right to say whatever you want to say without being called names such as troll or whatever




If the Yankees don't hit home runs they don't score. The last 7 games in particular have shown that very clearly. And when you are in the playoffs you are facing better pitching and it is more difficult to hit home runs. This team doesn't string hits together to score runs. You can't expect 3 or 4 home runs in a playoff game. And why did the Yankees lose to the Astros in last year's ALCS? It is because they didn't hit in the games played in Houston. It wasn't because of their pitching. Their pitching was plenty good enough to win. They scored I believe 4 runs in 4 games. it was their hitting that failed them and not their pitching. And even with the old teams from 2001 on when they only won one championship it was their hitting that failed them and knocked them out most of the time and not their pitching.


Yes it would be nice to add a starting pitcher for depth because we don't have Montgomery and I wouldn't trust Gray to start a playoff game. But we should have Tanaka for the playoffs and hope he, Severino and CC will be good enough as the top 3 starters. Last year they were and it was our hitting that failed us. And the odds are if we fall short again it will be because of our hitting. Also remember because of the strength of our bullpen if our starters can pitch 5 or 6 good innings it may be enough We don't need 7 or 8 innings from our starters.


And who is this ace we are going to trade for that will win the Woirld Series for us? There are very few ace pitchers out there and most of them are already on contending teams. And even if we traded for an ace it wouldn't mean a hill of beans if we don't hit. Look at poor deGrom for the Mets. He is pitching almost to perfection and the Mets still can't win his games.


And speaking of deGrom maybe the Mets would trade him if a team grossly overpays. Would you like to see the Yankees offer them Torres, Andujar and Frazier for deGrom?  I wouldn't and I don't think even if the Yankees offered that it would be nearly enough to satisfy the Mets.They would want more. The Mets would have to be completely overwhelmed by any team to trade deGrom. That is why it is almost 100% certain he will remain with the Mets.


And looking to add another reliever might be a good idea. They are always a lot of good relievers available at the trading deadline. What is wrong with taking a strength and making it even stronger? Also Boston and especially Houston will be looking to improve their bullpens and if the Yankees can trade for somebody either of those teams wants it would be a win win for the Yankees.  


 


   



Happ is probably the most realistic. Hamels would be ok, but I prefer Happ.

1 week ago  ::  Jun 15, 2018 - 12:11AM #188
mikedorb
Posts: 727

Jun 14, 2018 -- 11:54PM, davis2 wrote:


Jun 14, 2018 -- 8:23AM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 14, 2018 -- 3:15AM, yikes wrote:


Jun 14, 2018 -- 1:14AM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:49PM, yikes wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:39PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:23PM, yikes wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:17PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:47PM, yikes wrote:


frazier started really hot last year but at the end there his numbers were not that much better than what hicks is now


matter of fact if im not mistaken it was worse




Hicks has already established who he is over a number of years. You can't compare him with Frazier who had 142 plate appearances last season and 11 so far this season. Come on be fair. If you want to be the leader of the Aaron Hicks fan club go right ahead. I can't stop you. But I don't like Hicks as a player at all and never did. I don't think he offers much to the team especially as a starting player.  I think the Yankees need to try to keep getting better even though they have a great record and I think Frazier over Hicks would be an upgrade.  





im not a huge fan of hicks but hes better than frazier or the same and if all things are equal ill take the defense


if the yanks really feel the way you do they would have brought him up already...why not?




Who do you think has more trade value? Hicks or Frazier. I think a lot of teams like Frazier's potential and Hicks would bring you little back in a trade. I don't think there are many teams that think Hicks is a starting major league outfielder. 


The Yankees have always through the years had love affairs with players most of us knew weren't that good. And I don't even think Hicks defense is all that special. All I will say is his defense is better than his offense which isn't saying much. But for some reason the Yankees love him and Boone makes things worse by batting him more often than not in the middle of the lineup. This makes no sense because he never was a run producer.    





i hope your right that frazier has more trade value cause i would love to package him and someoone else and get a decent starting pitcher




What starting pitcher are they going to able to trade for who is going to be a difference maker? Even if they trade for an ace which is highly unlikely there is no guarantee the Yankees will win the World Series. I do expect them to trade for a lower level starting pitcher but as I said before if they fall short this season it will likely be because they did not hit and not because of their pitching.  




not hit enough?  ok, i guess we can win with the rotation we got now then


i just looked this up


yanks happen to lead in runs scored by team 5.43/game , not good enough i suppose


anyway, im not hear to argue with you, i personally dont care what you believe in, but you have the  right to say whatever you want to say without being called names such as troll or whatever




If the Yankees don't hit home runs they don't score. The last 7 games in particular have shown that very clearly. And when you are in the playoffs you are facing better pitching and it is more difficult to hit home runs. This team doesn't string hits together to score runs. You can't expect 3 or 4 home runs in a playoff game. And why did the Yankees lose to the Astros in last year's ALCS? It is because they didn't hit in the games played in Houston. It wasn't because of their pitching. Their pitching was plenty good enough to win. They scored I believe 4 runs in 4 games. it was their hitting that failed them and not their pitching. And even with the old teams from 2001 on when they only won one championship it was their hitting that failed them and knocked them out most of the time and not their pitching.


Yes it would be nice to add a starting pitcher for depth because we don't have Montgomery and I wouldn't trust Gray to start a playoff game. But we should have Tanaka for the playoffs and hope he, Severino and CC will be good enough as the top 3 starters. Last year they were and it was our hitting that failed us. And the odds are if we fall short again it will be because of our hitting. Also remember because of the strength of our bullpen if our starters can pitch 5 or 6 good innings it may be enough We don't need 7 or 8 innings from our starters.


And who is this ace we are going to trade for that will win the Woirld Series for us? There are very few ace pitchers out there and most of them are already on contending teams. And even if we traded for an ace it wouldn't mean a hill of beans if we don't hit. Look at poor deGrom for the Mets. He is pitching almost to perfection and the Mets still can't win his games.


And speaking of deGrom maybe the Mets would trade him if a team grossly overpays. Would you like to see the Yankees offer them Torres, Andujar and Frazier for deGrom?  I wouldn't and I don't think even if the Yankees offered that it would be nearly enough to satisfy the Mets.They would want more. The Mets would have to be completely overwhelmed by any team to trade deGrom. That is why it is almost 100% certain he will remain with the Mets.


And looking to add another reliever might be a good idea. They are always a lot of good relievers available at the trading deadline. What is wrong with taking a strength and making it even stronger? Also Boston and especially Houston will be looking to improve their bullpens and if the Yankees can trade for somebody either of those teams wants it would be a win win for the Yankees.  


 


   



Happ is probably the most realistic. Hamels would be ok, but I prefer Happ.




I would prefer Happ as well. He would be a good pickup. But there will be other teams interested in him as well so it is possible the price might be higher than the Yankees are willing to pay. But I would make both Torres and Andujar untouchable in any trade especially since I don't believe any ace will be made available. As I said before there aren't many aces and most of them are already pitching for contending teams. I also believe the Yankees will trade for a starting pitcher but it will likely be a middle or back end starter. But Happ is appealing having pitched in the AL East and also having playoff experience. I would definitely feel more comfortable with Happ on the mound rather than Sonny Gray.  

1 week ago  ::  Jun 15, 2018 - 12:50AM #189
davis2
Posts: 14,609

Jun 15, 2018 -- 12:11AM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 14, 2018 -- 11:54PM, davis2 wrote:


Jun 14, 2018 -- 8:23AM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 14, 2018 -- 3:15AM, yikes wrote:


Jun 14, 2018 -- 1:14AM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:49PM, yikes wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:39PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:23PM, yikes wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 11:17PM, mikedorb wrote:


Jun 13, 2018 -- 10:47PM, yikes wrote:


frazier started really hot last year but at the end there his numbers were not that much better than what hicks is now


matter of fact if im not mistaken it was worse




Hicks has already established who he is over a number of years. You can't compare him with Frazier who had 142 plate appearances last season and 11 so far this season. Come on be fair. If you want to be the leader of the Aaron Hicks fan club go right ahead. I can't stop you. But I don't like Hicks as a player at all and never did. I don't think he offers much to the team especially as a starting player.  I think the Yankees need to try to keep getting better even though they have a great record and I think Frazier over Hicks would be an upgrade.  





im not a huge fan of hicks but hes better than frazier or the same and if all things are equal ill take the defense


if the yanks really feel the way you do they would have brought him up already...why not?




Who do you think has more trade value? Hicks or Frazier. I think a lot of teams like Frazier's potential and Hicks would bring you little back in a trade. I don't think there are many teams that think Hicks is a starting major league outfielder. 


The Yankees have always through the years had love affairs with players most of us knew weren't that good. And I don't even think Hicks defense is all that special. All I will say is his defense is better than his offense which isn't saying much. But for some reason the Yankees love him and Boone makes things worse by batting him more often than not in the middle of the lineup. This makes no sense because he never was a run producer.    





i hope your right that frazier has more trade value cause i would love to package him and someoone else and get a decent starting pitcher




What starting pitcher are they going to able to trade for who is going to be a difference maker? Even if they trade for an ace which is highly unlikely there is no guarantee the Yankees will win the World Series. I do expect them to trade for a lower level starting pitcher but as I said before if they fall short this season it will likely be because they did not hit and not because of their pitching.  




not hit enough?  ok, i guess we can win with the rotation we got now then


i just looked this up


yanks happen to lead in runs scored by team 5.43/game , not good enough i suppose


anyway, im not hear to argue with you, i personally dont care what you believe in, but you have the  right to say whatever you want to say without being called names such as troll or whatever




If the Yankees don't hit home runs they don't score. The last 7 games in particular have shown that very clearly. And when you are in the playoffs you are facing better pitching and it is more difficult to hit home runs. This team doesn't string hits together to score runs. You can't expect 3 or 4 home runs in a playoff game. And why did the Yankees lose to the Astros in last year's ALCS? It is because they didn't hit in the games played in Houston. It wasn't because of their pitching. Their pitching was plenty good enough to win. They scored I believe 4 runs in 4 games. it was their hitting that failed them and not their pitching. And even with the old teams from 2001 on when they only won one championship it was their hitting that failed them and knocked them out most of the time and not their pitching.


Yes it would be nice to add a starting pitcher for depth because we don't have Montgomery and I wouldn't trust Gray to start a playoff game. But we should have Tanaka for the playoffs and hope he, Severino and CC will be good enough as the top 3 starters. Last year they were and it was our hitting that failed us. And the odds are if we fall short again it will be because of our hitting. Also remember because of the strength of our bullpen if our starters can pitch 5 or 6 good innings it may be enough We don't need 7 or 8 innings from our starters.


And who is this ace we are going to trade for that will win the Woirld Series for us? There are very few ace pitchers out there and most of them are already on contending teams. And even if we traded for an ace it wouldn't mean a hill of beans if we don't hit. Look at poor deGrom for the Mets. He is pitching almost to perfection and the Mets still can't win his games.


And speaking of deGrom maybe the Mets would trade him if a team grossly overpays. Would you like to see the Yankees offer them Torres, Andujar and Frazier for deGrom?  I wouldn't and I don't think even if the Yankees offered that it would be nearly enough to satisfy the Mets.They would want more. The Mets would have to be completely overwhelmed by any team to trade deGrom. That is why it is almost 100% certain he will remain with the Mets.


And looking to add another reliever might be a good idea. They are always a lot of good relievers available at the trading deadline. What is wrong with taking a strength and making it even stronger? Also Boston and especially Houston will be looking to improve their bullpens and if the Yankees can trade for somebody either of those teams wants it would be a win win for the Yankees.  


 


   



Happ is probably the most realistic. Hamels would be ok, but I prefer Happ.




I would prefer Happ as well. He would be a good pickup. But there will be other teams interested in him as well so it is possible the price might be higher than the Yankees are willing to pay. But I would make both Torres and Andujar untouchable in any trade especially since I don't believe any ace will be made available. As I said before there aren't many aces and most of them are already pitching for contending teams. I also believe the Yankees will trade for a starting pitcher but it will likely be a middle or back end starter. But Happ is appealing having pitched in the AL East and also having playoff experience. I would definitely feel more comfortable with Happ on the mound rather than Sonny Gray.  



If they can't get Happ or Hamels reasonable, maybe they get Happ as a FA? I wouldn't be too mad if they stand pat and wait for Sheffield, Adams, and Loaisiga.   Tyson Ross may be gotten cheaply...  Guess we will have to wait and see.

1 week ago  ::  Jun 15, 2018 - 1:38AM #190
Cocopugg
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We no need no steekin Happ. We Happ pee with who we already have!

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