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13 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2018 - 11:00AM #51
Cocopugg
Posts: 6,396

Jul 11, 2018 -- 6:53AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:30PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:19PM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:15PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:07PM, Cocopugg wrote:


If the Blosox go on to win the division, JD Martinez will be the reason why. Yes, anytime a team gets a championship banner courtesy of a free agent signing, the deal was a steal.



The guy is a beast this year, but he also has had a very good track record career-wise. If his 2019 is anything like this season, he will likely opt out of his deal.


He didn't sign until February 26th; I was somewhat surprised the Yankees never seemed to show any interest in him. Much cheaper, and a shorter deal than Stanton.




The reason they didn't show interest in JD was because Cashman felt the Stanton deal made more sense, since it cleared the way for bringing Torres to the Bronx, as Castro went to Miami for Stanton. Once that deal was made, and the Yankees picked up Stanton's huge contract...no way they would've even contemplated getting JD for the kind of money he was asking.




I was aware of those reasons for the Stanton deal. But Torres natural position is shortstop, not second, and they could easily have moved Castro in another trade. Didi may end up being moved this offseason if his $ demands are too high, especially given how good Torres has been.


Was not a fan of getting Stanton somewhat due to the dollars, but mainly due to the length of his contract. It is because of contracts like his, and Ellsbury's, that the Yankees are somewhat limited in absorbing money now, to stay under the $197m threshold CBT.




I know it was great to get the MVP of the NL from the previous year, but I don't like this trade, he's not a good hitter, he's a homerun hitter but he has too many bad at bats for me.. Last night he looked completely lost, swinging at pitches he couldn't even reach.. To me he's a guess hitter and if he doesn't guess right, he strikes out..


Call the Angels Ca$hman, I have a trade idea, and I'm betting the Angels would turn it down, trade both Stanton and Judge for Trout and pay a third of Stantons contract.. How many on this board would do that deal ???




Only the idiots. You want to trade the best on base hitter the Yankees have, and the best chance at driving him in, and trade them both for 1 player, who if he gets hurt, that will be it for the team. Not to mention the fact that the Yankees would have to be mighty stupid to not only continue to pay a chunk of Stanton's contract, while also having to pay for Trout's too? Total insanity...The Yankees are close to winning it all right now, but if they made that trade, they would become a .500 team (at best maybe 10 games over) for the next 5 yrs.

13 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2018 - 11:01AM #52
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 75,273

Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:00AM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 6:53AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:30PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:19PM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:15PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:07PM, Cocopugg wrote:


If the Blosox go on to win the division, JD Martinez will be the reason why. Yes, anytime a team gets a championship banner courtesy of a free agent signing, the deal was a steal.



The guy is a beast this year, but he also has had a very good track record career-wise. If his 2019 is anything like this season, he will likely opt out of his deal.


He didn't sign until February 26th; I was somewhat surprised the Yankees never seemed to show any interest in him. Much cheaper, and a shorter deal than Stanton.




The reason they didn't show interest in JD was because Cashman felt the Stanton deal made more sense, since it cleared the way for bringing Torres to the Bronx, as Castro went to Miami for Stanton. Once that deal was made, and the Yankees picked up Stanton's huge contract...no way they would've even contemplated getting JD for the kind of money he was asking.




I was aware of those reasons for the Stanton deal. But Torres natural position is shortstop, not second, and they could easily have moved Castro in another trade. Didi may end up being moved this offseason if his $ demands are too high, especially given how good Torres has been.


Was not a fan of getting Stanton somewhat due to the dollars, but mainly due to the length of his contract. It is because of contracts like his, and Ellsbury's, that the Yankees are somewhat limited in absorbing money now, to stay under the $197m threshold CBT.




I know it was great to get the MVP of the NL from the previous year, but I don't like this trade, he's not a good hitter, he's a homerun hitter but he has too many bad at bats for me.. Last night he looked completely lost, swinging at pitches he couldn't even reach.. To me he's a guess hitter and if he doesn't guess right, he strikes out..


Call the Angels Ca$hman, I have a trade idea, and I'm betting the Angels would turn it down, trade both Stanton and Judge for Trout and pay a third of Stantons contract.. How many on this board would do that deal ???




Only the idiots. You want to trade the best on base hitter the Yankees have, and the best chance at driving him in, and trade them both for 1 player, who if he gets hurt, that will be it for the team. Not to mention the fact that the Yankees would have to be mighty stupid to not only continue to pay a chunk of Stanton's contract, while also having to pay for Trout's too? Total insanity...The Yankees are close to winning it all right now, but if they made that trade, they would become a .500 team (at best maybe 10 games over) for the next 5 yrs.




I think he was joking around.  Or maybe not ... I'm not sure.

13 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2018 - 11:05AM #53
yankoldfan
Posts: 7,122

Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:01AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:00AM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 6:53AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:30PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:19PM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:15PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:07PM, Cocopugg wrote:


If the Blosox go on to win the division, JD Martinez will be the reason why. Yes, anytime a team gets a championship banner courtesy of a free agent signing, the deal was a steal.



The guy is a beast this year, but he also has had a very good track record career-wise. If his 2019 is anything like this season, he will likely opt out of his deal.


He didn't sign until February 26th; I was somewhat surprised the Yankees never seemed to show any interest in him. Much cheaper, and a shorter deal than Stanton.




The reason they didn't show interest in JD was because Cashman felt the Stanton deal made more sense, since it cleared the way for bringing Torres to the Bronx, as Castro went to Miami for Stanton. Once that deal was made, and the Yankees picked up Stanton's huge contract...no way they would've even contemplated getting JD for the kind of money he was asking.




I was aware of those reasons for the Stanton deal. But Torres natural position is shortstop, not second, and they could easily have moved Castro in another trade. Didi may end up being moved this offseason if his $ demands are too high, especially given how good Torres has been.


Was not a fan of getting Stanton somewhat due to the dollars, but mainly due to the length of his contract. It is because of contracts like his, and Ellsbury's, that the Yankees are somewhat limited in absorbing money now, to stay under the $197m threshold CBT.




I know it was great to get the MVP of the NL from the previous year, but I don't like this trade, he's not a good hitter, he's a homerun hitter but he has too many bad at bats for me.. Last night he looked completely lost, swinging at pitches he couldn't even reach.. To me he's a guess hitter and if he doesn't guess right, he strikes out..


Call the Angels Ca$hman, I have a trade idea, and I'm betting the Angels would turn it down, trade both Stanton and Judge for Trout and pay a third of Stantons contract.. How many on this board would do that deal ???




Only the idiots. You want to trade the best on base hitter the Yankees have, and the best chance at driving him in, and trade them both for 1 player, who if he gets hurt, that will be it for the team. Not to mention the fact that the Yankees would have to be mighty stupid to not only continue to pay a chunk of Stanton's contract, while also having to pay for Trout's too? Total insanity...The Yankees are close to winning it all right now, but if they made that trade, they would become a .500 team (at best maybe 10 games over) for the next 5 yrs.




I think he was joking around.  Or maybe not ... I'm not sure.




No, I wasn't !!!! 


I would rather have one of Trout than both of Judge-Stanton... I see as a trade for Judge for Trout, Stanton isn't a plus or minus on this team, too many bat at bats.. I'd take the gamble with a better contact hitter to take his spot.. Like I said you can all get on my back but that's the way I feel...

13 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2018 - 11:07AM #54
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 75,273

Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:05AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:01AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:00AM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 6:53AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:30PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:19PM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:15PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:07PM, Cocopugg wrote:


If the Blosox go on to win the division, JD Martinez will be the reason why. Yes, anytime a team gets a championship banner courtesy of a free agent signing, the deal was a steal.



The guy is a beast this year, but he also has had a very good track record career-wise. If his 2019 is anything like this season, he will likely opt out of his deal.


He didn't sign until February 26th; I was somewhat surprised the Yankees never seemed to show any interest in him. Much cheaper, and a shorter deal than Stanton.




The reason they didn't show interest in JD was because Cashman felt the Stanton deal made more sense, since it cleared the way for bringing Torres to the Bronx, as Castro went to Miami for Stanton. Once that deal was made, and the Yankees picked up Stanton's huge contract...no way they would've even contemplated getting JD for the kind of money he was asking.




I was aware of those reasons for the Stanton deal. But Torres natural position is shortstop, not second, and they could easily have moved Castro in another trade. Didi may end up being moved this offseason if his $ demands are too high, especially given how good Torres has been.


Was not a fan of getting Stanton somewhat due to the dollars, but mainly due to the length of his contract. It is because of contracts like his, and Ellsbury's, that the Yankees are somewhat limited in absorbing money now, to stay under the $197m threshold CBT.




I know it was great to get the MVP of the NL from the previous year, but I don't like this trade, he's not a good hitter, he's a homerun hitter but he has too many bad at bats for me.. Last night he looked completely lost, swinging at pitches he couldn't even reach.. To me he's a guess hitter and if he doesn't guess right, he strikes out..


Call the Angels Ca$hman, I have a trade idea, and I'm betting the Angels would turn it down, trade both Stanton and Judge for Trout and pay a third of Stantons contract.. How many on this board would do that deal ???




Only the idiots. You want to trade the best on base hitter the Yankees have, and the best chance at driving him in, and trade them both for 1 player, who if he gets hurt, that will be it for the team. Not to mention the fact that the Yankees would have to be mighty stupid to not only continue to pay a chunk of Stanton's contract, while also having to pay for Trout's too? Total insanity...The Yankees are close to winning it all right now, but if they made that trade, they would become a .500 team (at best maybe 10 games over) for the next 5 yrs.




I think he was joking around.  Or maybe not ... I'm not sure.




No, I wasn't !!!! 


I would rather have one of Trout than both of Judge-Stanton... I see as a trade for Judge for Trout, Stanton isn't a plus or minus on this team, too many bat at bats.. I'd take the gamble with a better contact hitter to take his spot.. Like I said you can all get on my back but that's the way I feel...




I think the losing is getting to you ... I wouldn't do that deal in a million years.

13 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2018 - 11:09AM #55
yankoldfan
Posts: 7,122

Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:07AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:05AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:01AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:00AM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 6:53AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:30PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:19PM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:15PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:07PM, Cocopugg wrote:


If the Blosox go on to win the division, JD Martinez will be the reason why. Yes, anytime a team gets a championship banner courtesy of a free agent signing, the deal was a steal.



The guy is a beast this year, but he also has had a very good track record career-wise. If his 2019 is anything like this season, he will likely opt out of his deal.


He didn't sign until February 26th; I was somewhat surprised the Yankees never seemed to show any interest in him. Much cheaper, and a shorter deal than Stanton.




The reason they didn't show interest in JD was because Cashman felt the Stanton deal made more sense, since it cleared the way for bringing Torres to the Bronx, as Castro went to Miami for Stanton. Once that deal was made, and the Yankees picked up Stanton's huge contract...no way they would've even contemplated getting JD for the kind of money he was asking.




I was aware of those reasons for the Stanton deal. But Torres natural position is shortstop, not second, and they could easily have moved Castro in another trade. Didi may end up being moved this offseason if his $ demands are too high, especially given how good Torres has been.


Was not a fan of getting Stanton somewhat due to the dollars, but mainly due to the length of his contract. It is because of contracts like his, and Ellsbury's, that the Yankees are somewhat limited in absorbing money now, to stay under the $197m threshold CBT.




I know it was great to get the MVP of the NL from the previous year, but I don't like this trade, he's not a good hitter, he's a homerun hitter but he has too many bad at bats for me.. Last night he looked completely lost, swinging at pitches he couldn't even reach.. To me he's a guess hitter and if he doesn't guess right, he strikes out..


Call the Angels Ca$hman, I have a trade idea, and I'm betting the Angels would turn it down, trade both Stanton and Judge for Trout and pay a third of Stantons contract.. How many on this board would do that deal ???




Only the idiots. You want to trade the best on base hitter the Yankees have, and the best chance at driving him in, and trade them both for 1 player, who if he gets hurt, that will be it for the team. Not to mention the fact that the Yankees would have to be mighty stupid to not only continue to pay a chunk of Stanton's contract, while also having to pay for Trout's too? Total insanity...The Yankees are close to winning it all right now, but if they made that trade, they would become a .500 team (at best maybe 10 games over) for the next 5 yrs.




I think he was joking around.  Or maybe not ... I'm not sure.




No, I wasn't !!!! 


I would rather have one of Trout than both of Judge-Stanton... I see as a trade for Judge for Trout, Stanton isn't a plus or minus on this team, too many bat at bats.. I'd take the gamble with a better contact hitter to take his spot.. Like I said you can all get on my back but that's the way I feel...




I think the losing is getting to you ... I wouldn't do that deal in a million years.




First thing I'm going to say is, I bet the Angels wouldn't either ?? 2nd tell me your reason you wouldn't ???

13 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2018 - 11:11AM #56
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 75,273

Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:09AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:07AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:05AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:01AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:00AM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 6:53AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:30PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:19PM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:15PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:07PM, Cocopugg wrote:


If the Blosox go on to win the division, JD Martinez will be the reason why. Yes, anytime a team gets a championship banner courtesy of a free agent signing, the deal was a steal.



The guy is a beast this year, but he also has had a very good track record career-wise. If his 2019 is anything like this season, he will likely opt out of his deal.


He didn't sign until February 26th; I was somewhat surprised the Yankees never seemed to show any interest in him. Much cheaper, and a shorter deal than Stanton.




The reason they didn't show interest in JD was because Cashman felt the Stanton deal made more sense, since it cleared the way for bringing Torres to the Bronx, as Castro went to Miami for Stanton. Once that deal was made, and the Yankees picked up Stanton's huge contract...no way they would've even contemplated getting JD for the kind of money he was asking.




I was aware of those reasons for the Stanton deal. But Torres natural position is shortstop, not second, and they could easily have moved Castro in another trade. Didi may end up being moved this offseason if his $ demands are too high, especially given how good Torres has been.


Was not a fan of getting Stanton somewhat due to the dollars, but mainly due to the length of his contract. It is because of contracts like his, and Ellsbury's, that the Yankees are somewhat limited in absorbing money now, to stay under the $197m threshold CBT.




I know it was great to get the MVP of the NL from the previous year, but I don't like this trade, he's not a good hitter, he's a homerun hitter but he has too many bad at bats for me.. Last night he looked completely lost, swinging at pitches he couldn't even reach.. To me he's a guess hitter and if he doesn't guess right, he strikes out..


Call the Angels Ca$hman, I have a trade idea, and I'm betting the Angels would turn it down, trade both Stanton and Judge for Trout and pay a third of Stantons contract.. How many on this board would do that deal ???




Only the idiots. You want to trade the best on base hitter the Yankees have, and the best chance at driving him in, and trade them both for 1 player, who if he gets hurt, that will be it for the team. Not to mention the fact that the Yankees would have to be mighty stupid to not only continue to pay a chunk of Stanton's contract, while also having to pay for Trout's too? Total insanity...The Yankees are close to winning it all right now, but if they made that trade, they would become a .500 team (at best maybe 10 games over) for the next 5 yrs.




I think he was joking around.  Or maybe not ... I'm not sure.




No, I wasn't !!!! 


I would rather have one of Trout than both of Judge-Stanton... I see as a trade for Judge for Trout, Stanton isn't a plus or minus on this team, too many bat at bats.. I'd take the gamble with a better contact hitter to take his spot.. Like I said you can all get on my back but that's the way I feel...




I think the losing is getting to you ... I wouldn't do that deal in a million years.




First thing I'm going to say is, I bet the Angels wouldn't either ?? 2nd tell me your reason you wouldn't ???




It's simple ... Judge and Stanton are better than one Mike Trout ... you need to get a grip.

13 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2018 - 11:43AM #57
meacham
Posts: 3,675

Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:11AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:09AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:07AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:05AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:01AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:00AM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 6:53AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:30PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:19PM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:15PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:07PM, Cocopugg wrote:


If the Blosox go on to win the division, JD Martinez will be the reason why. Yes, anytime a team gets a championship banner courtesy of a free agent signing, the deal was a steal.



The guy is a beast this year, but he also has had a very good track record career-wise. If his 2019 is anything like this season, he will likely opt out of his deal.


He didn't sign until February 26th; I was somewhat surprised the Yankees never seemed to show any interest in him. Much cheaper, and a shorter deal than Stanton.




The reason they didn't show interest in JD was because Cashman felt the Stanton deal made more sense, since it cleared the way for bringing Torres to the Bronx, as Castro went to Miami for Stanton. Once that deal was made, and the Yankees picked up Stanton's huge contract...no way they would've even contemplated getting JD for the kind of money he was asking.




I was aware of those reasons for the Stanton deal. But Torres natural position is shortstop, not second, and they could easily have moved Castro in another trade. Didi may end up being moved this offseason if his $ demands are too high, especially given how good Torres has been.


Was not a fan of getting Stanton somewhat due to the dollars, but mainly due to the length of his contract. It is because of contracts like his, and Ellsbury's, that the Yankees are somewhat limited in absorbing money now, to stay under the $197m threshold CBT.




I know it was great to get the MVP of the NL from the previous year, but I don't like this trade, he's not a good hitter, he's a homerun hitter but he has too many bad at bats for me.. Last night he looked completely lost, swinging at pitches he couldn't even reach.. To me he's a guess hitter and if he doesn't guess right, he strikes out..


Call the Angels Ca$hman, I have a trade idea, and I'm betting the Angels would turn it down, trade both Stanton and Judge for Trout and pay a third of Stantons contract.. How many on this board would do that deal ???




Only the idiots. You want to trade the best on base hitter the Yankees have, and the best chance at driving him in, and trade them both for 1 player, who if he gets hurt, that will be it for the team. Not to mention the fact that the Yankees would have to be mighty stupid to not only continue to pay a chunk of Stanton's contract, while also having to pay for Trout's too? Total insanity...The Yankees are close to winning it all right now, but if they made that trade, they would become a .500 team (at best maybe 10 games over) for the next 5 yrs.




I think he was joking around.  Or maybe not ... I'm not sure.




No, I wasn't !!!! 


I would rather have one of Trout than both of Judge-Stanton... I see as a trade for Judge for Trout, Stanton isn't a plus or minus on this team, too many bat at bats.. I'd take the gamble with a better contact hitter to take his spot.. Like I said you can all get on my back but that's the way I feel...




I think the losing is getting to you ... I wouldn't do that deal in a million years.




First thing I'm going to say is, I bet the Angels wouldn't either ?? 2nd tell me your reason you wouldn't ???




It's simple ... Judge and Stanton are better than one Mike Trout ... you need to get a grip.




Right now I can just about guarantee the Yanks would say no, and that's because Trout's contract costs about 12 million more against the luxury tax rate than Stanton's.    You also lose Judge, who's getting the league minimum, and who replaces him that can produce like that for $550k a year?


If this was the off-season, and the luxury tax rate was officially reset already, then it's at least possible.   The team that gets the best player usually wins a trade, and Trout is the best in the game.   Personally I think Judge is the next Captain and they're never going to remove the Judge's Chambers from the Stadium, so it will never happen.    I'm already too attached, I wouldn't trade Judge for anyone.   You want to trade them Stanton and the entire farm for Trout, fine, but not Judge.

13 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2018 - 11:45AM #58
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 75,273

Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:43AM, meacham wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:11AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:09AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:07AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:05AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:01AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:00AM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 6:53AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:30PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:19PM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:15PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:07PM, Cocopugg wrote:


If the Blosox go on to win the division, JD Martinez will be the reason why. Yes, anytime a team gets a championship banner courtesy of a free agent signing, the deal was a steal.



The guy is a beast this year, but he also has had a very good track record career-wise. If his 2019 is anything like this season, he will likely opt out of his deal.


He didn't sign until February 26th; I was somewhat surprised the Yankees never seemed to show any interest in him. Much cheaper, and a shorter deal than Stanton.




The reason they didn't show interest in JD was because Cashman felt the Stanton deal made more sense, since it cleared the way for bringing Torres to the Bronx, as Castro went to Miami for Stanton. Once that deal was made, and the Yankees picked up Stanton's huge contract...no way they would've even contemplated getting JD for the kind of money he was asking.




I was aware of those reasons for the Stanton deal. But Torres natural position is shortstop, not second, and they could easily have moved Castro in another trade. Didi may end up being moved this offseason if his $ demands are too high, especially given how good Torres has been.


Was not a fan of getting Stanton somewhat due to the dollars, but mainly due to the length of his contract. It is because of contracts like his, and Ellsbury's, that the Yankees are somewhat limited in absorbing money now, to stay under the $197m threshold CBT.




I know it was great to get the MVP of the NL from the previous year, but I don't like this trade, he's not a good hitter, he's a homerun hitter but he has too many bad at bats for me.. Last night he looked completely lost, swinging at pitches he couldn't even reach.. To me he's a guess hitter and if he doesn't guess right, he strikes out..


Call the Angels Ca$hman, I have a trade idea, and I'm betting the Angels would turn it down, trade both Stanton and Judge for Trout and pay a third of Stantons contract.. How many on this board would do that deal ???




Only the idiots. You want to trade the best on base hitter the Yankees have, and the best chance at driving him in, and trade them both for 1 player, who if he gets hurt, that will be it for the team. Not to mention the fact that the Yankees would have to be mighty stupid to not only continue to pay a chunk of Stanton's contract, while also having to pay for Trout's too? Total insanity...The Yankees are close to winning it all right now, but if they made that trade, they would become a .500 team (at best maybe 10 games over) for the next 5 yrs.




I think he was joking around.  Or maybe not ... I'm not sure.




No, I wasn't !!!! 


I would rather have one of Trout than both of Judge-Stanton... I see as a trade for Judge for Trout, Stanton isn't a plus or minus on this team, too many bat at bats.. I'd take the gamble with a better contact hitter to take his spot.. Like I said you can all get on my back but that's the way I feel...




I think the losing is getting to you ... I wouldn't do that deal in a million years.




First thing I'm going to say is, I bet the Angels wouldn't either ?? 2nd tell me your reason you wouldn't ???




It's simple ... Judge and Stanton are better than one Mike Trout ... you need to get a grip.




Right now I can just about guarantee the Yanks would say no, and that's because Trout's contract costs about 12 million more against the luxury tax rate than Stanton's.    You also lose Judge, who's getting the league minimum, and who replaces him that can produce like that for $550k a year?


If this was the off-season, and the luxury tax rate was officially reset already, then it's at least possible.   The team that gets the best player usually wins a trade, and Trout is the best in the game.   Personally I think Judge is the next Captain and they're never going to remove the Judge's Chambers from the Stadium, so it will never happen.    I'm already too attached, I wouldn't trade Judge for anyone.   You want to trade them Stanton and the entire farm for Trout, fine, but not Judge.




I agree with you 100% meacham, except not quite the entire farm.

13 months ago  ::  Jul 11, 2018 - 11:57AM #59
meacham
Posts: 3,675

Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:45AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:43AM, meacham wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:11AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:09AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:07AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:05AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:01AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 11:00AM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 11, 2018 -- 6:53AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:30PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:19PM, Cocopugg wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:15PM, jimwest wrote:


Jul 10, 2018 -- 11:07PM, Cocopugg wrote:


If the Blosox go on to win the division, JD Martinez will be the reason why. Yes, anytime a team gets a championship banner courtesy of a free agent signing, the deal was a steal.



The guy is a beast this year, but he also has had a very good track record career-wise. If his 2019 is anything like this season, he will likely opt out of his deal.


He didn't sign until February 26th; I was somewhat surprised the Yankees never seemed to show any interest in him. Much cheaper, and a shorter deal than Stanton.




The reason they didn't show interest in JD was because Cashman felt the Stanton deal made more sense, since it cleared the way for bringing Torres to the Bronx, as Castro went to Miami for Stanton. Once that deal was made, and the Yankees picked up Stanton's huge contract...no way they would've even contemplated getting JD for the kind of money he was asking.




I was aware of those reasons for the Stanton deal. But Torres natural position is shortstop, not second, and they could easily have moved Castro in another trade. Didi may end up being moved this offseason if his $ demands are too high, especially given how good Torres has been.


Was not a fan of getting Stanton somewhat due to the dollars, but mainly due to the length of his contract. It is because of contracts like his, and Ellsbury's, that the Yankees are somewhat limited in absorbing money now, to stay under the $197m threshold CBT.




I know it was great to get the MVP of the NL from the previous year, but I don't like this trade, he's not a good hitter, he's a homerun hitter but he has too many bad at bats for me.. Last night he looked completely lost, swinging at pitches he couldn't even reach.. To me he's a guess hitter and if he doesn't guess right, he strikes out..


Call the Angels Ca$hman, I have a trade idea, and I'm betting the Angels would turn it down, trade both Stanton and Judge for Trout and pay a third of Stantons contract.. How many on this board would do that deal ???




Only the idiots. You want to trade the best on base hitter the Yankees have, and the best chance at driving him in, and trade them both for 1 player, who if he gets hurt, that will be it for the team. Not to mention the fact that the Yankees would have to be mighty stupid to not only continue to pay a chunk of Stanton's contract, while also having to pay for Trout's too? Total insanity...The Yankees are close to winning it all right now, but if they made that trade, they would become a .500 team (at best maybe 10 games over) for the next 5 yrs.




I think he was joking around.  Or maybe not ... I'm not sure.




No, I wasn't !!!! 


I would rather have one of Trout than both of Judge-Stanton... I see as a trade for Judge for Trout, Stanton isn't a plus or minus on this team, too many bat at bats.. I'd take the gamble with a better contact hitter to take his spot.. Like I said you can all get on my back but that's the way I feel...




I think the losing is getting to you ... I wouldn't do that deal in a million years.




First thing I'm going to say is, I bet the Angels wouldn't either ?? 2nd tell me your reason you wouldn't ???




It's simple ... Judge and Stanton are better than one Mike Trout ... you need to get a grip.




Right now I can just about guarantee the Yanks would say no, and that's because Trout's contract costs about 12 million more against the luxury tax rate than Stanton's.    You also lose Judge, who's getting the league minimum, and who replaces him that can produce like that for $550k a year?


If this was the off-season, and the luxury tax rate was officially reset already, then it's at least possible.   The team that gets the best player usually wins a trade, and Trout is the best in the game.   Personally I think Judge is the next Captain and they're never going to remove the Judge's Chambers from the Stadium, so it will never happen.    I'm already too attached, I wouldn't trade Judge for anyone.   You want to trade them Stanton and the entire farm for Trout, fine, but not Judge.




I agree with you 100% meacham, except not quite the entire farm.




Yeah realistically maybe something like Stanton, maybe add Hicks to play CF, and then let them choose any 3 prospects they want from the system, don't even know if that's enough.   But no Judge.   Takes too much of the team's soul away.

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I was aware of those reasons for the Stanton deal. But Torres natural position is shortstop, not second, and they could easily have moved Castro in another trade. Didi may end up being moved this offseason if his $ demands are too high, especially given how good Torres has been.


Was not a fan of getting Stanton somewhat due to the dollars, but mainly due to the length of his contract. It is because of contracts like his, and Ellsbury's, that the Yankees are somewhat limited in absorbing money now, to stay under the $197m threshold CBT.


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He can demand all he wants, but his salary will be determined for the next 2 years by arbitration.

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