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2 weeks ago  ::  Aug 07, 2018 - 11:43PM #1
TheManMike
Posts: 2,572
Hello my fellow Yankee fans. Cool

Love my team through thick and thin and will forever bleed the famous pinstripes. I would be lying, however, if I said I was ecstatically happy with the offense thus far because I'm not. I'm well aware with the changes to the lineup since last season. Adding a power slugger like Stanton, though the Yankees really didn't need him, in addition to handing the keys to 2 starting spots to 2 sensational rookies in all-star phenom Torres and Andujar. I am also aware of the fact that the Yankees projected deadly lineup still hasn't been in tact consistently this year due to injuries to key players like Bird (active now), Sanchez and now Judge, which further sets back the lineup's true capabilities and potential. Still, with the depth that the Yankees have, they should be able to score enough runs to put the team in a winning situation.

With that said, I'm really disappointed that the Yankee lineups over the past couple to few years (this season included) is so one-dimensional. It feels as though if they don't swing for the fences all the time, it'll be a rarity for them to score runs. Maybe only 1-2 guys in the lineup that can steal bases though not consistently as they should, barely get a hit that isn't a homerun in clutch situations, rarily plays small ball, etc. Though I give Cashman and Co. credit for most of what they've achieved with this team so far, I'm also placing blame where it should be. Rather than searching for guys that can hit for high average or get on base, they bring over all-or-nothing guys that strikes out too much. I look at teams like the Red Sox, Astros and Indians and the way that they manufacture runs. They hit it from ALL cylinders, not just relying on the long ball all the time. Perhaps, the Yankees could start taking a page out of those teams' books when it comes to all around hitting. Or perhaps revisit the Dynasty Yankees Era and see how the 1998 Yankees got the job done. Just my opinion.
2 weeks ago  ::  Aug 07, 2018 - 11:55PM #2
luvdayanks
Posts: 24,400

Aug 7, 2018 -- 11:43PM, TheManMike wrote:

Hello my fellow Yankee fans. Cool

Love my team through thick and thin and will forever bleed the famous pinstripes. I would be lying, however, if I said I was ecstatically happy with the offense thus far because I'm not. I'm well aware with the changes to the lineup since last season. Adding a power slugger like Stanton, though the Yankees really didn't need him, in addition to handing the keys to 2 starting spots to 2 sensational rookies in all-star phenom Torres and Andujar. I am also aware of the fact that the Yankees projected deadly lineup still hasn't been in tact consistently this year due to injuries to key players like Bird (active now), Sanchez and now Judge, which further sets back the lineup's true capabilities and potential. Still, with the depth that the Yankees have, they should be able to score enough runs to put the team in a winning situation.

With that said, I'm really disappointed that the Yankee lineups over the past couple to few years (this season included) is so one-dimensional. It feels as though if they don't swing for the fences all the time, it'll be a rarity for them to score runs. Maybe only 1-2 guys in the lineup that can steal bases though not consistently as they should, barely get a hit that isn't a homerun in clutch situations, rarily plays small ball, etc. Though I give Cashman and Co. credit for most of what they've achieved with this team so far, I'm also placing blame where it should be. Rather than searching for guys that can hit for high average or get on base, they bring over all-or-nothing guys that strikes out too much. I look at teams like the Red Sox, Astros and Indians and the way that they manufacture runs. They hit it from ALL cylinders, not just relying on the long ball all the time. Perhaps, the Yankees could start taking a page out of those teams' books when it comes to all around hitting. Or perhaps revisit the Dynasty Yankees Era and see how the 1998 Yankees got the job done. Just my opinion.




The lineup was very circular especially  with Andujar and Torres batting 8th and 9th before Judge and Sanchez got injured. Since then  the lineup has been shortened and affected  everyone . 

2 weeks ago  ::  Aug 08, 2018 - 12:34AM #3
yanksbb
Posts: 286


Hello my fellow Yankee fans. Cool

Love my team through thick and thin and will forever bleed the famous pinstripes. I would be lying, however, if I said I was ecstatically happy with the offense thus far because I'm not. I'm well aware with the changes to the lineup since last season. Adding a power slugger like Stanton, though the Yankees really didn't need him, in addition to handing the keys to 2 starting spots to 2 sensational rookies in all-star phenom Torres and Andujar. I am also aware of the fact that the Yankees projected deadly lineup still hasn't been in tact consistently this year due to injuries to key players like Bird (active now), Sanchez and now Judge, which further sets back the lineup's true capabilities and potential. Still, with the depth that the Yankees have, they should be able to score enough runs to put the team in a winning situation.

With that said, I'm really disappointed that the Yankee lineups over the past couple to few years (this season included) is so one-dimensional. It feels as though if they don't swing for the fences all the time, it'll be a rarity for them to score runs. Maybe only 1-2 guys in the lineup that can steal bases though not consistently as they should, barely get a hit that isn't a homerun in clutch situations, rarily plays small ball, etc. Though I give Cashman and Co. credit for most of what they've achieved with this team so far, I'm also placing blame where it should be. Rather than searching for guys that can hit for high average or get on base, they bring over all-or-nothing guys that strikes out too much. I look at teams like the Red Sox, Astros and Indians and the way that they manufacture runs. They hit it from ALL cylinders, not just relying on the long ball all the time. Perhaps, the Yankees could start taking a page out of those teams' books when it comes to all around hitting. Or perhaps revisit the Dynasty Yankees Era and see how the 1998 Yankees got the job done. Just my opinion.




The lineup was very circular especially  with Andujar and Torres batting 8th and 9th before Judge and Sanchez got injured. Since then  the lineup has been shortened and affected  everyone . 





Been a fan since Mickey's early days. Will always be. But jeez, wouldnt you love to have an aggressive team ?


An athletic, small ball capable, in your face aggressive team that could beat you with a thousand small cuts, or a few clutch homers.


The pitching has been adequate.


This decade has been all about longball.


They've usually been eliminated when they couldn't homer off top flite pitchers.


Think of all the clutch strikeouts as they swing all-or-nothing for the fences (especially postseason).


And we're still going down that same road.


2 weeks ago  ::  Aug 08, 2018 - 1:29AM #4
zenzenali
Posts: 366

Aug 7, 2018 -- 11:55PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 7, 2018 -- 11:43PM, TheManMike wrote:

Hello my fellow Yankee fans. Cool

Love my team through thick and thin and will forever bleed the famous pinstripes. I would be lying, however, if I said I was ecstatically happy with the offense thus far because I'm not. I'm well aware with the changes to the lineup since last season. Adding a power slugger like Stanton, though the Yankees really didn't need him, in addition to handing the keys to 2 starting spots to 2 sensational rookies in all-star phenom Torres and Andujar. I am also aware of the fact that the Yankees projected deadly lineup still hasn't been in tact consistently this year due to injuries to key players like Bird (active now), Sanchez and now Judge, which further sets back the lineup's true capabilities and potential. Still, with the depth that the Yankees have, they should be able to score enough runs to put the team in a winning situation.

With that said, I'm really disappointed that the Yankee lineups over the past couple to few years (this season included) is so one-dimensional. It feels as though if they don't swing for the fences all the time, it'll be a rarity for them to score runs. Maybe only 1-2 guys in the lineup that can steal bases though not consistently as they should, barely get a hit that isn't a homerun in clutch situations, rarily plays small ball, etc. Though I give Cashman and Co. credit for most of what they've achieved with this team so far, I'm also placing blame where it should be. Rather than searching for guys that can hit for high average or get on base, they bring over all-or-nothing guys that strikes out too much. I look at teams like the Red Sox, Astros and Indians and the way that they manufacture runs. They hit it from ALL cylinders, not just relying on the long ball all the time. Perhaps, the Yankees could start taking a page out of those teams' books when it comes to all around hitting. Or perhaps revisit the Dynasty Yankees Era and see how the 1998 Yankees got the job done. Just my opinion.




The lineup was very circular especially  with Andujar and Torres batting 8th and 9th before Judge and Sanchez got injured. Since then  the lineup has been shortened and affected  everyone . 




Even when those guys come back you can't bat Andujar and Torres 8th and 9th. You cut their at bats and lessen their chance to produce. Didi needs to move out of the 3 hole, which is generally reserved for the best hitter on the team, and he is far from that. He's career .265 undisciplined hitter who is prone to popping up. He needs to hit 7th at best. And Bird should be 8 or 9 until he (if, I should say) ever finds himself. And I sincerely hope Boone will not continue to put Judge in the 2 hole where he is underperforming compared to last year.  Look at the Red Sox, their big gun JD has been hitting 4th lately and has over 93 RBI. Judge hitting 2nd -- had a paltry 61 RBI (for him) in late July -- is worst thing since unsliced bread.  **** lineups have **** results and the last forty games have been very disappointing. Learn from your mistakes, Boonie! 

1 week ago  ::  Aug 08, 2018 - 6:46AM #5
yankoldfan
Posts: 4,185

Aug 8, 2018 -- 1:29AM, zenzenali wrote:


Aug 7, 2018 -- 11:55PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 7, 2018 -- 11:43PM, TheManMike wrote:

Hello my fellow Yankee fans. Cool

Love my team through thick and thin and will forever bleed the famous pinstripes. I would be lying, however, if I said I was ecstatically happy with the offense thus far because I'm not. I'm well aware with the changes to the lineup since last season. Adding a power slugger like Stanton, though the Yankees really didn't need him, in addition to handing the keys to 2 starting spots to 2 sensational rookies in all-star phenom Torres and Andujar. I am also aware of the fact that the Yankees projected deadly lineup still hasn't been in tact consistently this year due to injuries to key players like Bird (active now), Sanchez and now Judge, which further sets back the lineup's true capabilities and potential. Still, with the depth that the Yankees have, they should be able to score enough runs to put the team in a winning situation.

With that said, I'm really disappointed that the Yankee lineups over the past couple to few years (this season included) is so one-dimensional. It feels as though if they don't swing for the fences all the time, it'll be a rarity for them to score runs. Maybe only 1-2 guys in the lineup that can steal bases though not consistently as they should, barely get a hit that isn't a homerun in clutch situations, rarily plays small ball, etc. Though I give Cashman and Co. credit for most of what they've achieved with this team so far, I'm also placing blame where it should be. Rather than searching for guys that can hit for high average or get on base, they bring over all-or-nothing guys that strikes out too much. I look at teams like the Red Sox, Astros and Indians and the way that they manufacture runs. They hit it from ALL cylinders, not just relying on the long ball all the time. Perhaps, the Yankees could start taking a page out of those teams' books when it comes to all around hitting. Or perhaps revisit the Dynasty Yankees Era and see how the 1998 Yankees got the job done. Just my opinion.




The lineup was very circular especially  with Andujar and Torres batting 8th and 9th before Judge and Sanchez got injured. Since then  the lineup has been shortened and affected  everyone . 




Even when those guys come back you can't bat Andujar and Torres 8th and 9th. You cut their at bats and lessen their chance to produce. Didi needs to move out of the 3 hole, which is generally reserved for the best hitter on the team, and he is far from that. He's career .265 undisciplined hitter who is prone to popping up. He needs to hit 7th at best. And Bird should be 8 or 9 until he (if, I should say) ever finds himself. And I sincerely hope Boone will not continue to put Judge in the 2 hole where he is underperforming compared to last year.  Look at the Red Sox, their big gun JD has been hitting 4th lately and has over 93 RBI. Judge hitting 2nd -- had a paltry 61 RBI (for him) in late July -- is worst thing since unsliced bread.  **** lineups have **** results and the last forty games have been very disappointing. Learn from your mistakes, Boonie! 




Andujar is the one that's looking like a top three batting order hitter... I'm yet to take in the idea of Judge batting second, although I see more teams using their best hitter to hit in the #2 hole ?? The only thing different about Judge and lets say Trout and others, he strikes out too much for me ... 


I actually see the strikeouts as a major problem with this team, we just do it too much... But you take the two weak hitters that are now filling in for Judge and Sanchez out of this lineup and add put Judge/Sanchez back in it and it lengthens it out by a bunch.. I'm just worried about Sanchez getting back to the kind of numbers he had last year, and yes, I'm a little worried about Judge's wrist, sometimes those kind of injuries take longer than one likes ??

1 week ago  ::  Aug 08, 2018 - 5:44PM #6
davis2
Posts: 14,884

Aug 8, 2018 -- 6:46AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Aug 8, 2018 -- 1:29AM, zenzenali wrote:


Aug 7, 2018 -- 11:55PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 7, 2018 -- 11:43PM, TheManMike wrote:

Hello my fellow Yankee fans. Cool

Love my team through thick and thin and will forever bleed the famous pinstripes. I would be lying, however, if I said I was ecstatically happy with the offense thus far because I'm not. I'm well aware with the changes to the lineup since last season. Adding a power slugger like Stanton, though the Yankees really didn't need him, in addition to handing the keys to 2 starting spots to 2 sensational rookies in all-star phenom Torres and Andujar. I am also aware of the fact that the Yankees projected deadly lineup still hasn't been in tact consistently this year due to injuries to key players like Bird (active now), Sanchez and now Judge, which further sets back the lineup's true capabilities and potential. Still, with the depth that the Yankees have, they should be able to score enough runs to put the team in a winning situation.

With that said, I'm really disappointed that the Yankee lineups over the past couple to few years (this season included) is so one-dimensional. It feels as though if they don't swing for the fences all the time, it'll be a rarity for them to score runs. Maybe only 1-2 guys in the lineup that can steal bases though not consistently as they should, barely get a hit that isn't a homerun in clutch situations, rarily plays small ball, etc. Though I give Cashman and Co. credit for most of what they've achieved with this team so far, I'm also placing blame where it should be. Rather than searching for guys that can hit for high average or get on base, they bring over all-or-nothing guys that strikes out too much. I look at teams like the Red Sox, Astros and Indians and the way that they manufacture runs. They hit it from ALL cylinders, not just relying on the long ball all the time. Perhaps, the Yankees could start taking a page out of those teams' books when it comes to all around hitting. Or perhaps revisit the Dynasty Yankees Era and see how the 1998 Yankees got the job done. Just my opinion.




The lineup was very circular especially  with Andujar and Torres batting 8th and 9th before Judge and Sanchez got injured. Since then  the lineup has been shortened and affected  everyone . 




Even when those guys come back you can't bat Andujar and Torres 8th and 9th. You cut their at bats and lessen their chance to produce. Didi needs to move out of the 3 hole, which is generally reserved for the best hitter on the team, and he is far from that. He's career .265 undisciplined hitter who is prone to popping up. He needs to hit 7th at best. And Bird should be 8 or 9 until he (if, I should say) ever finds himself. And I sincerely hope Boone will not continue to put Judge in the 2 hole where he is underperforming compared to last year.  Look at the Red Sox, their big gun JD has been hitting 4th lately and has over 93 RBI. Judge hitting 2nd -- had a paltry 61 RBI (for him) in late July -- is worst thing since unsliced bread.  **** lineups have **** results and the last forty games have been very disappointing. Learn from your mistakes, Boonie! 




Andujar is the one that's looking like a top three batting order hitter... I'm yet to take in the idea of Judge batting second, although I see more teams using their best hitter to hit in the #2 hole ?? The only thing different about Judge and lets say Trout and others, he strikes out too much for me ... 


I actually see the strikeouts as a major problem with this team, we just do it too much... But you take the two weak hitters that are now filling in for Judge and Sanchez out of this lineup and add put Judge/Sanchez back in it and it lengthens it out by a bunch.. I'm just worried about Sanchez getting back to the kind of numbers he had last year, and yes, I'm a little worried about Judge's wrist, sometimes those kind of injuries take longer than one likes ??



If Andujar was more selective, he could be a #3 hitter. The whole team really needs to be more selective, this isn't the minors where the pitchers lack command. Pitchers beat us low and away because the hitters will swing at that crap every time.

1 week ago  ::  Aug 08, 2018 - 6:17PM #7
thestraw44
Posts: 468

Average is a big concern for me, not gonna lie ( even tho I always talk about pitching), and relying on 5e long ball is not a sound offensive approach to the PS. There will be a million arguments against this but getting that one extra hit per game is huge but the yanks seem to SO instead. Meaning change your aggressive approach and just make contact. When u put the ball in play, crazy things happen but when u K, you’re guaranteed zilch! Hitting for average may be overrated point for some but I have seen this script hundreds of times and it rarely ends well. Over the weekend, I saw a team that was working pitchers and making contact and rarely striking out. They were hitting for average as well as homers. Too bad that wasnt us but it easily can be. The problem is the FO philosophy and being in love with that right field porch. Why do think they gave Bird so many chances, big lefty bat. Homerun, homerun, homerun, great for the casual fan but some of us appreciate a lot more of the game. Hal caters to the lowest common denominator of fan base it seems. Fans like those martini sippin corporate ****uckers who are too busy looking at their phones to watch the game from their great view Undecided or maybe the youngings first starting out pressuring their Dad to take him to the ballgame to see Judge MASH one. That’s great and all, but where does that leave the fans that want more?? There’s rarely anything else offensively with this team. Very little bunting, stealing, hit and runs.....I tell ya what I do tho, I focus on the defense and pitching (types of pitches, movement, strategy liket he shift and bringing the infield in on certain plays) and guy’s flashing the leather (still gets me goin but even that has been few and far between lately). Sorry to go off and makes this rantful but I had to get off my chest. Love these underporming bastids but not fond of management right now and their lazy approach to the game. It’s quite boring and they can’t be blind to it. Cool

1 week ago  ::  Aug 08, 2018 - 6:38PM #8
yankoldfan
Posts: 4,185

Aug 8, 2018 -- 5:44PM, davis2 wrote:


Aug 8, 2018 -- 6:46AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Aug 8, 2018 -- 1:29AM, zenzenali wrote:


Aug 7, 2018 -- 11:55PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Aug 7, 2018 -- 11:43PM, TheManMike wrote:

Hello my fellow Yankee fans. Cool

Love my team through thick and thin and will forever bleed the famous pinstripes. I would be lying, however, if I said I was ecstatically happy with the offense thus far because I'm not. I'm well aware with the changes to the lineup since last season. Adding a power slugger like Stanton, though the Yankees really didn't need him, in addition to handing the keys to 2 starting spots to 2 sensational rookies in all-star phenom Torres and Andujar. I am also aware of the fact that the Yankees projected deadly lineup still hasn't been in tact consistently this year due to injuries to key players like Bird (active now), Sanchez and now Judge, which further sets back the lineup's true capabilities and potential. Still, with the depth that the Yankees have, they should be able to score enough runs to put the team in a winning situation.

With that said, I'm really disappointed that the Yankee lineups over the past couple to few years (this season included) is so one-dimensional. It feels as though if they don't swing for the fences all the time, it'll be a rarity for them to score runs. Maybe only 1-2 guys in the lineup that can steal bases though not consistently as they should, barely get a hit that isn't a homerun in clutch situations, rarily plays small ball, etc. Though I give Cashman and Co. credit for most of what they've achieved with this team so far, I'm also placing blame where it should be. Rather than searching for guys that can hit for high average or get on base, they bring over all-or-nothing guys that strikes out too much. I look at teams like the Red Sox, Astros and Indians and the way that they manufacture runs. They hit it from ALL cylinders, not just relying on the long ball all the time. Perhaps, the Yankees could start taking a page out of those teams' books when it comes to all around hitting. Or perhaps revisit the Dynasty Yankees Era and see how the 1998 Yankees got the job done. Just my opinion.




The lineup was very circular especially  with Andujar and Torres batting 8th and 9th before Judge and Sanchez got injured. Since then  the lineup has been shortened and affected  everyone . 




Even when those guys come back you can't bat Andujar and Torres 8th and 9th. You cut their at bats and lessen their chance to produce. Didi needs to move out of the 3 hole, which is generally reserved for the best hitter on the team, and he is far from that. He's career .265 undisciplined hitter who is prone to popping up. He needs to hit 7th at best. And Bird should be 8 or 9 until he (if, I should say) ever finds himself. And I sincerely hope Boone will not continue to put Judge in the 2 hole where he is underperforming compared to last year.  Look at the Red Sox, their big gun JD has been hitting 4th lately and has over 93 RBI. Judge hitting 2nd -- had a paltry 61 RBI (for him) in late July -- is worst thing since unsliced bread.  **** lineups have **** results and the last forty games have been very disappointing. Learn from your mistakes, Boonie! 




Andujar is the one that's looking like a top three batting order hitter... I'm yet to take in the idea of Judge batting second, although I see more teams using their best hitter to hit in the #2 hole ?? The only thing different about Judge and lets say Trout and others, he strikes out too much for me ... 


I actually see the strikeouts as a major problem with this team, we just do it too much... But you take the two weak hitters that are now filling in for Judge and Sanchez out of this lineup and add put Judge/Sanchez back in it and it lengthens it out by a bunch.. I'm just worried about Sanchez getting back to the kind of numbers he had last year, and yes, I'm a little worried about Judge's wrist, sometimes those kind of injuries take longer than one likes ??



If Andujar was more selective, he could be a #3 hitter. The whole team really needs to be more selective, this isn't the minors where the pitchers lack command. Pitchers beat us low and away because the hitters will swing at that crap every time.




Selective, hell he's one of the best hitters when it comes to being selective, he doesn't strike out near as much as Judge or Stanton, I think he's the best average hitter on the team, although Stanton has been raising his average in the hot spett he's been in, but I still think Andujar is the best pure hitter on the team right now..

1 week ago  ::  Aug 08, 2018 - 6:53PM #9
RobS44
Posts: 5,153

There is no question that they sorely miss Judge, if only to get Shane Robinson out of the lineup.  But honestly, it is hared to see 2018 Sanchez as an upgrade over Romine and Hiishioka.  2017 Sanchez, of course.  But this year's version with the sub .200 BA and poor defense?  Not so much.

1 week ago  ::  Aug 08, 2018 - 7:37PM #10
MrYankeeXMasPoo
Posts: 44

I agree. But even though we can point to some key injuries that have thrown a wrench in the lineup, we also had Bird, Sanchez & Judge together in the lineup for a while - 2 of the 3 were always slumping. Throw in a lost Stanton at the plate for the first half and it's not really a surprise the team has underperformed.


Or really, I should say the offense has underperformed, not the "team". The pitching we thought would be inconsistent, and it is. Someone up in the thread mentioned the pitching has been adequate. Adequate for whom? A hovering .500 team, maybe. Not a team that is expected to make the playoffs and get to the world series - or at least back to the ALCS like last season.


They over achieved last season. Now it's the opposite. Other than Gardner maybe not being brought back for next season, I think this is what we're going to get. And if they're all up there trying to swing for the fences, that's where the hitting coach and manager have to step in. For Bird, his chances at impressing this organization are going to run out at some point. And Sanchez will need to get it together ASAP because he's no longer untouchable, IMO, based on this year's performance and lack of effort.

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