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1 year ago  ::  Aug 09, 2018 - 4:11PM #11
yikes
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you know if you dont count any of birds bad at bats, he might hit 500


1 year ago  ::  Aug 09, 2018 - 4:40PM #12
yankoldfan
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I personally can't figure Bird out ?? Ca$hman and others in the know have said that Bird was the best pure hitter out of all the players that were in the group of Judge, Sanchez, Andujar, that group ?? I usually think people that are the insiders in the Yankees coaches or who ever should know, but so far he hasn't proven them right.. If I remember he played in the fall league a couple years back and was the MVP hitter in that league, but I also heard that was a very friendly hitting league ???


I don't like his demeanor, but one can't always go by how a player acts, he just seems to take it like he hasn't a care in the world ?? I do think he needs to play and see if he can come around, if he stays healthy the rest of this year, it should give Ca$hman/Yankees an idea what to do with him going forward ??

1 year ago  ::  Aug 09, 2018 - 4:57PM #13
thestraw44
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Aug 9, 2018 -- 4:40PM, yankoldfan wrote:


I personally can't figure Bird out ?? Ca$hman and others in the know have said that Bird was the best pure hitter out of all the players that were in the group of Judge, Sanchez, Andujar, that group ?? I usually think people that are the insiders in the Yankees coaches or who ever should know, but so far he hasn't proven them right.. If I remember he played in the fall league a couple years back and was the MVP hitter in that league, but I also heard that was a very friendly hitting league ???


I don't like his demeanor, but one can't always go by how a player acts, he just seems to take it like he hasn't a care in the world ?? I do think he needs to play and see if he can come around, if he stays healthy the rest of this year, it should give Ca$hman/Yankees an idea what to do with him going forward ??




Hey Yank, youre not the only one whos mentioned his demeanor. I think there was a poster on here that said ‘he looks like he doesn’t care or disinterested in baseball’ ( or something similar) and he got lambasted for it. Even tho I could see his point, not sure I would take it that far but his body language makes it seem so. He needs to smile more also like hes glad to be in the big show. Right now to me, he has a lot to prove, he seems a bit lazy (like Sanchez) and that may or may not be the reason he’s not progressing fast enough. Who really knows what’s in this guy’s head but it should be full of gratefulness towards owners for believing in him and for fans not giving him the Sonny Gray treatment. My two pennies!

1 year ago  ::  Aug 09, 2018 - 5:02PM #14
yankoldfan
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Aug 9, 2018 -- 4:57PM, thestraw44 wrote:


Aug 9, 2018 -- 4:40PM, yankoldfan wrote:


I personally can't figure Bird out ?? Ca$hman and others in the know have said that Bird was the best pure hitter out of all the players that were in the group of Judge, Sanchez, Andujar, that group ?? I usually think people that are the insiders in the Yankees coaches or who ever should know, but so far he hasn't proven them right.. If I remember he played in the fall league a couple years back and was the MVP hitter in that league, but I also heard that was a very friendly hitting league ???


I don't like his demeanor, but one can't always go by how a player acts, he just seems to take it like he hasn't a care in the world ?? I do think he needs to play and see if he can come around, if he stays healthy the rest of this year, it should give Ca$hman/Yankees an idea what to do with him going forward ??




Hey Yank, youre not the only one whos mentioned his demeanor. I think there was a poster on here that said ‘he looks like he doesn’t care or disinterested in baseball’ ( or something similar) and he got lambasted for it. Even tho I could see his point, not sure I would take it that far but his body language makes it seem so. He needs to smile more also like hes glad to be in the big show. Right now to me, he has a lot to prove, he seems a bit lazy (like Sanchez) and that may or may not be the reason he’s not progressing fast enough. Who really knows what’s in this guy’s head but it should be full of gratefulness towards owners for believing in him and for fans not giving him the Sonny Gray treatment. My two pennies!




There are players that show different emotions, he might be one of those ?? Maybe he's feeling the pressure and is trying to hide it, who knows ?? I'd like to see him act like he's having a little fun, after all, it should be fun, only a few given ever get to where he's at...

1 year ago  ::  Aug 09, 2018 - 5:18PM #15
jimwest
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Aug 9, 2018 -- 4:57PM, thestraw44 wrote:


Aug 9, 2018 -- 4:40PM, yankoldfan wrote:


I personally can't figure Bird out ?? Ca$hman and others in the know have said that Bird was the best pure hitter out of all the players that were in the group of Judge, Sanchez, Andujar, that group ?? I usually think people that are the insiders in the Yankees coaches or who ever should know, but so far he hasn't proven them right.. If I remember he played in the fall league a couple years back and was the MVP hitter in that league, but I also heard that was a very friendly hitting league ???


I don't like his demeanor, but one can't always go by how a player acts, he just seems to take it like he hasn't a care in the world ?? I do think he needs to play and see if he can come around, if he stays healthy the rest of this year, it should give Ca$hman/Yankees an idea what to do with him going forward ??




Hey Yank, youre not the only one whos mentioned his demeanor. I think there was a poster on here that said ‘he looks like he doesn’t care or disinterested in baseball’ ( or something similar) and he got lambasted for it. Even tho I could see his point, not sure I would take it that far but his body language makes it seem so. He needs to smile more also like hes glad to be in the big show. Right now to me, he has a lot to prove, he seems a bit lazy (like Sanchez) and that may or may not be the reason he’s not progressing fast enough. Who really knows what’s in this guy’s head but it should be full of gratefulness towards owners for believing in him and for fans not giving him the Sonny Gray treatment. My two pennies!




straw, for most players, no one can determine what a player is thinking or feeling based upon his on-field demeanor. Some players wear their feelings on their sleeves, but most do not. He isn't exuding confidence, and I would attribute that to his not hitting as he believes he can. I'm sure he is very happy to be on the Yankees, but isn't at all satisfied with his hitting. Most players appreciate the confidence that their manager and team place in them, and I would presume he is no different. 


As far as smiling more, he has not been hitting well, so if he was smiling, people would criticize him for that, claiming he is taking his subpar performance lightly. When he has hit homers, he smiles, as they all usually do. But thus far he is not having a banner season, so not a whole lot to smile about. I certainly hope he gets going, so that changes.

1 year ago  ::  Aug 09, 2018 - 5:38PM #16
jimwest
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Aug 9, 2018 -- 12:49PM, bigjeep8 wrote:


Billy Eppler, now the Angels’ general manager, worked for the Yankees when they selected Bird in the fifth round of the 2011 amateur draft. I recalled speaking to Eppler back in 2015 about Didi Gregorius, another acquisition in which he played a significant role, and he mentioned a tenet he held about player evaluation.


A position player needs 1,250 to 1,500 big-league plate appearances, Eppler reiterated in a text message Wednesday. That, he wrote, is when “you have an idea of what the player’s standard level of performance [is].”


That represents more than two full seasons. Gregorius didn’t hit that range until the end of ’15; remember how many folks wanted him banished to Siberia early in his first season as a Yankee?




Eppler is a ML general manager who worked for the Yankees, and obviously is a knowledgable professional. Bird has had 585 PA's to date. If the Yankees subscribe to Eppler's opinion, they will give him at least another full season before they pull the plug. 

1 year ago  ::  Aug 09, 2018 - 5:47PM #17
Paterson
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    I have no data to support my idea, but I suspect that defensive shifts are especially effective against guys like Bird who never leg out a hit or pressure a defense with their speed. I could say the same thing for Sanchez.

1 year ago  ::  Aug 09, 2018 - 6:00PM #18
thestraw44
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Aug 9, 2018 -- 5:38PM, jimwest wrote:


Aug 9, 2018 -- 12:49PM, bigjeep8 wrote:


Billy Eppler, now the Angels’ general manager, worked for the Yankees when they selected Bird in the fifth round of the 2011 amateur draft. I recalled speaking to Eppler back in 2015 about Didi Gregorius, another acquisition in which he played a significant role, and he mentioned a tenet he held about player evaluation.


A position player needs 1,250 to 1,500 big-league plate appearances, Eppler reiterated in a text message Wednesday. That, he wrote, is when “you have an idea of what the player’s standard level of performance [is].”


That represents more than two full seasons. Gregorius didn’t hit that range until the end of ’15; remember how many folks wanted him banished to Siberia early in his first season as a Yankee?




Eppler is a ML general manager who worked for the Yankees, and obviously is a knowledgable professional. Bird has had 585 PA's to date. If the Yankees subscribe to Eppler's opinion, they will give him at least another full season before they pull the plug. 




Not If He gets hurt again. That’s maybe why he looks a little down, he knows he’s brittle! I kid but seriously you have to factor in these injuries as part of the waiting for him to peak period. If the guy cant stay healthy, you cut ties and find his replacement. I cant see Hal waiting for Bird to heal for even two months after four or five DL stints already. He maybe playing with some type of ailment right now for all we know. I’d say better now then later so Cashman doesn’t waste the offseason getting a substitute. I don’t trust Bird, seems like a bust.

1 year ago  ::  Aug 09, 2018 - 6:32PM #19
yankoldfan
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Aug 9, 2018 -- 6:00PM, thestraw44 wrote:


Aug 9, 2018 -- 5:38PM, jimwest wrote:


Aug 9, 2018 -- 12:49PM, bigjeep8 wrote:


Billy Eppler, now the Angels’ general manager, worked for the Yankees when they selected Bird in the fifth round of the 2011 amateur draft. I recalled speaking to Eppler back in 2015 about Didi Gregorius, another acquisition in which he played a significant role, and he mentioned a tenet he held about player evaluation.


A position player needs 1,250 to 1,500 big-league plate appearances, Eppler reiterated in a text message Wednesday. That, he wrote, is when “you have an idea of what the player’s standard level of performance [is].”


That represents more than two full seasons. Gregorius didn’t hit that range until the end of ’15; remember how many folks wanted him banished to Siberia early in his first season as a Yankee?




Eppler is a ML general manager who worked for the Yankees, and obviously is a knowledgable professional. Bird has had 585 PA's to date. If the Yankees subscribe to Eppler's opinion, they will give him at least another full season before they pull the plug. 




Not If He gets hurt again. That’s maybe why he looks a little down, he knows he’s brittle! I kid but seriously you have to factor in these injuries as part of the waiting for him to peak period. If the guy cant stay healthy, you cut ties and find his replacement. I cant see Hal waiting for Bird to heal for even two months after four or five DL stints already. He maybe playing with some type of ailment right now for all we know. I’d say better now then later so Cashman doesn’t waste the offseason getting a substitute. I don’t trust Bird, seems like a bust.




He also might be putting more pressure on himself than he needs to ?? With the idea of getting injured in the back of his mind could just be putting other ideas in his head ?? It's been said many a time, 90% of the success lies between one's ears ??

1 year ago  ::  Aug 09, 2018 - 7:30PM #20
luvdayanks
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Aug 9, 2018 -- 5:47PM, Paterson wrote:


    I have no data to support my idea, but I suspect that defensive shifts are especially effective against guys like Bird who never leg out a hit or pressure a defense with their speed. I could say the same thing for Sanchez.




I don't think you need data Pat, you're spot on.

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