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2 days ago  ::  Oct 15, 2018 - 11:43AM #181
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 73,915

Oct 15, 2018 -- 11:26AM, Max wrote:


Oct 14, 2018 -- 10:25AM, newinn wrote:


I agree they need pitching but aside from Corbin (who I'm not so sure about) and Happ (who is a #3 imo) there isn't much on the FA market. That means they will need to trade. Aside from the Birds and Grays that wont bring back the top rotation guy we need and  everyone wants to dump, who are you willing to trade? Oh and Fraziers value went down the tubes this year also




There's slim pickings after Corbin, Happ, and Morton. Happ and Morton are both in their mid 30's. Man, was I looking forward to the Yankees signing Fernandez, may he rest in peace.


Signing Happ and Corbin might be enough for the Yankees if they also bring back Britton. And providing Boone gets his Bullpen ready and uses it when he supposed to, and not repeat the mistakes he made vs the Red Sox in the postseason.  




Boone had a percentage of the failure of the post-season ... he for sure needs to step up his game ... in my opinion, he should have been fired.

2 days ago  ::  Oct 15, 2018 - 11:50AM #182
bumper
Posts: 4,790

Oct 15, 2018 -- 11:26AM, Max wrote:


Oct 14, 2018 -- 10:25AM, newinn wrote:


I agree they need pitching but aside from Corbin (who I'm not so sure about) and Happ (who is a #3 imo) there isn't much on the FA market. That means they will need to trade. Aside from the Birds and Grays that wont bring back the top rotation guy we need and  everyone wants to dump, who are you willing to trade? Oh and Fraziers value went down the tubes this year also




There's slim pickings after Corbin, Happ, and Morton. Happ and Morton are both in their mid 30's. Man, was I looking forward to the Yankees signing Fernandez, may he rest in peace.


Signing Happ and Corbin might be enough for the Yankees if they also bring back Britton. And providing Boone gets his Bullpen ready and uses it when he supposed to, and not repeat the mistakes he made vs the Red Sox in the postseason.  




yup, it's that simple. corbin and happ should be enough to solidify the rotation. britton to add depth to the pen. our offense was #2 and we set the all-time HR, so we don't to add another big bopper - just a LH contact guy like a daniel murphy and another year's experience for boone, stanton, the kidz etc and i like our chances next season.

2 days ago  ::  Oct 15, 2018 - 12:17PM #183
Paterson
Posts: 5,592

Oct 14, 2018 -- 9:22PM, hampfan wrote:


Oct 14, 2018 -- 8:57PM, Paterson wrote:


   The Yankees hit 154 with RISP in the Boston series. That is why they lost. Games 1 and 4 were very winnable with one well placed hit in each game. Except for game 2, the pitching was adequate. Beoone's slow reactions might be questioned, but the loss was on the offense. 




It happened to all those teams the Yanks steamrolled in the preceding century and it happens to all teams that make the postseason at some point. The "new" configuration of postseason games leads any team to "anything can happen." I don't judge teams by their postseason results, at least not how it used to be the case. Some significant player has a sore thumb (unspoken) or a marital argument last night or a depression in the air. One year, A-rod bombs out, the next he doesn't. Next year we'll go will in RISP; the following year, not. Who knows? A kid in the right-field stands who shuns the rules changes the MLB record. The whole thing comes down to life's if not Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle: how the sun shines on a given day, or how it doesn't, or....Forget Branch Rickey's aphorism that luck is the residue of design. Quite the opposite, in fact. In baseball, many of us live out the illusion that we can control the real.




   You are killing me Hamp. If I buy into your theme, we play 9 innings every day and decide the outcome at the end of the season with data analysis. Maybe that will happen soon.


   For today we play discrete games that lead to championship series. The better team does not always win, but the team that plays better does. Teams win by scouitng, hitting, fielding, pitching, running bases, stealing bases, stealing signs, faking tags and all sorts of  other factors.


   Maybe I am wrong when I say we lost because we hit 154 with guys in scoring position. We could have run if we pitched better, made spectacular defensive plays or stolen home a few times. We didn't. The Red Sox played better than we did. It sucks but it was not just bad luck and we have to live with it.

2 days ago  ::  Oct 15, 2018 - 3:38PM #184
hampfan
Posts: 3,132

Oct 15, 2018 -- 12:17PM, Paterson wrote:


Oct 14, 2018 -- 9:22PM, hampfan wrote:


Oct 14, 2018 -- 8:57PM, Paterson wrote:


   The Yankees hit 154 with RISP in the Boston series. That is why they lost. Games 1 and 4 were very winnable with one well placed hit in each game. Except for game 2, the pitching was adequate. Beoone's slow reactions might be questioned, but the loss was on the offense. 




It happened to all those teams the Yanks steamrolled in the preceding century and it happens to all teams that make the postseason at some point. The "new" configuration of postseason games leads any team to "anything can happen." I don't judge teams by their postseason results, at least not how it used to be the case. Some significant player has a sore thumb (unspoken) or a marital argument last night or a depression in the air. One year, A-rod bombs out, the next he doesn't. Next year we'll go will in RISP; the following year, not. Who knows? A kid in the right-field stands who shuns the rules changes the MLB record. The whole thing comes down to life's if not Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle: how the sun shines on a given day, or how it doesn't, or....Forget Branch Rickey's aphorism that luck is the residue of design. Quite the opposite, in fact. In baseball, many of us live out the illusion that we can control the real.




   You are killing me Hamp. If I buy into your theme, we play 9 innings every day and decide the outcome at the end of the season with data analysis. Maybe that will happen soon.


   For today we play discrete games that lead to championship series. The better team does not always win, but the team that plays better does. Teams win by scouitng, hitting, fielding, pitching, running bases, stealing bases, stealing signs, faking tags and all sorts of  other factors.


   Maybe I am wrong when I say we lost because we hit 154 with guys in scoring position. We could have run if we pitched better, made spectacular defensive plays or stolen home a few times. We didn't. The Red Sox played better than we did. It sucks but it was not just bad luck and we have to live with it.




I can't help it, Pat, I just believe in a random universe, accidental meetings, etc. If Hitler hadn't invaded Russia in 1940, who knows what Europe and the US would now resemble? I don't believe in "destiny" dictating the outcomes. How many great nations have gone down the tubes b/c of a disease or a meterological occurrence. In an infinitely smaller context, once MLB decided to mimic football and its schedule of playoffs--b/c TV suddenly became football's cash cow--the whole thing went off the rails, imo. Adding the MLB "wildcard," while it made some sense, has just stoked the chaos. But you're right. Boston was the better team this time around (they've shown it so far w/ Houston), though you can't help thinking that if this hadn't happened (Boone's pitching slip-ups, for example ), that might have happened--we might've won. I think we're still the better offensive team, our RISP issues notwithstanding. I also believe we'll show that next season, esp. if we beef up (yes, there's more to do in that area, i.e., from the left-side, both hitting and pitching) over the winter. I'd like to roll into Beantown waving a Yankee flag the way John Riggins did one time w/ a different flag against the Championship opposition when he played for the Redskins. Cocky and sure and yet wary of the random.

2 days ago  ::  Oct 16, 2018 - 12:59AM #185
TheManMike
Posts: 2,603

Oct 11, 2018 -- 7:57AM, yanksbest wrote:


Oct 11, 2018 -- 12:14AM, TheManMike wrote:


Bring Mike Scioscia onto the coaching staff so he could assist Boone on how to better manage his team, while helping to incorporate some small ball for some of the players who has the ability or could learn to acquire it in addition to working with Gary Sanchez on his fielding since Mike is a former catcher. So SICK of the long ball mentality, it's NOT getting the team anywhere of late except disappointing and quicker than usual exits out of the playoffs.


Need another top of rotation pitcher since the Gray experiment failed MISERABLY. I would bring Happ back as the veteran/#4 starter of the rotation and wish CC well in his future endeavors. If DeGrom can be had for a reasonable price and the Mets feel comfortable trading him to crosstown rivals, get him.


See who is available that would be a great addition to the helping the Yankees better their RISP numbers. Someone who can hit more for average and get on base.




I agree most if not all of the coaching staff has to go. Boone needed a veteran "Don Zimmer" like Bench Coach. I'm surprised Cashman let Boone hire a bench coach without much experience. Scioscia or Showalter would be great. David Cone or Al Leiter as the Pitching Coach and Paul O'Neill as the Hitting Coach.




Yeah, I was kind of disappointed that the Yankees would just get rid of majority of the 2017 coaching staff when it was that same staff that helped guide them to within one game away from a World Series appearance. If you're gonna change staff like that, at least keep a few veterans around just in case the rookie management gets confused on particular situations.

2 days ago  ::  Oct 16, 2018 - 1:10AM #186
TheManMike
Posts: 2,603

Oct 11, 2018 -- 9:25AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Oct 11, 2018 -- 12:14AM, TheManMike wrote:


Bring Mike Scioscia onto the coaching staff so he could assist Boone on how to better manage his team, while helping to incorporate some small ball for some of the players who has the ability or could learn to acquire it in addition to working with Gary Sanchez on his fielding since Mike is a former catcher. So SICK of the long ball mentality, it's NOT getting the team anywhere of late except disappointing and quicker than usual exits out of the playoffs.


Need another top of rotation pitcher since the Gray experiment failed MISERABLY. I would bring Happ back as the veteran/#4 starter of the rotation and wish CC well in his future endeavors. If DeGrom can be had for a reasonable price and the Mets feel comfortable trading him to crosstown rivals, get him.


See who is available that would be a great addition to the helping the Yankees better their RISP numbers. Someone who can hit more for average and get on base.




I have a hard time seeing Scioscia accepting a bench coach role.  If he was interested, sure, but he's made enough money as a manager that it would need to be a "love of the game" kind of thing.  I think he'd probably have more interest in a front office role somewhere.





Possibly. But he could also be Boone's heir apparent if Boone doesn't show progress in year 2. 100 wins is dandy and all, but it meant almost diddly squat because the team didn't have a strong playoff run like they did the year prior. The goal is to strive upward, not downward.

1 day ago  ::  Oct 16, 2018 - 7:28AM #187
yankoldfan
Posts: 4,746

Oct 15, 2018 -- 11:26AM, Max wrote:


Oct 14, 2018 -- 10:25AM, newinn wrote:


I agree they need pitching but aside from Corbin (who I'm not so sure about) and Happ (who is a #3 imo) there isn't much on the FA market. That means they will need to trade. Aside from the Birds and Grays that wont bring back the top rotation guy we need and  everyone wants to dump, who are you willing to trade? Oh and Fraziers value went down the tubes this year also




There's slim pickings after Corbin, Happ, and Morton. Happ and Morton are both in their mid 30's. Man, was I looking forward to the Yankees signing Fernandez, may he rest in peace.


Signing Happ and Corbin might be enough for the Yankees if they also bring back Britton. And providing Boone gets his Bullpen ready and uses it when he supposed to, and not repeat the mistakes he made vs the Red Sox in the postseason.  




You and I are on the same page Max, Corbin, Happ, and over spend a little to keep Britton... I think Britton is a key factor for us in the FA market.. The game has changed and the BP's play a much bigger part of todays game...

1 day ago  ::  Oct 16, 2018 - 12:44PM #188
Stewie
Posts: 1,568

Oct 15, 2018 -- 11:26AM, Max wrote:


Oct 14, 2018 -- 10:25AM, newinn wrote:


I agree they need pitching but aside from Corbin (who I'm not so sure about) and Happ (who is a #3 imo) there isn't much on the FA market. That means they will need to trade. Aside from the Birds and Grays that wont bring back the top rotation guy we need and  everyone wants to dump, who are you willing to trade? Oh and Fraziers value went down the tubes this year also




There's slim pickings after Corbin, Happ, and Morton. Happ and Morton are both in their mid 30's. Man, was I looking forward to the Yankees signing Fernandez, may he rest in peace.


Signing Happ and Corbin might be enough for the Yankees if they also bring back Britton. And providing Boone gets his Bullpen ready and uses it when he supposed to, and not repeat the mistakes he made vs the Red Sox in the postseason.  




It wasn't just in the post season that Boone pooped the bed handling pitchers, it was all season.  How many times this year did I crane my neck out toward the Yankee bullpen when our starter was being pummelled from pillar to post, only to find not a creature was stirring, not even a Bronx rat.  It's just that his ALDS blunders were put on display by the magnitude of the moment.  He is worthless as a manager and should not be given a second chance to fumblef*ck his way througn another season. 

6 hours ago  ::  Oct 17, 2018 - 8:16AM #189
nc01
Posts: 2,208

Oct 16, 2018 -- 12:44PM, Stewie wrote:


Oct 15, 2018 -- 11:26AM, Max wrote:


Oct 14, 2018 -- 10:25AM, newinn wrote:


I agree they need pitching but aside from Corbin (who I'm not so sure about) and Happ (who is a #3 imo) there isn't much on the FA market. That means they will need to trade. Aside from the Birds and Grays that wont bring back the top rotation guy we need and  everyone wants to dump, who are you willing to trade? Oh and Fraziers value went down the tubes this year also




There's slim pickings after Corbin, Happ, and Morton. Happ and Morton are both in their mid 30's. Man, was I looking forward to the Yankees signing Fernandez, may he rest in peace.


Signing Happ and Corbin might be enough for the Yankees if they also bring back Britton. And providing Boone gets his Bullpen ready and uses it when he supposed to, and not repeat the mistakes he made vs the Red Sox in the postseason.  




It wasn't just in the post season that Boone pooped the bed handling pitchers, it was all season.  How many times this year did I crane my neck out toward the Yankee bullpen when our starter was being pummelled from pillar to post, only to find not a creature was stirring, not even a Bronx rat.  It's just that his ALDS blunders were put on display by the magnitude of the moment.  He is worthless as a manager and should not be given a second chance to fumblef*ck his way througn another season. 




Yeah, and he only won 100 games this season, right Stinky?



NC...




6 hours ago  ::  Oct 17, 2018 - 8:50AM #190
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 12,521

Oct 16, 2018 -- 12:44PM, Stewie wrote:


Oct 15, 2018 -- 11:26AM, Max wrote:


Oct 14, 2018 -- 10:25AM, newinn wrote:


I agree they need pitching but aside from Corbin (who I'm not so sure about) and Happ (who is a #3 imo) there isn't much on the FA market. That means they will need to trade. Aside from the Birds and Grays that wont bring back the top rotation guy we need and  everyone wants to dump, who are you willing to trade? Oh and Fraziers value went down the tubes this year also




There's slim pickings after Corbin, Happ, and Morton. Happ and Morton are both in their mid 30's. Man, was I looking forward to the Yankees signing Fernandez, may he rest in peace.


Signing Happ and Corbin might be enough for the Yankees if they also bring back Britton. And providing Boone gets his Bullpen ready and uses it when he supposed to, and not repeat the mistakes he made vs the Red Sox in the postseason.  




It wasn't just in the post season that Boone pooped the bed handling pitchers, it was all season.  How many times this year did I crane my neck out toward the Yankee bullpen when our starter was being pummelled from pillar to post, only to find not a creature was stirring, not even a Bronx rat.  It's just that his ALDS blunders were put on display by the magnitude of the moment.  He is worthless as a manager and should not be given a second chance to fumblef*ck his way througn another season. 




Job openning, Yankees Manager


Must win at least 100 games, the Division, and sweep the World Series.  Anything less will result in immediate termination


Must be candid and self deprecating to the media


Must win over the clubhouse while throwing player under the bus with active criticism


Please include references

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