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2 months ago  ::  Oct 29, 2018 - 4:57PM #1
Lulu
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The Yankees baseball operations and scouting departments are “lukewarm” on free agent Manny Machado, per Andy Martino of SNY.tv. Brian Cashman has not been shy about his pursuit of Machado in the past, but the third-baseman-turned-shortstop’s antics during this postseason may have slowed what otherwise could have been a more aggressive pursuit of the infielder in free agency. This isn’t to say the Yankees won’t end up signing Machado, but the questioning of Machado’s hustle and baseball ethic certainly allow the Yankees, as well as other teams, to take a more understandably patient approach in regards to his free agency. Martino adds (via Twitter) that the biggest variable still in play is the Steinbrenner family and whether or not Boston’s World Series win will prompt an aggressive mandate in regards to either Machado or fellow free agent stud Bryce Harper.


But that’s not all that’s happening in the AL East…

  • The Yankees have a $12.5MM option on Brett Gardner with a $2MM buyout for next season. Gardner, the longest-tenured Yankee, expressed an interest in coming back, but it remains to be seen if there will be a room in a crowded Yankee outfield that includes holdovers Aaron Judge, Giancarlo Stanton and Aaron Hicks. MLB.com’s Bryan Hoch writes that Brian Cashman and his lieutenants have held three days of scouting meetings to craft their strategy heading into the offseason, with  starting pitching figuring to be the priority. Regarding Gardner, the team could buyout his contract and look to bring him back at a discounted rate, but whether the 35-year-old outfielder would be amenable to such an arraignment is unclear. In 2018, Gardner appeared in 140 games, slashing .236/.322/.368 (2.8 rWAR).

Sources: After postseason antics, Yankees 'lukewarm' on signing Manny Machado


An all-out pursuit isn't ruled out, but won't be the recommendation of the Yankees' baseball operations department


By Andy Martino | 11:25AM


We're not here, the morning after the Boston Red Sox won their fourth World Series championship since 2004, to tell you that the Yankees definitely will not sign Manny Machado. If you're a Yankee fan, you probably don't want to hear that today.



And they're the Yankees. They might end up with the superstar shortstop, after all.



But we are here to tell you that the baseball operations and scouting departments, which spent most of last week meeting to plot an offseason strategy, was not impressed by Machado's postseason antics, and are now "lukewarm" on pursuing the former Oriole and Dodger, according to major league sources.



Twice in the past calendar year, Brian Cashman tried to trade for Machado -- and that was before shortstop Didi Gregorius tore an elbow ligament and learned he would be out for most of the 2019 season.



But as the team watched this postseason, and weighed it against what they already feared about Machado -- that he didn't always run out ground balls, that opponents thought he was a dirty player -- they became even more wary of committing to him for the better part of a decade.



This month alone, Machado failed to run out ground balls in key spots, said in a FOX television interview that he wasn't "Johnny Hustle," and engaged in enough borderline plays on the basepaths to inspire Milwaukee's MVP candidate Christian Yelich to call him a "dirty player."



There is nuance to all of these situations. In the now-infamous interview, Machado was in fact engaged in an earnest effort to find the words to explain a purely physical and instinctual act. The so-called dirty plays were not great, but they certainly didn't show apathy.



And of course, Machado is one of the most talented ballplayers in the world. It's possible that because of that, and the need to address the Red Sox championship, Yankees ownership will mandate an all-out pursuit of Machado.



But that won't be the recommendation of baseball ops. That department would prefer to monitor the Machado market, see how it unfolds, but not go all-in, as they did for, say CC Sabathia after the 2008 season.



The 2018 playoffs might not ultimately cost Machado money, but they did cost him some enthusiasm in the offices at Yankee Stadium.


Sources: Yankees not expected to pursue free agent Bryce Harper


The early feeling is that Harper simply doesn't fit


By Andy Martino | 11:57AM        


 


Andy Martino, SNY.tv | Twitter | As the Yankees wrapped their pro scouting meetings last week and determined a preliminary offseason strategy, a pursuit of free agent outfielder Bryce Harper was not part of the plan, according to major league sources.


As with Manny Machado, who the Yankees will monitor but not likely pursue aggressively, ownership could step in and mandate a Harper signing. The Steinbrenner family just watched the Boston Red Sox win yet another World Series, and might be in the mood to load up on superstars.


But the Yankees' early feeling is that Harper simply doesn't fit. While they could use the lefthanded bat in a righty-heavy lineup, they feel that their outfield and DH spots are spoken for...


Aaron Hicks, Aaron Judge and Giancarlo Stanton will return, and the team holds an option on Brett Gardner. Miguel Andujar might also need to move to left field or first base before long, because of his shaky defense at third. The Yanks are still paying Jacoby Ellsbury.


The Yankees have multiple bullpen and rotation spots to fill, and their early offseason focus centers more around pitching.


Alex Rodriguez has awkward reunion with Jason Varitek after Red Sox win World Series


The two rivals ignited infamous brawl in 2004


It appears there is still some tension between Alex Rodriguez and Jason Varitek. 


The former Red Sox catcher, who infamously brawled with Rodriguez in 2004, crossed paths with the former Yankees slugger on Sunday while celebrating Boston's World Series win over the Dodgers. 


Varitek, who works as a special assistant to Red Sox GM Dave Dombrowksi, stopped by the Fox Sports postgame set to say hello to his former teammate, David Ortiz. 


Key 2018 Offseason dates for Yankees, MLB


The Winter Meetings begin in Las Vegas on Dec. 9


By Danny Abriano | 9:30AM


Here are the key 2018 MLB offseason dates, and how they impact the Mets...






Day after World Series ends: Free agency begins



Outfielder Bryce Harper and shortstop/third baseman Manny Machado headline the free agent class, and the Yanks are expected to have interest in at least Machado. But the Yankees' main need will be starting pitching help, and Patrick CorbinDallas Keuchel and old friend Nathan Eovaldi will be among the best arms available. When it comes to relievers, Craig Kimbrel, Adam Ottavino, and Jeurys Familia will be among the headliners as the Yankees could look to recreate their "super bullpen."


J.A. Happ, CC Sabathia, Lance Lynn, Zach Britton, David RobertsonBrett Gardner (if his option isn't picked up), Andrew McCutchen, and Neil Walker are the Yankees' notable free agents. 


Nov. 12: Rookie of the Year Award announced


The race is expected to come down to Miguel Andujar and Shohei Ohtani of the Angels


Yankees have 7-to-1 odds to win 2019 World Series


Red Sox are favored to repeat, but Yanks right behind rivals


By John Healy | 10:15AM


The Red Sox are the 2018 World Series champions, but it is never too early to start looking at the favorites for next year. 



Westgate Sportsbook in Las Vegas released its odds on the 2019 World Series shortly after the Red Sox defeated the Dodgers in five games on Sunday night and Boston is favored, along with Houston Astros, at 6-to-1 odds to win next year's title. 



However, the Yankees are not too far behind. 



The Bronx Bombers are right behind American League rivals Red Sox and Astros at 7-to-1 odds to win the World Series next year. As are the Dodgers, who have lost the World Series the last two years. 



The Red Sox and Astros are both 11-to-4 odds to win the American League pennant while the Yankees are slated at 7-to-2. 



Behind the Yankees to win the World Series are the Cubs and Indians at 10-to-1 odds. 


Yankees' Mariano Rivera on his Hall of Fame case this year: 'Maybe'


Rivera retired in 2013 with the most saves in baseball history


Yankees legend Mariano Rivera isn't looking too far ahead into his future -- even with a potential spot in the Baseball Hall of Fame looming.


Rivera, who continues to hold the record for the most saves of all time, with 652, will be on the Hall of Fame ballot for the first time. When he was asked about it, he simply said "maybe," according to the New York Post.


Rivera said he has leaned on Trevor Hoffman, who was already inducted, for advice about the Hall of Fame process. He said at the appropriate time he will discuss his case for the Hall of Fame.


"Right now I don't know what to expect," Rivera said. "It will be something that will bring me home when I was a little one in Panama and now to be considered to be on the ballot is just amazing. Again, I can give you a better answer when the time comes.''


Rivera retired after saving 44 games in 2013 and winning AL Comeback Player of the Year honors. He finished with a 2.21 career ERA in 1,283.2 innings across 19 major league seasons, all with the Yankees.


He was a 13-time All-Star, five-time World Series champion, and the 1999 World Series MVP. He was also the MVP of the 1996 ALCS. 


Six Yankees Offseason Questions: How can they improve the starting rotation?


The Yankees need an ace and a strong No. 2 starter


As the Yankees look toward the 2019 season, the starting rotation will be chief among the facets the club will seek to improve. They need an ace. They need a strong No. 2 and heck, they need a back-end of the rotation arm.


As it stands, the Yankees have two starters -- Luis Severino and Masahiro Tanaka -- locked into roster spots. Yankees GM Brian Cashman has already stated he will try to trade Sonny Gray, while J.A. Happ and CC Sabathia are free agents.


So, how will the Yankees build the 2019 rotation?


The ace within


Severino was dialed in for his first 18 starts of the season, pitching to a 1.98 ERA, .195 BAA with 138 strikeouts in 118.1 innings. Severino was viewed as a Cy Young Award candidate heading into the All-Star break, but he seemingly lost everything afterward. He slogged through the second half, more resembling the pitcher that struggled in 2016 than the hurler on the ascent to be the ace of the Yankees for years to come.


Severino's finish to this season was disappointing and whether it was mechanics, fatigue, an injury or tipping pitches, all of those things can be fixed. The good news is that Severino will pitch the entire 2019 season at the age of 25. This is an extremely talented pitcher approaching his prime seasons. The point is there is room to grow and gain full season consistency, meaning the ace of the staff might still be sitting in front of the Yankees' eyes.


Mutual interest


Teams enter the offseason with a checklist of sorts littered with names of players they believe would fit into a particular role with the club. That does not always mean that the players have a desire to sign with the team. In Patrick Corbin, there is a bonafide mutual interest.


Corbin, born in Clay, NY, just outside of Syracuse, grew up an avid Yankees fan. Earlier this year, he was crystal clear about his feelings when it comes to the chance to don pinstripes.


"It would definitely be great to play there,'' Corbin told USA Today. "I grew up a Yankee fan. My whole family are Yankee fans. My mom, my dad, my grandpa, everybody. Really, every generation of my family has been Yankee fans."


The Yankees could certainly use a top of the rotation starter to wedge between Severino and Tanaka. Corbin's fantastic season at the age of 29, puts him in line for a solid payday, one that the Yankees can easily absorb. Corbin's left-handedness and newfound strikeout ability (246 Ks in 200 innings) is a plus for the Yankees as is southpaw's ability to log innings (he reached 200 for the first time since he underwent Tommy John surgery prior to the start of the 2014 season).


The Yankees need that type of arm, a strong No. 2, with the upside of an ace.


Steady No. 3


Tanaka once looked to be in the same boat as Severino, on the verge of being the club's ace. He might have held the mantle for a short time in his tenure with the Yankees, but being the best starter on a club doesn't necessarily mean the pitcher is an ace.


After back-to-back seasons in which two very different pitchers emerged from the same individual, it is fair to assess Tanaka as a No. 3 type starter who can dominate at times, yet be brought back to Earth by the occasional clunker.


Tanaka is a 25-28 start per season hurler at this stage in his career, with the one consistency being that the effort he'll provide will be 100 percent each time out. Tanaka is gritty enough to push through starts without his best stuff, but is no longer a 200-inning pitcher that can carry the load on his back for more than a handful of starts at a time.


FOUR!!!


The Yankees don't want to shank one here. The Yanks have two options to fill the No. 4 slot in the rotation from the 2018 squad in Happ and Sabathia.


Each pitcher has expressed a desire to come back to New York and each has a particular fit with the club. Happ, despite the hiccup in Game 1 of the ALDS, has shown to be formidable against AL East squads and for the contract he'd warrant, surely fits the No. 4 role, with upside of No. 3 results. Meanwhile, Sabathia has figured out how to succeed by inducing soft contact, albeit without throwing a lot of innings per start.


Happ would seem to be the better choice in which the Yankees would feel comfortable knowing they have a 30-start pitcher with quality stuff coming out every fifth day. Of course, the club would also be wise to peruse the free agent market. Maybe a reunion with Nathan Eovaldi is in store? Charlie Morton and Tyson Ross could also be considered.


Five, six, seven and beyond


We cannot dismiss a reunion with Sabathia, especially at an inexpensive one-year cost. Sabathia as the No. 5 gives the Yankees a veteran presence to work with a solid grouping of youngsters -- righties Domingo German, Michael King and Jonathan Loaisiga, along with southpaw Justus Sheffield -- that will invariably be called on when one of the starters goes down.


Last season, the Yankees were set to roll with second-year pitcher Jordan Montgomery as the No. 5 starter and when he went down with an elbow injury that required Tommy John surgery, they were not properly prepared to cover the innings.


The four young and inexperienced hurlers should not be relied on for significant innings from the outset of the 2019 season. One or more might push themselves into the conversation as the season progresses, but the Yankees cannot make the same mistake they did in 2018 where it concerns depth. With that in mind, don't be surprised if there is a veteran sixth man added to the Triple-A roster during the spring to alleviate any pressure the club might feel to insert a youthful arm.








 


2 months ago  ::  Oct 29, 2018 - 5:43PM #2
yankoldfan
Posts: 5,124

As I read the above, pitching is the main offseason need.. I find it hard to believe the Yankees seem to have no interest in Harper, but as they say in the article, the outfield seems full and for the money, it would cost to add Harper it could/should be spent for pitching.. 


My liking would be to add Corbin, Eovaldi, and bring back Happ, and make sure we bring back Robertson and Britton, I think Murphy to play second base and move Torres to SS until Didi is healthy... Maybe offer Walker a deal if he takes one on the cheaper side for a year only ?? This team has enough offense, especially if they could cut down on their two-strike approach, and not strike out so much.. Not sure it could be done, but other teams do it, I don't know why we can't ?? Andujar is the question mark, can he improve on his defense or are they going to have to try and move him to another position, his bat is one of the best on the team, one of the few decent % hitters in this lineup last year, and should only get better with time... Just my two cents...

2 months ago  ::  Oct 29, 2018 - 7:05PM #3
hampfan
Posts: 3,215

Oct 29, 2018 -- 5:43PM, yankoldfan wrote:


As I read the above, pitching is the main offseason need.. I find it hard to believe the Yankees seem to have no interest in Harper, but as they say in the article, the outfield seems full and for the money, it would cost to add Harper it could/should be spent for pitching.. 


My liking would be to add Corbin, Eovaldi, and bring back Happ, and make sure we bring back Robertson and Britton, I think Murphy to play second base and move Torres to SS until Didi is healthy... Maybe offer Walker a deal if he takes one on the cheaper side for a year only ?? This team has enough offense, especially if they could cut down on their two-strike approach, and not strike out so much.. Not sure it could be done, but other teams do it, I don't know why we can't ?? Andujar is the question mark, can he improve on his defense or are they going to have to try and move him to another position, his bat is one of the best on the team, one of the few decent % hitters in this lineup last year, and should only get better with time... Just my two cents...





oldfan, I agree w/ you about the pitchers you mention. Happ normally pitches through six innings, and letting CC and Gardner go will pretty much pay for Happ's first year of a two-year contract. Corbin? Maybe. We do need a 2nd LH starter and Sheffield doesn't seem to be on that radar screen, at least not yet (and perhaps primed for a trade?--or a replacement for Britton in the bullpen?). Kershaw? sure, but he'll cost more than the risk is worth--and I doubt he matches Chris Sale given K's declining velocity and the AL pressure. Eovaldi? I doubt Cashman will admit his mistake in not keeping him in the nest, and even if he does, Rothschild certainly doesn't help matters. I still think that we should go after Harper--I don't trust the lack-of-interest theme there--smokescreen?--but if we don't add LH power in the OF, we'll still linger behind the Red Sox, imo. (Frazier's untested over the long haul or even for a long haul, besides being one more RH bat.) Murphy would help, but we need more, imo.

2 months ago  ::  Oct 29, 2018 - 8:32PM #4
theBaron
Posts: 1,781

Cashman must once again get high on base % hitters ...i read that Ellsbury will be ready for ST , whatever that means ...PITCHING is a MUST , start with CORBIN !!  JUST MY OPINION ...dont need Harper or Machado , unless they TRADE STANTON ...solve the 1B situation is BIRD THE ANSWER OR NOT ?? IS VOIT THE ANSWER OR NOT ?? Sanchez needs work on defense....so does Andujar ...Cashman needs a SS , or a 2B if Torres is switched back...for most of the year , D D should not rush back ..i would say take a shot at Eovaldi ...he is a different pitcher ...i think if Walker, or Murphy is signed how bad can they be ? ...i wanna see Sheffield , lets see what he has ..either he is ready or Not ...a lot of questions ...gotta make up 8-10 games on Boston ...they work the count...they have Fundemental hitters 1-9 ...and they play good defense .....like i said 8-10 games Mr Boone.

"it's when the Yankees score eight runs in the first inning .....and then slowly pull away"
Yankees owner Jacob Ruppert , on a perfect afternoon at Yankee Stadium.
2 months ago  ::  Oct 29, 2018 - 9:06PM #5
hampfan
Posts: 3,215

Oct 29, 2018 -- 8:32PM, theBaron wrote:


Cashman must once again get high on base % hitters ...i read that Ellsbury will be ready for ST , whatever that means ...PITCHING is a MUST , start with CORBIN !!  JUST MY OPINION ...dont need Harper or Machado , unless they TRADE STANTON ...solve the 1B situation is BIRD THE ANSWER OR NOT ?? IS VOIT THE ANSWER OR NOT ?? Sanchez needs work on defense....so does Andujar ...Cashman needs a SS , or a 2B if Torres is switched back...for most of the year , D D should not rush back ..i would say take a shot at Eovaldi ...he is a different pitcher ...i think if Walker, or Murphy is signed how bad can they be ? ...i wanna see Sheffield , lets see what he has ..either he is ready or Not ...a lot of questions ...gotta make up 8-10 games on Boston ...they work the count...they have Fundemental hitters 1-9 ...and they play good defense .....like i said 8-10 games Mr Boone.




Sorry, Baron, just not giving up on Harper in our OF. If not he, then another power-bat. Otherwise, Dombrowski wins again, whatever A- pitchers we can get this postseason or not.

2 months ago  ::  Oct 29, 2018 - 9:22PM #6
flatronnie
Posts: 31
I do not understand how this organization would prefer Machado over Harper. Another righty, mental midget.

They really effed everything up with the Stanton trade. Awful....
2 months ago  ::  Oct 29, 2018 - 9:48PM #7
xnewyorker
Posts: 647
Yanks need a LH bat badly and if they pass on Harper than maybe get Votto for 1B if Reds eat some money.

Offer Stanton to the LAD if the Dodgers dont get Harper either for Bellinger.
2 months ago  ::  Oct 29, 2018 - 9:49PM #8
xnewyorker
Posts: 647
See if Nats will make Scherzer available.  He is a bonafide ace and game changer.
2 months ago  ::  Oct 30, 2018 - 12:12AM #9
dixieyank
Posts: 5,281

Oct 29, 2018 -- 9:48PM, xnewyorker wrote:

Yanks need a LH bat badly and if they pass on Harper than maybe get Votto for 1B if Reds eat some money. Offer Stanton to the LAD if the Dodgers dont get Harper either for Bellinger.



Too much money, carried into too much age. I think that contract looks UGLY by the end.


Players that interest me would be: Donaldson, Murphy, Brantley, Hyun-Jin Ryu. All dependent on price and length of contract. 

1 month ago  ::  Oct 30, 2018 - 8:30AM #10
JamesD
Posts: 94

The offseason of lefties? Brantley, Murphy, Panik, Corbin, Happ, Britton, Miller. I prefer the Yankees add hitters like Brantley, Murphy, Panik to complement their right handed power hitters. There are probably other similar lefty bats out there besides these guys who the Yankees should target since they hit for high average, low strikeouts, and decent walk totals. Of course at reasonable prices.


In terms of pitching, I believe the cost effective way to go is again building an elite bullpen since the starting pitching market is weak or too expensive in terms of prospects.


This is just one scenario of how the offseason will go. It's not going to make the headlines but I rather the Yankees build a championship team more than winning headlines. Let some other team make that big splash and regret those unmovable Ellsburian contracts, lol! 

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