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6 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2018 - 3:33PM #11
2BBobby
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Nov 6, 2018 -- 3:15PM, newinn wrote:


Not sure how to do it Bobby but perhaps a $ 15 dollar minimu for those over 21. I know when I owned the kennel, 15 bucks an hour for the 5 pt high school kids would have really hurt. I paid the full timere 15 bucks




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I understand what you're saying. Your age formula makes some sense, but then it would probably lead to those over the age being discriminated against in the hiring process. Maybe whether a person was in HS should be a factor, although that again would be discriminatory. Might even lead to a bunch of kids dropping out of HS Wink


I'm not sure how it should be determined. Maybe there is a formula being used...just seems kinda arbitrary. I think it was $1.15 when I first started working, which I think would be about $9.50 - $10.00 today. So at $7.25 the federal minimum wage hasn't kept pace with inflation.


6 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2018 - 3:38PM #12
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 14,753

Nov 6, 2018 -- 3:33PM, 2BBobby wrote:


Nov 6, 2018 -- 3:15PM, newinn wrote:


Not sure how to do it Bobby but perhaps a $ 15 dollar minimu for those over 21. I know when I owned the kennel, 15 bucks an hour for the 5 pt high school kids would have really hurt. I paid the full timere 15 bucks




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I understand what you're saying. Your age formula makes some sense, but then it would probably lead to those over the age being discriminated against in the hiring process. Maybe whether a person was in HS should be a factor, although that again would be discriminatory. Might even lead to a bunch of kids dropping out of HS 

I'm not sure how it should be determined. Maybe there is a formula being used...just seems kinda arbitrary. I think it was $1.15 when I first started working, which I think would be about $9.50 - $10.00 today. So at $7.25 the federal minimum wage hasn't kept pace with inflation.




Well the minimum wage in Seattle has been a temporary middle class pay cut for anyone under contract or that hasn’t negotiated a wage increase yet.

6 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2018 - 3:46PM #13
2BBobby
Posts: 3,255

Nov 6, 2018 -- 3:38PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Well the minimum wage in Seattle has been a temporary middle class pay cut for anyone under contract or that hasn’t negotiated a wage increase yet.




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Gotta tell you LL...if you truly believe there should be no minimum wage then there really isn't any point in further discussion. You're obviously a thinker, but you think only in abstract terms. Your brand of "libertarianism" is unrealistic and unworkable. 

6 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2018 - 3:47PM #14
Based Boardroomjimmy
Posts: 5,444

Nov 6, 2018 -- 3:19PM, 2BBobby wrote:



Actually, I knew you'd reply with something like that.


So...do you believe there should be a minimum wage at all?




no and here's the man who helped me realize why a minimum wage is bad and should be done away with. I know what he's saying isn't directly related to a western minumum wage but the principals are the same. 


6 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2018 - 3:50PM #15
2BBobby
Posts: 3,255

Nov 6, 2018 -- 3:47PM, Based Boardroomjimmy wrote:


no and here's the man who helped me realize why a minimum wage is bad and should be done away with. I know what he's saying isn't directly related to a western minumum wage but the principals are the same. 


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^^^


See my post above

6 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2018 - 3:52PM #16
newinn
Posts: 32,456

Nov 6, 2018 -- 3:33PM, 2BBobby wrote:


Nov 6, 2018 -- 3:15PM, newinn wrote:


Not sure how to do it Bobby but perhaps a $ 15 dollar minimu for those over 21. I know when I owned the kennel, 15 bucks an hour for the 5 pt high school kids would have really hurt. I paid the full timere 15 bucks




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I understand what you're saying. Your age formula makes some sense, but then it would probably lead to those over the age being discriminated against in the hiring process. Maybe whether a person was in HS should be a factor, although that again would be discriminatory. Might even lead to a bunch of kids dropping out of HS 

I'm not sure how it should be determined. Maybe there is a formula being used...just seems kinda arbitrary. I think it was $1.15 when I first started working, which I think would be about $9.50 - $10.00 today. So at $7.25 the federal minimum wage hasn't kept pace with inflation.





that's why I said I wasn't sure how to do it. At the time I sold the business, the minimum wage in Ct. was already 10.10 if I remember correctly it was phased in from 7.25 over 3 years. It was tough to keep passing those increases on to our customers so I ate better then 50%

6 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2018 - 4:32PM #17
Max
Posts: 42,830

Meanwhile, while Trump has his supporters distracted by watching the caravan. He should be angry and complaining about what's going on in Wisconsin, especially after the tax break that company got. 




Oops: Trump’s Foxconn Deal Is Creating Wisconsin Jobs for Chinese Workers


After Wisconsin taxpayers gifted the company $4.5 billion in subsidies.


www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/trumps-f...









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6 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2018 - 4:35PM #18
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 14,753

Nov 6, 2018 -- 4:32PM, Max wrote:


Meanwhile, while Trump has his supporters distracted by watching the caravan. He should be angry and complaining about what's going on in Wisconsin, especially after the tax break that company got. 




Oops: Trump’s Foxconn Deal Is Creating Wisconsin Jobs for Chinese Workers


After Wisconsin taxpayers gifted the company $4.5 billion in subsidies.


www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/trumps-f...




Are they earning a living wage?


6 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2018 - 4:38PM #19
newinn
Posts: 32,456

Nov 6, 2018 -- 4:35PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Nov 6, 2018 -- 4:32PM, Max wrote:


Meanwhile, while Trump has his supporters distracted by watching the caravan. He should be angry and complaining about what's going on in Wisconsin, especially after the tax break that company got. 




Oops: Trump’s Foxconn Deal Is Creating Wisconsin Jobs for Chinese Workers


After Wisconsin taxpayers gifted the company $4.5 billion in subsidies.


www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/11/trumps-f...




Are they earning a living wage?





you put far too much confidence in big business LL. I've seen it from the inside

6 months ago  ::  Nov 06, 2018 - 4:41PM #20
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 14,753

Nov 6, 2018 -- 3:46PM, 2BBobby wrote:


Nov 6, 2018 -- 3:38PM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Well the minimum wage in Seattle has been a temporary middle class pay cut for anyone under contract or that hasn’t negotiated a wage increase yet.




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Gotta tell you LL...if you truly believe there should be no minimum wage then there really isn't any point in further discussion. You're obviously a thinker, but you think only in abstract terms. Your brand of "libertarianism" is unrealistic and unworkable. 




If a living wage is so important why can't we get Democrats to agree to national E-Verify?  I would have to think with more than 22 million living in the shadows some of the people "doing jobs that Americans won't do" are being compensated in ways you consider "unrealistic and unworkable." The only thing worse than bad legislation is selective enforcement.

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