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6 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2018 - 10:31AM #31
bomberhojoe
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Nov 8, 2018 -- 9:30AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Nov 8, 2018 -- 9:10AM, bomberhojoe wrote:


CC is a future hall of famer, who knows how to pitch even on those days when he doesn't have his best stuff. He is a great guy to have around for Severino or any other young pitcher to learn by example.




On top of that, how many times has a pitcher come to NY and fallen miserably on his face.  We know CC can pitch here.  If you're importing 3 new pitchers, what are the chances one of them is a Sonny Gray?




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6 months ago  ::  Nov 08, 2018 - 10:34AM #32
cleanuphtr12
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Sonny Gray, not the Sonny Gray



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6 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2018 - 1:16AM #33
Yankees
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Nov 8, 2018 -- 9:07AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Nov 7, 2018 -- 11:41PM, Yankees wrote:


Nov 7, 2018 -- 10:08AM, Lulu wrote:

He is the 5th starter and on a cheap one year deal. You people make me laugh. You had no problem when it was Andy coming back on one year deals. Maybe because he was home grown?



Home grown and also he doesn't weigh over 300 pounds with knee issues.





300 lb with knee issues hasn't stopped him from performing the last few years.  His weight and his knee are only reasons not to sign him if they stop him from doing his job effectively.  If he pitches well despite the weight, it matters about as much as saying you don't like his haircut or one of his tattoos.




That's not sound.  CC will be another year older and his knee issues aren't going to get any better and his weight isn't helping the cause.  He's pretty much a ticking time bomb just because he's been luckyish so far doesn't mean 2019 will be the same.  They're much better option on the FA market, there's no reason to sign CC so early on.  If he's for insurance then our insurance will need insurance.

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2018 - 8:51AM #34
cleanuphtr12
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Nov 9, 2018 -- 1:16AM, Yankees wrote:


Nov 8, 2018 -- 9:07AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Nov 7, 2018 -- 11:41PM, Yankees wrote:


Nov 7, 2018 -- 10:08AM, Lulu wrote:

He is the 5th starter and on a cheap one year deal. You people make me laugh. You had no problem when it was Andy coming back on one year deals. Maybe because he was home grown?



Home grown and also he doesn't weigh over 300 pounds with knee issues.





300 lb with knee issues hasn't stopped him from performing the last few years.  His weight and his knee are only reasons not to sign him if they stop him from doing his job effectively.  If he pitches well despite the weight, it matters about as much as saying you don't like his haircut or one of his tattoos.




That's not sound.  CC will be another year older and his knee issues aren't going to get any better and his weight isn't helping the cause.  He's pretty much a ticking time bomb just because he's been luckyish so far doesn't mean 2019 will be the same.  They're much better option on the FA market, there's no reason to sign CC so early on.  If he's for insurance then our insurance will need insurance.




It's perfectly sound.  He's been 300 lbs his entire life.  We've been hearing this "ticking time bomb" story since he signed here and it has not come to fruition.  The weight and the knee are issues that he has to pitch around.  He has.


Are there much better options than CC on the FA market?  Of course.  Are there better options for THAT PRICE to fill the #5 spot in the rotation?  Absolutely not.

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2018 - 10:06AM #35
luvdayanks
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Nov 9, 2018 -- 8:51AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Nov 9, 2018 -- 1:16AM, Yankees wrote:


Nov 8, 2018 -- 9:07AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Nov 7, 2018 -- 11:41PM, Yankees wrote:


Nov 7, 2018 -- 10:08AM, Lulu wrote:

He is the 5th starter and on a cheap one year deal. You people make me laugh. You had no problem when it was Andy coming back on one year deals. Maybe because he was home grown?



Home grown and also he doesn't weigh over 300 pounds with knee issues.





300 lb with knee issues hasn't stopped him from performing the last few years.  His weight and his knee are only reasons not to sign him if they stop him from doing his job effectively.  If he pitches well despite the weight, it matters about as much as saying you don't like his haircut or one of his tattoos.




That's not sound.  CC will be another year older and his knee issues aren't going to get any better and his weight isn't helping the cause.  He's pretty much a ticking time bomb just because he's been luckyish so far doesn't mean 2019 will be the same.  They're much better option on the FA market, there's no reason to sign CC so early on.  If he's for insurance then our insurance will need insurance.




It's perfectly sound.  He's been 300 lbs his entire life.  We've been hearing this "ticking time bomb" story since he signed here and it has not come to fruition.  The weight and the knee are issues that he has to pitch around.  He has.


Are there much better options than CC on the FA market?  Of course.  Are there better options for THAT PRICE to fill the #5 spot in the rotation?  Absolutely not.




If push comes to shove they can put him in long relief. Basically he's only a 4 inning pitcher now.

6 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2018 - 10:27AM #36
cleanuphtr12
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Nov 9, 2018 -- 10:06AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Nov 9, 2018 -- 8:51AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Nov 9, 2018 -- 1:16AM, Yankees wrote:


Nov 8, 2018 -- 9:07AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Nov 7, 2018 -- 11:41PM, Yankees wrote:


Nov 7, 2018 -- 10:08AM, Lulu wrote:

He is the 5th starter and on a cheap one year deal. You people make me laugh. You had no problem when it was Andy coming back on one year deals. Maybe because he was home grown?



Home grown and also he doesn't weigh over 300 pounds with knee issues.





300 lb with knee issues hasn't stopped him from performing the last few years.  His weight and his knee are only reasons not to sign him if they stop him from doing his job effectively.  If he pitches well despite the weight, it matters about as much as saying you don't like his haircut or one of his tattoos.




That's not sound.  CC will be another year older and his knee issues aren't going to get any better and his weight isn't helping the cause.  He's pretty much a ticking time bomb just because he's been luckyish so far doesn't mean 2019 will be the same.  They're much better option on the FA market, there's no reason to sign CC so early on.  If he's for insurance then our insurance will need insurance.




It's perfectly sound.  He's been 300 lbs his entire life.  We've been hearing this "ticking time bomb" story since he signed here and it has not come to fruition.  The weight and the knee are issues that he has to pitch around.  He has.


Are there much better options than CC on the FA market?  Of course.  Are there better options for THAT PRICE to fill the #5 spot in the rotation?  Absolutely not.




If push comes to shove they can put him in long relief. Basically he's only a 4 inning pitcher now.




He averaged over 5 innings last year.  I think the demise of CC has been greatly exaggerated.

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2018 - 11:38AM #37
Lola
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CC's had an MRI on his knees... he's good to go... as luv said prob long relief!

6 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2018 - 12:48PM #38
Cocopugg
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CC's returning to get 4 more wins and 14 more Ks, so he can finish his career with 250 wins and 3,000 strikeouts.

6 months ago  ::  Nov 09, 2018 - 11:59PM #39
Yankees
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Nov 9, 2018 -- 8:51AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Nov 9, 2018 -- 1:16AM, Yankees wrote:


Nov 8, 2018 -- 9:07AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Nov 7, 2018 -- 11:41PM, Yankees wrote:


Nov 7, 2018 -- 10:08AM, Lulu wrote:

He is the 5th starter and on a cheap one year deal. You people make me laugh. You had no problem when it was Andy coming back on one year deals. Maybe because he was home grown?



Home grown and also he doesn't weigh over 300 pounds with knee issues.





300 lb with knee issues hasn't stopped him from performing the last few years.  His weight and his knee are only reasons not to sign him if they stop him from doing his job effectively.  If he pitches well despite the weight, it matters about as much as saying you don't like his haircut or one of his tattoos.




That's not sound.  CC will be another year older and his knee issues aren't going to get any better and his weight isn't helping the cause.  He's pretty much a ticking time bomb just because he's been luckyish so far doesn't mean 2019 will be the same.  They're much better option on the FA market, there's no reason to sign CC so early on.  If he's for insurance then our insurance will need insurance.




It's perfectly sound.  He's been 300 lbs his entire life.  We've been hearing this "ticking time bomb" story since he signed here and it has not come to fruition.  The weight and the knee are issues that he has to pitch around.  He has.


Are there much better options than CC on the FA market?  Of course.  Are there better options for THAT PRICE to fill the #5 spot in the rotation?  Absolutely not.




Like I said before just because he's been "okay" (during the 2018 he did miss time because of his knee issues) doesn't mean 2019 will be the same.  I don't think a pitcher who you hope can give you 150 innings is a good signing at all, we need someone more reliable then that.

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6 months ago  ::  Nov 10, 2018 - 6:51AM #40
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I'm not a fan of bringing back CC, but I think there are some options from which the Yankees can use him, if he doesn't work out as a starter, and they do pick up a couple of starters, he could have some value as a BP arm, a long reliever, a left handed specialist, I know he's going for a couple of milestones in his career, hell he might get those and retire before the season is over, who knows ??

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