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1 week ago  ::  Dec 05, 2018 - 11:24AM #1
bigjeep8
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Alex Rodriguez wants to add a new member to the Yankees family. And maybe even his own.



The baseball legend turned ESPN and Fox analyst not only thinks Nathan Eovaldi could be the stolen piece that leapfrogs the Yankees over the Red Sox, but he’s the type of person he would want to join his own family tree.



Rodriguez, who played alongside Eovaldi in pinstripes in 2015 and ’16, did not seem to hesitate with where the Yankees’ priorities should lie following the Nationals winning the Patrick Corbin auction on Tuesday.



“The key guy that can swing something is Eovaldi,” A-Rod said on ESPN Radio’s “The Michael Kay Show.”



“He’s 28 years old, he’s got No. 1 stuff, he can obviously pitch out of the bullpen. He’s got a rubber arm and maybe the balance [of the AL East] goes on who can land Eovaldi.”



Eovaldi was brilliant for Boston in the postseason, both out of the rotation and bullpen, making six total appearances for 22 1/3 innings and a 1.61 ERA, proving to be the trade piece from Tampa that pushed the Red Sox over the top.




The Yankees had landed J.A. Happ from Toronto as their deadline addition, and while he pitched well, he was not the difference-maker Eovaldi was.


“Happ did such a nice job it’s hard to go wrong,” Rodriguez said, when asked to pick between the two. “When in doubt I go with talent over emotion. And for me, I think the 28-year-old stud that throws 102 with a devastating split, who’s also New York proven like Happ.


“Here’s what I like about Eovaldi: He’s a Texas guy, he’s got Nolan Ryan makeup. And playing with this young man — Michael, you and I both have daughters. He’s the kind of kid with the makeup that you want your daughter to get married to. He’s a gem.”


It would be a reunion for Eovaldi and the Yankees, who let the right-hander go after Tommy John surgery in 2016. If they don’t land Eovaldi or Happ, Dallas Keuchel and Japanese starter Yusei Kikuchi are around, and Indians pitchers Carlos Carrasco and Corey Kluber are believed to be available in trades.


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1 week ago  ::  Dec 05, 2018 - 11:27AM #2
bigjeep8
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We should bring him back, he showed us a thing or two with Boston! With what we got, he would be a major upgrade at this point!

Boone: You know my mama wanted me to be a Manager.

Judge: My dad wanted me to be a baseball player.

Boone: Well you're better than any player I ever had. And you're the best God damn player I ever saw. Suit up.
1 week ago  ::  Dec 05, 2018 - 11:59AM #3
cleanuphtr12
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Dec 5, 2018 -- 11:27AM, bigjeep8 wrote:


We should bring him back, he showed us a thing or two with Boston! With what we got, he would be a major upgrade at this point!




He was the exact same pitcher he's been throughout his career.  High-3, low-4 ERA guy.  GREAT stuff mixed with ok results.  Plus his elbow is a ticking time bomb.  Alex has a ton of baseball knowledge, but I'm not sure how much his scouting report is worth when the stuff has never matched the results.  

1 week ago  ::  Dec 05, 2018 - 12:46PM #4
Paterson
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   It got reported last year that Eovaldi changed his pitching style during the rehab in Tampa. He went to a hard cutter in place of the splitter / forkball that Rothschild tried to teach him while in New York Maybe that did make him a lot more effective. But the fact is that he went into the postseason with a limited number of innings worked and I think they helped him be more effective.


   It is not my money so I don't care what the payroll is. But if the Yankees care, I would not spend $ 120 M on Nathan Eovaldi. We still don't know what he will look like after 170 innings.

1 week ago  ::  Dec 05, 2018 - 12:56PM #5
cleanuphtr12
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Dec 5, 2018 -- 12:46PM, Paterson wrote:


   It got reported last year that Eovaldi changed his pitching style during the rehab in Tampa. He went to a hard cutter in place of the splitter / forkball that Rothschild tried to teach him while in New York Maybe that did make him a lot more effective. But the fact is that he went into the postseason with a limited number of innings worked and I think they helped him be more effective.


   It is not my money so I don't care what the payroll is. But if the Yankees care, I would not spend $ 120 M on Nathan Eovaldi. We still don't know what he will look like after 170 innings.




I thought he was learning the cutter when he was here?  Pretty sure I've heard him credit Rothschild for that pitch recently.  FWIW, Fangraphs says he used a cutter for the first time in 2016 7.3% of the time before featuring it 32% of the time this year.  Seems like 2016 was the first year he started throwing both the cutter and the splitter.  He threw both pitches this year, but the cutter was featured moreso.



And while the increased cutter usage certainly provides a valid explanation for any improvement seen, I'm not sure that I am ready to buy into the brand new pitcher narrative.  He arguably pitched better in 2013 and advanced stats (FIP/WAR/etc.) liked him more in both 2014 and 2015.  The one real, noticeable improvement in 2018 was his increased K rate, which still wasn't great.  



So with all that said, did Eovaldi's increased cutter usage lead to improvement...?  Or did an inconsistent guy who has bounced between high-3 and high-4 ERA throughout his career just put up one of his "high-3's"?  I'm not sure that I see enough to tell convinced me it is the former.  And, again...  the elbow.




1 week ago  ::  Dec 05, 2018 - 1:10PM #6
bigjeep8
Posts: 562

Dec 5, 2018 -- 11:59AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Dec 5, 2018 -- 11:27AM, bigjeep8 wrote:


We should bring him back, he showed us a thing or two with Boston! With what we got, he would be a major upgrade at this point!




He was the exact same pitcher he's been throughout his career.  High-3, low-4 ERA guy.  GREAT stuff mixed with ok results.  Plus his elbow is a ticking time bomb.  Alex has a ton of baseball knowledge, but I'm not sure how much his scouting report is worth when the stuff has never matched the results.  




We have enough ticking bombs now, what's one more. Tanaka is always one pitch away fom TJ. Can you count on CC at the end of the year? Saverino is like a rollercoaster, up and down. Rainy Gray is on his way out. Happ? This pitching staff is not going to take us to the WS and our Farm system has been  depleated getting us nowhere but worse.


Boone: You know my mama wanted me to be a Manager.

Judge: My dad wanted me to be a baseball player.

Boone: Well you're better than any player I ever had. And you're the best God damn player I ever saw. Suit up.
1 week ago  ::  Dec 05, 2018 - 1:12PM #7
cleanuphtr12
Posts: 500

Dec 5, 2018 -- 1:10PM, bigjeep8 wrote:


Dec 5, 2018 -- 11:59AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Dec 5, 2018 -- 11:27AM, bigjeep8 wrote:


We should bring him back, he showed us a thing or two with Boston! With what we got, he would be a major upgrade at this point!




He was the exact same pitcher he's been throughout his career.  High-3, low-4 ERA guy.  GREAT stuff mixed with ok results.  Plus his elbow is a ticking time bomb.  Alex has a ton of baseball knowledge, but I'm not sure how much his scouting report is worth when the stuff has never matched the results.  




We have enough ticking bombs now, what's one more. Tanaka is always one pitch away fom TJ. Can you count on CC at the end of the year? Saverino is like a rollercoaster, up and down. Rainy Gray is on his way out. Happ? This pitching staff is not going to take us to the WS and our Farm system has been  depleated getting us nowhere but worse.






So your solution to "too many injury concerns" is "add another injury concern"?  Ok then.

1 week ago  ::  Dec 05, 2018 - 1:12PM #8
newinn
Posts: 31,553

Dec 5, 2018 -- 1:10PM, bigjeep8 wrote:


Dec 5, 2018 -- 11:59AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Dec 5, 2018 -- 11:27AM, bigjeep8 wrote:


We should bring him back, he showed us a thing or two with Boston! With what we got, he would be a major upgrade at this point!




He was the exact same pitcher he's been throughout his career.  High-3, low-4 ERA guy.  GREAT stuff mixed with ok results.  Plus his elbow is a ticking time bomb.  Alex has a ton of baseball knowledge, but I'm not sure how much his scouting report is worth when the stuff has never matched the results.  




We have enough ticking bombs now, what's one more. Tanaka is always one pitch away fom TJ. Can you count on CC at the end of the year? Saverino is like a rollercoaster, up and down. Rainy Gray is on his way out. Happ? This pitching staff is not going to take us to the WS and our Farm system has been  depleated getting us nowhere but worse.





well, like others,since you know the outcome, why watch and just torture yourself?

1 week ago  ::  Dec 05, 2018 - 2:34PM #9
bigjeep8
Posts: 562

Dec 5, 2018 -- 1:12PM, newinn wrote:


Dec 5, 2018 -- 1:10PM, bigjeep8 wrote:


Dec 5, 2018 -- 11:59AM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Dec 5, 2018 -- 11:27AM, bigjeep8 wrote:


We should bring him back, he showed us a thing or two with Boston! With what we got, he would be a major upgrade at this point!




He was the exact same pitcher he's been throughout his career.  High-3, low-4 ERA guy.  GREAT stuff mixed with ok results.  Plus his elbow is a ticking time bomb.  Alex has a ton of baseball knowledge, but I'm not sure how much his scouting report is worth when the stuff has never matched the results.  




We have enough ticking bombs now, what's one more. Tanaka is always one pitch away fom TJ. Can you count on CC at the end of the year? Saverino is like a rollercoaster, up and down. Rainy Gray is on his way out. Happ? This pitching staff is not going to take us to the WS and our Farm system has been  depleated getting us nowhere but worse.





well, like others,since you know the outcome, why watch and just torture yourself?




I'm a glutton for punishment!        Smile

Boone: You know my mama wanted me to be a Manager.

Judge: My dad wanted me to be a baseball player.

Boone: Well you're better than any player I ever had. And you're the best God damn player I ever saw. Suit up.
1 week ago  ::  Dec 05, 2018 - 2:48PM #10
newinn
Posts: 31,553

have no idea if the Yankees will go after him but I think Evoldi can be a similiar very good mid rotation pitcher. I actually thought he was a good 3/4 his first go round here. Just because Corbin was the best FA pitcher in this market doesn't make him an ace or a strong 2. I saw him as a good #3


I'll wait and see what Cashman does for another pitcher

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