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Here's why Machado is a bad move
12 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2019 - 10:03AM #1
batteyanks
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Rarely (if ever) does adding a big-name, big-ego free agent to a young club, or any club, result in championship-level improvement. It's usually a PR ploy to sell tickets. Machado, who has nowhere near the offensive potential or ceiling as Arod, Pujols, Cabrera or Stanton had at their paydays, and has never shown close to the ability to hit 40+ HR's and hit .330, also brings with him a history of lazy, self-centered, hotdogging that will never sit well with Yankees fans. When you add ingredients like this to young tems with raw talent, you spoil the chemistry. Look at the effect that Sanchez's lack of hustle and poor attitude has had on Gleyber Torres for example (and Sanchez was home-grown). The truth is that not only will Machado not make the team noticeably better (he's a mediocre SS), the history of the big-name free-agents signings since 2000 has told us that Machado is almost guaranteed to make the team worse. I'm hoping Cashman is begging Steinbrenner to let them pass on another Giambi / Arod disaster signing. Don't believe the hype! It's fools gold Yankees fans.
12 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2019 - 11:11AM #2
newinn
Posts: 34,043

95 threads on this. Couldn't you have posted in one of them?


12 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2019 - 11:36AM #3
cleanuphtr12
Posts: 1,241

Jan 4, 2019 -- 10:03AM, batteyanks wrote:

Rarely (if ever) does adding a big-name, big-ego free agent to a young club, or any club, result in championship-level improvement. It's usually a PR ploy to sell tickets. Machado, who has nowhere near the offensive potential or ceiling as Arod, Pujols, Cabrera or Stanton had at their paydays, and has never shown close to the ability to hit 40+ HR's and hit .330, also brings with him a history of lazy, self-centered, hotdogging that will never sit well with Yankees fans. When you add ingredients like this to young tems with raw talent, you spoil the chemistry. Look at the effect that Sanchez's lack of hustle and poor attitude has had on Gleyber Torres for example (and Sanchez was home-grown). The truth is that not only will Machado not make the team noticeably better (he's a mediocre SS), the history of the big-name free-agents signings since 2000 has told us that Machado is almost guaranteed to make the team worse. I'm hoping Cashman is begging Steinbrenner to let them pass on another Giambi / Arod disaster signing. Don't believe the hype! It's fools gold Yankees fans.



He plays great defense at 3B, he gets on base and hits with RISP.  There's no move that guarantees a championship.  Adding good players improves your chances.  



Also worth noting that the Sox won in 2018 largely because of the addition of JD Martinez.

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12 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2019 - 1:08PM #4
Stewie
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He would fill a need, though. The Yankees' roster is currently devoid of lazy, egocentric, arrogant prima donnas who play dirty, with no consideration for anyone but themselves.  Yes, we need to fill that hole and Machado would be the perfect fit.

12 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2019 - 2:17PM #5
1956yanks
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In my years of following this team I have also followed Machado's career (as we all have with players who play a bunch of games vs the Yankees each year).  I never saw him as lazy, a thug or a non-team player.  He was just another guy doing his job.  His comments were a bit odd in that his play never showed him to be someone who didn't hustle.  Maybe he was just referring to the fact that you shouldn't tear down the first base line on every ball put into play, even Gardner goes at about 75% on easy balls hit to the right side.  Is he worth all of that money?  Who is?  It seems to be the going rate these days, the Yankees could have a billion dollaer payroll and still turn a profit.  He wouldn't be a bad signing.  The 'is he a clubhouse guy?' debate is a bit ridiculous - I have never heard of him being a clubhouse cancer for the 7 years he's been in the league, nothing wrong with going out there with a bit of an attitude either.  Oh, and Harper would be a nice pickup too!

12 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2019 - 2:26PM #6
cleanuphtr12
Posts: 1,241

Jan 4, 2019 -- 2:17PM, 1956yanks wrote:


In my years of following this team I have also followed Machado's career (as we all have with players who play a bunch of games vs the Yankees each year).  I never saw him as lazy, a thug or a non-team player.  He was just another guy doing his job.  His comments were a bit odd in that his play never showed him to be someone who didn't hustle.  Maybe he was just referring to the fact that you shouldn't tear down the first base line on every ball put into play, even Gardner goes at about 75% on easy balls hit to the right side.  Is he worth all of that money?  Who is?  It seems to be the going rate these days, the Yankees could have a billion dollaer payroll and still turn a profit.  He wouldn't be a bad signing.  The 'is he a clubhouse guy?' debate is a bit ridiculous - I have never heard of him being a clubhouse cancer for the 7 years he's been in the league, nothing wrong with going out there with a bit of an attitude either.  Oh, and Harper would be a nice pickup too!




Agreed.  Some of the "dirty" stuff was publicized, but the "not Johnny Hustle" comment has morphed him into being a clubhouse cancer who beats his dog and walks to 2nd base on a double in some people's minds.  It's gone a little over the top, in my opinion.

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12 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2019 - 2:44PM #7
Stewie
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Harper, 1st base, Yankee Stadium


Machado, who cares, Citizens Bank Park

12 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2019 - 2:44PM #8
thestraw44
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Given the fact that the Yankee fan base is torn between wanting the upgrade that Machado brings at 3rd and not wanting such a n insufferable personality potentially ruining chemistry in a young, impressionable clubhouse, it’s a huge risk for Hal. That’s most likely their thought process. They are trying to sell it to the fan base by giving him less yrs (prob half of what his agent is asking for) and Machados camp is trying to squeeze more bc I believe he really wants to play here. I hope he takes the longer contract somewhere else. Never have I seen so many fans against such a talented acquisition before and I believe ownership feels it too.

12 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2019 - 2:52PM #9
hampfan
Posts: 3,488

Jan 4, 2019 -- 2:44PM, thestraw44 wrote:


Given the fact that the Yankee fan base is torn between wanting the upgrade that Machado brings at 3rd and not wanting such a n insufferable personality potentially ruining chemistry in a young, impressionable clubhouse, it’s a huge risk for Hal. That’s most likely their thought process. They are trying to sell it to the fan base by giving him less yrs (prob half of what his agent is asking for) and Machados camp is trying to squeeze more bc I believe he really wants to play here. I hope he takes the longer contract somewhere else. Never have I seen so many fans against such a talented acquisition before and I believe ownership feels it too.




One can always hope you're right.

12 months ago  ::  Jan 04, 2019 - 5:31PM #10
jimwest
Posts: 2,216


Machado would look good in red pinstripes.

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