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6 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 3:48PM #41
NW
Posts: 13,163

Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:45PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:39PM, NW wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:03PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 1:46PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 1:02PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 10:50AM, craner7 wrote:

Democrats KNOW a barrier is needed in certain areas. But their hatred for Trump keeps them from doing what they should. President election next yr can't have Trump have his wall/barrier victory. Hope logical people see that . You trump haters won't




What victory can he declare? He promised many times that Mexico was going to pay for the wall. No matter how anyone wants to spin it, wall or no wall that's an epic failure by not keeping that promise.


The Democrats are for fencing in certain areas and I haven't heard one of them oppose a Tech-wall. But none of that has anything to do with Trump shutting down the government. 800,000 Federal workers and Farmers shouldn't be held hostage. Tarriffs are hurting Farmers and those same Framers are getting screwed again because they aren't getting their tariff relief checks. 




I'd  lve to hear Pelosi or Schumer say they would agree to a Tech wall. Never happen.




Pelosi: Good evening. I appreciate the opportunity to speak directly to the American people tonight about how we can end this shutdown and meet the needs of the American people.


Sadly, much of what we have heard from President Trump throughout this senseless shutdown has been full of misinformation and even malice.


The President has chosen fear. We want to start with the facts.


The fact is: On the very first day of this Congress, House Democrats passed Senate Republican legislation to re-open government and fund smart, effective border security solutions.


But the President is rejecting these bipartisan bills which would re-open government – over his obsession with forcing American taxpayers to waste billions of dollars on an expensive and ineffective wall – a wall he always promised Mexico would pay for!



He promised to keep government shutdown for 'months or years' – no matter whom it hurts. That's just plain wrong.


The fact is: We all agree we need to secure our borders, while honoring our values: we can build the infrastructure and roads at our ports of entry; we can install new technology to scan cars and trucks for drugs coming into our nation; we can hire the personnel we need to facilitate trade and immigration at the border; we can fund more innovation to detect unauthorized crossings.


The fact is: the women and children at the border are not a security threat, they are a humanitarian challenge – a challenge that President Trump's own cruel and counterproductive policies have only deepened.


And the fact is: President Trump must stop holding the American people hostage, must stop manufacturing a crisis, and must re-open the government.


Thank you.




She conveniently left out the building of a wall at places where it is needed and that has already been approved by Congress.




She addressed everything that was relevant. 




Relevant in your mind.  I think our national security is relevant and a wall is part of that security, as passed in bipartisan legislation.  Until she moves from her "not one penny" stance, there will be no agreement and the DemocRATS shouldn't be calling our national security irrelevant.

6 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 3:51PM #42
Max
Posts: 42,830

Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:45PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:42PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 1:52PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 1:05PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 11:36AM, bertram wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 11:20AM, craner7 wrote:

Exactly NW. And Oppose Trump Always Bobby of course it's only for certain areas. Also this was the main issue he ran he is very passionate about border security. He is sincere



Come off it!  Trump is a xenophobe and a bigot.  He long ago made it obvious who the "bad illegals" are and who the "good illegals" are.  The good ones are the ones he can exploit in his businesses.




As proof he's also making it harder for people to legally apply for US citizenship. I guess he wants to change the rules being people from Europe aren't coming here by the boatloads anymore. It's obvious to anyone that is paying attention that he and some in his base want to slow down the eventual browning of America. 




Always comes back to race. What color was Officer Singh? Can't have enough people like him come here. Legally and for the right reasons. 


To anyone paying attention is that most Americans want people to come here legally but for some reason Dems try to make it about race.




It comes down to race when it's called for. I could show past posts on here that say so much. But I don't want to embarrass anyone. Trump's words on the subject is further proof.


I'm paying attention and what I see is that those other people that are paying too much attention to Fox News don't seem to realize that immigrants that are coming here seeking asylum are doing so legally even if they are coming here in a caravan. 




Overwelming majority are coming for work which isn't grounds for asylum. 


Illegal immigration is wrong, plain and simple. Until the American people are convinced that we will stop future flows of illegal immigration we will make no progress on dealing with the millions of illegals who are here now,




The Trump made up national emergency is using those people coming here legally seeking asylum to fear monger by making up spit like they have sicknesses etc. Illegal immigration is wrong and the majority in both parties have been trying to address that. But a shutdown isn't the way to do it. It's not the Dems fault that the Cons that controlled the House didn't bring a vote on the immigration bill that both parties in the Senate passed and the same bill Obama was willing to sign.   

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6 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 3:53PM #43
NW
Posts: 13,163

Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:51PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:45PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:42PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 1:52PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 1:05PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 11:36AM, bertram wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 11:20AM, craner7 wrote:

Exactly NW. And Oppose Trump Always Bobby of course it's only for certain areas. Also this was the main issue he ran he is very passionate about border security. He is sincere



Come off it!  Trump is a xenophobe and a bigot.  He long ago made it obvious who the "bad illegals" are and who the "good illegals" are.  The good ones are the ones he can exploit in his businesses.




As proof he's also making it harder for people to legally apply for US citizenship. I guess he wants to change the rules being people from Europe aren't coming here by the boatloads anymore. It's obvious to anyone that is paying attention that he and some in his base want to slow down the eventual browning of America. 




Always comes back to race. What color was Officer Singh? Can't have enough people like him come here. Legally and for the right reasons. 


To anyone paying attention is that most Americans want people to come here legally but for some reason Dems try to make it about race.




It comes down to race when it's called for. I could show past posts on here that say so much. But I don't want to embarrass anyone. Trump's words on the subject is further proof.


I'm paying attention and what I see is that those other people that are paying too much attention to Fox News don't seem to realize that immigrants that are coming here seeking asylum are doing so legally even if they are coming here in a caravan. 




Overwelming majority are coming for work which isn't grounds for asylum. 


Illegal immigration is wrong, plain and simple. Until the American people are convinced that we will stop future flows of illegal immigration we will make no progress on dealing with the millions of illegals who are here now,




The Trump made up national emergency is using those people coming here legally seeking asylum to fear monger by making up spit like they have sicknesses etc. Illegal immigration is wrong and the majority in both parties have been trying to address that. But a shutdown isn't the way to do it. It's not the Dems fault that the Cons that controlled the House didn't bring a vote on the immigration bill that both parties in the Senate passed and the same bill Obama was willing to sign.   




You can't say they don't have sicknesses and then spew fake outrage when a couple of illegal immigrant kids die.

6 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 3:55PM #44
Max
Posts: 42,830

Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:48PM, NW wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:45PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:39PM, NW wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:03PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 1:46PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 1:02PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 10:50AM, craner7 wrote:

Democrats KNOW a barrier is needed in certain areas. But their hatred for Trump keeps them from doing what they should. President election next yr can't have Trump have his wall/barrier victory. Hope logical people see that . You trump haters won't




What victory can he declare? He promised many times that Mexico was going to pay for the wall. No matter how anyone wants to spin it, wall or no wall that's an epic failure by not keeping that promise.


The Democrats are for fencing in certain areas and I haven't heard one of them oppose a Tech-wall. But none of that has anything to do with Trump shutting down the government. 800,000 Federal workers and Farmers shouldn't be held hostage. Tarriffs are hurting Farmers and those same Framers are getting screwed again because they aren't getting their tariff relief checks. 




I'd  lve to hear Pelosi or Schumer say they would agree to a Tech wall. Never happen.




Pelosi: Good evening. I appreciate the opportunity to speak directly to the American people tonight about how we can end this shutdown and meet the needs of the American people.


Sadly, much of what we have heard from President Trump throughout this senseless shutdown has been full of misinformation and even malice.


The President has chosen fear. We want to start with the facts.


The fact is: On the very first day of this Congress, House Democrats passed Senate Republican legislation to re-open government and fund smart, effective border security solutions.


But the President is rejecting these bipartisan bills which would re-open government – over his obsession with forcing American taxpayers to waste billions of dollars on an expensive and ineffective wall – a wall he always promised Mexico would pay for!



He promised to keep government shutdown for 'months or years' – no matter whom it hurts. That's just plain wrong.


The fact is: We all agree we need to secure our borders, while honoring our values: we can build the infrastructure and roads at our ports of entry; we can install new technology to scan cars and trucks for drugs coming into our nation; we can hire the personnel we need to facilitate trade and immigration at the border; we can fund more innovation to detect unauthorized crossings.


The fact is: the women and children at the border are not a security threat, they are a humanitarian challenge – a challenge that President Trump's own cruel and counterproductive policies have only deepened.


And the fact is: President Trump must stop holding the American people hostage, must stop manufacturing a crisis, and must re-open the government.


Thank you.




She conveniently left out the building of a wall at places where it is needed and that has already been approved by Congress.




She addressed everything that was relevant. 




Relevant in your mind.  I think our national security is relevant and a wall is part of that security, as passed in bipartisan legislation.  Until she moves from her "not one penny" stance, there will be no agreement and the DemocRATS shouldn't be calling our national security irrelevant.




Get lost. Relevant as in regards to what had to be addressed at the time. Go seek attention somewhere else. 

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6 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 3:57PM #45
Max
Posts: 42,830

Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:53PM, NW wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:51PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:45PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:42PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 1:52PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 1:05PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 11:36AM, bertram wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 11:20AM, craner7 wrote:

Exactly NW. And Oppose Trump Always Bobby of course it's only for certain areas. Also this was the main issue he ran he is very passionate about border security. He is sincere



Come off it!  Trump is a xenophobe and a bigot.  He long ago made it obvious who the "bad illegals" are and who the "good illegals" are.  The good ones are the ones he can exploit in his businesses.




As proof he's also making it harder for people to legally apply for US citizenship. I guess he wants to change the rules being people from Europe aren't coming here by the boatloads anymore. It's obvious to anyone that is paying attention that he and some in his base want to slow down the eventual browning of America. 




Always comes back to race. What color was Officer Singh? Can't have enough people like him come here. Legally and for the right reasons. 


To anyone paying attention is that most Americans want people to come here legally but for some reason Dems try to make it about race.




It comes down to race when it's called for. I could show past posts on here that say so much. But I don't want to embarrass anyone. Trump's words on the subject is further proof.


I'm paying attention and what I see is that those other people that are paying too much attention to Fox News don't seem to realize that immigrants that are coming here seeking asylum are doing so legally even if they are coming here in a caravan. 




Overwelming majority are coming for work which isn't grounds for asylum. 


Illegal immigration is wrong, plain and simple. Until the American people are convinced that we will stop future flows of illegal immigration we will make no progress on dealing with the millions of illegals who are here now,




The Trump made up national emergency is using those people coming here legally seeking asylum to fear monger by making up spit like they have sicknesses etc. Illegal immigration is wrong and the majority in both parties have been trying to address that. But a shutdown isn't the way to do it. It's not the Dems fault that the Cons that controlled the House didn't bring a vote on the immigration bill that both parties in the Senate passed and the same bill Obama was willing to sign.   




You can't say they don't have sicknesses and then spew fake outrage when a couple of illegal immigrant kids die.




Really did those children die from small pox like some in the far right claimed that some people in the caravan had? 

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6 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 4:00PM #46
2BBobby
Posts: 3,912

Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:48PM, NW wrote:


 ...and the DemocRATS shouldn't be calling our national security irrelevant.




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Wow...didn't take long for you to reveal your true colors.

6 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 4:14PM #47
yank0428
Posts: 17,089

Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:51PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:45PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 3:42PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 1:52PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 1:05PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 11:36AM, bertram wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 11:20AM, craner7 wrote:

Exactly NW. And Oppose Trump Always Bobby of course it's only for certain areas. Also this was the main issue he ran he is very passionate about border security. He is sincere



Come off it!  Trump is a xenophobe and a bigot.  He long ago made it obvious who the "bad illegals" are and who the "good illegals" are.  The good ones are the ones he can exploit in his businesses.




As proof he's also making it harder for people to legally apply for US citizenship. I guess he wants to change the rules being people from Europe aren't coming here by the boatloads anymore. It's obvious to anyone that is paying attention that he and some in his base want to slow down the eventual browning of America. 




Always comes back to race. What color was Officer Singh? Can't have enough people like him come here. Legally and for the right reasons. 


To anyone paying attention is that most Americans want people to come here legally but for some reason Dems try to make it about race.




It comes down to race when it's called for. I could show past posts on here that say so much. But I don't want to embarrass anyone. Trump's words on the subject is further proof.


I'm paying attention and what I see is that those other people that are paying too much attention to Fox News don't seem to realize that immigrants that are coming here seeking asylum are doing so legally even if they are coming here in a caravan. 




Overwelming majority are coming for work which isn't grounds for asylum. 


Illegal immigration is wrong, plain and simple. Until the American people are convinced that we will stop future flows of illegal immigration we will make no progress on dealing with the millions of illegals who are here now,




The Trump made up national emergency is using those people coming here legally seeking asylum to fear monger by making up spit like they have sicknesses etc. Illegal immigration is wrong and the majority in both parties have been trying to address that. But a shutdown isn't the way to do it. It's not the Dems fault that the Cons that controlled the House didn't bring a vote on the immigration bill that both parties in the Senate passed and the same bill Obama was willing to sign.   




We don't even know how many illegals are here. We can't even count them. The Washington Post said it was an emergency. This is peoples opinion. One side says it's not the other says it is. How many die every year from heroin overdoes and all the fentanyl coming in.  It's a serious issue that never gets addressed. Both sides are at fault and have been for a long time. I get why Trump is doing this. He wants to force them to address it or it will be the same old story.


We simply cannot allow people to pour into the U.S., undetected, undocumented, unchecked and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently, lawfully to become immigrants in this country

6 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 4:19PM #48
craner7
Posts: 23,175
Don't see one freeking thing from you antitrumpers addressing the 180 reversal from democrats on the border issue. They sounded JUST LIKE TRUMP not long ago the hypocrisy is eye popping . Sadly people who do not follow politics like us don't know that.

Tech wall? Like a high tech electric fence? That would hurt kids. So what the hell is it? Something to notify agents illegals have already crossed?

Damn it...the president wants to stop a lot of bad stuff coming here illegally give him the money !!!! Democrats are the children here and I hope they pay for it.

The people trying to protect our border support the president that should be enough!l!!

And stop the here we go again RACISM BS
6 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 4:21PM #49
craner7
Posts: 23,175
They didn't read your Washington Post article....not what they want to hear Yank
6 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 4:22PM #50
2BBobby
Posts: 3,912

Jan 10, 2019 -- 4:19PM, craner7 wrote:


Sadly people who do not follow politics...




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You should be thankful for the people who do not follow politics. That's where the bulk of Trump's support comes from.

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