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7 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 5:07PM #61
Max
Posts: 42,830

Jan 10, 2019 -- 4:52PM, craner7 wrote:

It's hopeless here anyway. They are locked in with Schumer and Pelosi no matter what. Just open the govt and we'll negotiate the wall/barrier. I hope Trump knows what absolute bullspit that is ....Shame on them for deception.





What's hopeless here? You must mean not many are drinking the Trump Kool Aid. Argue your point if you have one. Deception? You mean like saying Mexico was going to pay for the wall. 

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7 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 5:08PM #62
2BBobby
Posts: 3,912

Jan 10, 2019 -- 5:03PM, craner7 wrote:

Sad to say but really think if war broke out with Russia or China some here like Bobby who will dump close friends if they support Trump.....would hope for American loses to blame Trump that's how illogically wrong some democrats hatred has become. To not support a barrier where especially needed because Trump wants it shows their ridiculous hatred.



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You're even dumber than I thought...Goober

7 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 5:11PM #63
yankoldfan
Posts: 7,331

The Blame for this shutdown lies 100% on the backs of the Republican controlled Senate, 100%... Mitch McConnel has no balls, donald has everyone of them in his fist squeezing them as hard as he can... Yet the R. are dumb enough get out of that grasp, the ship is going down, you'd think if they're not in trouble with broken laws they would run from him like running from the plague ?? I wonder just how many of the top dogs in this Senate are tied into some, not so lily white crimes themselves ?? It's been said that Mitch M. has ties to some Russian money, all that has come out about the Russians in the Mueller investigation it makes you wonder how deep has Russia penetrated our Government ??? 


Again, the Republican Senate holds the ball, and if donald has such a grip on them, they'll live to regret it when they come up for re-election...

7 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 5:11PM #64
newinn
Posts: 32,986

Jan 10, 2019 -- 5:03PM, craner7 wrote:

Sad to say but really think if war broke out with Russia or China some here like Bobby who will dump close friends if they support Trump.....would hope for American loses to blame Trump that's how illogically wrong some democrats hatred has become. To not support a barrier where especially needed because Trump wants it shows their ridiculous hatred.



If war broke out would you still be praying for and asking God to bless Putin?

7 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 5:12PM #65
Max
Posts: 42,830

Jan 10, 2019 -- 5:03PM, craner7 wrote:

Sad to say but really think if war broke out with Russia or China some here like Bobby who will dump close friends if they support Trump.....would hope for American loses to blame Trump that's how illogically wrong some democrats hatred has become. To not support a barrier where especially needed because Trump wants it shows their ridiculous hatred.





Who said that?

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7 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 5:15PM #66
Max
Posts: 42,830

Jan 10, 2019 -- 5:11PM, yankoldfan wrote:


The Blame for this shutdown lies 100% on the backs of the Republican controlled Senate, 100%... Mitch McConnel has no balls, 




I know Trump gave his wife a job. But does he have to be so subservient

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7 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 6:23PM #67
Based Boardroomjimmy
Posts: 5,493

democrats would see the country driven off the side of the cliff than negotiate on border security. Trump should just come out and say medicare for all in exchange for his border security and immigration reform. Make them say no to that.

7 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 7:07PM #68
MajorYankFan
Posts: 32,868

Even Fox Fake News shocked by President Trump’s lies about the border wall


Even Fox News host Neil Cavuto was perplexed by the president’s reversal of his campaign promise.


The host then played all of the times candidate and president Trump riled up his supporters by talking about Mexico paying for the well.


“We have digital footage,” Cavuto joked, pointing out that in an era where every statement made by a public official lives forever, it’s harder to lie.



But that won't stop Lying Donnie and his conobots from lying


even harder, especially about Open Borders Donnie being tough


on national security.


Exhibit A  Open Borders Donnie being tough on illegal immigration by


being a lawbreaking employer...........


7 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 7:25PM #69
yank0428
Posts: 17,170

Jan 10, 2019 -- 4:53PM, Max wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 4:41PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 10, 2019 -- 4:21PM, craner7 wrote:

They didn't read your Washington Post article....not what they want to hear Yank



Doesn't fit the narrative. 


 Chris Cuomo doesn't either.


“He has his right to make the argument to the American people,” Cuomo responded. “And by the way, wanting barriers along the border is not propaganda. It’s not immoral. It’s not wrong.”


 The Dems and the lib media must be in a group chat by invite only. Love how they get the word for the day and all use it. Manufactered was the word for this.See it a;ll the time.  No debate. They are right and anybody who disagrees is ignorant.a racist or both . You can see it on here. The world we live in now.No debate.




I guess they forgot to send me the memo. What's the word of the day? I've seen the Cons get the word of the day from the Con crazy store many times when "Obamacare was getting shoved down their throats" "deep state" and "fake news" etc...


Who's against a secure border? If people don't want to be linked to racism they shouldn't make racist comments like Trump has made. Disagreements don't make anyone ignorant, just those people that believed Trump when he says that Mexico is going to pay for the wall." 




They change it up every few days. The other day it was immoral. Your in favor of the wall Max so your immoral. Dems say dumb things to.


 So because Trump didn't keep his promise his base is ignorant, Can the same be said for those who believed you could keep your doctor and your premiums wont go up?


 Have you heard what these new progressives have said along with some other dolts in the party who want to abolish ICE, support sanctuary cities and in favor of catch and release. I'd say they aren't  for a very secure border. They guestimate at the very least we have over 11 million people here illegally . How high does it have to go? It's insane already.


Trump the racist brought up giving citizenship to 1.8 dreamers. 


 Hers what some other racists said.


Chuck Schumer


“Illegal immigration is wrong, plain and simple. Until the American people are convinced that we will stop future flows of illegal immigration we will make no progress on dealing with the millions of illegals who are here now,” Schumer said.


Barak Obama who obviously was against the browning of America.


“We simply cannot allow people to pour into the U.S., undetected, undocumented, unchecked and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently, lawfully to become immigrants in this country” — 2005, Senator Barack Obama.


He sounds like Donald Trump, and throughout the years, a lot of Democrats have talked like that but when it comes down to doing something about it? Never, ever happens.

7 months ago  ::  Jan 10, 2019 - 9:25PM #70
craner7
Posts: 23,298
I said he sounds like democrats did few yrs ago ..response? No Obama didn't say Mexico paying for wall . It's unreal the hypocrisy and using horrible dirty politics to go against something to help the nation just so Trump doesn't have a campaign win for 2020.

Trump is a real jerk to many even to me at times but this fight is in his heart and he's not bending he's sick of Americans being killed by some illegals it wouldn't have happened if they weren't here illegally.
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