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Yankees are closing in on a two-year deal with infielder DJ LeMahieu
7 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2019 - 3:27PM #51
deduce
Posts: 25

Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:08PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:07PM, deduce wrote:


He's an excellent defensive player with an adequate bat. A good addition as long as the expectations for hitting aren't too high. 


He has a career BA of .330 with a .835 OPS at Coors Field and .264/.673 everywhere else. Last year, those splits were .317/.793 at Coors and .229/.698 away. There are plenty of big bats in the lineup, so as long as he does his job the team is better off. Not sure what his role will be when Didi returns, though.




He did win a batting title. Has career .298 BA. Lets see what he does out of Coors. 




His 8 year history outside of Coors is a pretty good sample size. He had a monster year in 2016 when he won the batting title hitting .348, but even that year, his BA was nearly 100 pts higher at Coors and his OPS was 300 pts higher. Tulo hit .340 his last full year in Colorado, then .239, .254 and .249 his three years in Toronto. I'm very happy with the signing, I think other fans will be also, as long as they're not expecting his Coors inflated career numbers in New York. If he does hit .298, great. I don't expect it, but would love it if he does.

7 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2019 - 3:29PM #52
cleanuphtr12
Posts: 1,049

Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:27PM, deduce wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:08PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:07PM, deduce wrote:


He's an excellent defensive player with an adequate bat. A good addition as long as the expectations for hitting aren't too high. 


He has a career BA of .330 with a .835 OPS at Coors Field and .264/.673 everywhere else. Last year, those splits were .317/.793 at Coors and .229/.698 away. There are plenty of big bats in the lineup, so as long as he does his job the team is better off. Not sure what his role will be when Didi returns, though.




He did win a batting title. Has career .298 BA. Lets see what he does out of Coors. 




His 8 year history outside of Coors is a pretty good sample size. He had a monster year in 2016 when he won the batting title hitting .348, but even that year, his BA was nearly 100 pts higher at Coors and his OPS was 300 pts higher. Tulo hit .340 his last full year in Colorado, then .239, .254 and .249 his three years in Toronto. I'm very happy with the signing, I think other fans will be also, as long as they're not expecting his Coors inflated career numbers in New York. If he does hit .298, great. I don't expect it, but would love it if he does.




My main concern with the deal is that it feels like a bit of an overpay for what he is and what he's expected to do here.  Added to the likelihood that it takes us out on Machado, and its a little frustrating.  Maybe another team was closing in on a deal and Cashman felt he needed to move, but it still is a bit annoying.

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7 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2019 - 3:35PM #53
deduce
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Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:29PM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:27PM, deduce wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:08PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:07PM, deduce wrote:


He's an excellent defensive player with an adequate bat. A good addition as long as the expectations for hitting aren't too high. 


He has a career BA of .330 with a .835 OPS at Coors Field and .264/.673 everywhere else. Last year, those splits were .317/.793 at Coors and .229/.698 away. There are plenty of big bats in the lineup, so as long as he does his job the team is better off. Not sure what his role will be when Didi returns, though.




He did win a batting title. Has career .298 BA. Lets see what he does out of Coors. 




His 8 year history outside of Coors is a pretty good sample size. He had a monster year in 2016 when he won the batting title hitting .348, but even that year, his BA was nearly 100 pts higher at Coors and his OPS was 300 pts higher. Tulo hit .340 his last full year in Colorado, then .239, .254 and .249 his three years in Toronto. I'm very happy with the signing, I think other fans will be also, as long as they're not expecting his Coors inflated career numbers in New York. If he does hit .298, great. I don't expect it, but would love it if he does.




My main concern with the deal is that it feels like a bit of an overpay for what he is and what he's expected to do here.  Added to the likelihood that it takes us out on Machado, and its a little frustrating.  Maybe another team was closing in on a deal and Cashman felt he needed to move, but it still is a bit annoying.




Good point. I agree it does seem like a bit much. If you consider that it makes him one of the top 5 highest paid 2nd basemen in MLB, it doesn't look as good in that light.

7 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2019 - 3:47PM #54
qimqam
Posts: 469

Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:12PM, laurenf2 wrote:


As I checked stats....


DJ LeMahieu has been worth 17.7 WARP since 2015.


Here is how some other second basemen have produced in the same time frame:


Jose Altuve - 16.4 WARP


Brian Dozier - 14.8 WARP


Ian Kinsler - 13.3 WARP


Daniel Murphy - 12.0 WARP


Robinson Cano - 11.1 WARP


LeMahieu has been the best.




Oh good ... we probably just picked him up as a sign and trade for Altuve!!!!!!


Who the hell are you people kidding !?!?!? the guy sux !!!!!!! and WAR WARP dWAR and all that other subjective over defensively weighted stats  are bull ****!!!!! I wouldnt take this turd over anyone on that list and not even close!!!!!!


He's a ****ing .673 hitter away from coors field and switching leagues !!!!!!!! He will have a sub .700 ops for the Yankees ... mark it down !!!!


And by the way ... he's not a utility player !!!!!!! hes a 2nd base man that has played 3rd a few time in his career and never since 2014 !!!!!!

7 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2019 - 3:51PM #55
qimqam
Posts: 469

Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:27PM, deduce wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:08PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:07PM, deduce wrote:


He's an excellent defensive player with an adequate bat. A good addition as long as the expectations for hitting aren't too high. 


He has a career BA of .330 with a .835 OPS at Coors Field and .264/.673 everywhere else. Last year, those splits were .317/.793 at Coors and .229/.698 away. There are plenty of big bats in the lineup, so as long as he does his job the team is better off. Not sure what his role will be when Didi returns, though.




He did win a batting title. Has career .298 BA. Lets see what he does out of Coors. 




His 8 year history outside of Coors is a pretty good sample size. He had a monster year in 2016 when he won the batting title hitting .348, but even that year, his BA was nearly 100 pts higher at Coors and his OPS was 300 pts higher. Tulo hit .340 his last full year in Colorado, then .239, .254 and .249 his three years in Toronto. I'm very happy with the signing, I think other fans will be also, as long as they're not expecting his Coors inflated career numbers in New York. If he does hit .298, great. I don't expect it, but would love it if he does.




.298 !!!!! He has a .264 career road avg (away from coors field) and he is switching leagues.


Expect him to hit between .220 and .260 ... best guess is .240

7 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2019 - 3:52PM #56
yankoldfan
Posts: 7,390

Jan 11, 2019 -- 1:23PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 1:13PM, Max wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 12:47PM, 2BBobby wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 12:42PM, MajorYankFan wrote:



Yankees are closing in on a two-year deal with infielder DJ LeMahieu


LeMahieu is entering the market at age-30 and has rated well defensively at an important position. There’s reason to believe his bat is better than some metrics show. 



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VERY interesting. Really like him...question is how does the IF shape up now?




Sounds like the Yankees are moving away from Machado. It also makes me think that the Yankees have a trade already in place for Andujar. 




Hopefully to Harper. If they are moving away from Machado and trade Andujar who plays 3rd? LeMahieu is GG 2nd baseman. Torres to SS? 




If Machado is out Andujar is not going anyplace... Maybe Harper and try him at first base ?? The LeMahieu deal really doesn't make a lot of sense to me. especially at 2@$24M ???

7 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2019 - 3:57PM #57
Kmer2
Posts: 95

Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:47PM, qimqam wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 3:12PM, laurenf2 wrote:


As I checked stats....


DJ LeMahieu has been worth 17.7 WARP since 2015.


Here is how some other second basemen have produced in the same time frame:


Jose Altuve - 16.4 WARP


Brian Dozier - 14.8 WARP


Ian Kinsler - 13.3 WARP


Daniel Murphy - 12.0 WARP


Robinson Cano - 11.1 WARP


LeMahieu has been the best.




Oh good ... we probably just picked him up as a sign and trade for Altuve!!!!!!


Who the hell are you people kidding !?!?!? the guy sux !!!!!!! and WAR WARP dWAR and all that other subjective over defensively weighted stats  are bull ****!!!!! I wouldnt take this turd over anyone on that list and not even close!!!!!!


He's a ****ing .673 hitter away from coors field and switching leagues !!!!!!!! He will have a sub .700 ops for the Yankees ... mark it down !!!!


And by the way ... he's not a utility player !!!!!!! hes a 2nd base man that has played 3rd a few time in his career and never since 2014 !!!!!!






WARP is supposed to be WAR (Wins over replacement player) and are true indicator of just how much a player is worth vs. others at his position.



Would I love Altuve?  Come on!! Who would possibly say no?



But...LeMahieu, at least at Coors, was an All-Star/GG second baseman.



He is swithching leagues, but he is coming to play in a "hitters haven" and a big part of today's announcements regarding LeMahieu stated he is coming in to be a utility player/jack of all trades, so whatever offense he brings to the table will be a plus.



He is, and has been a very, VERY good baseball player, and now he is a Yankee.



We all have differing viewpoints.



I participated in a thread on here last winter that debated whether MAriano Rivera deserves to be on the HOF ballot.


I was in another where someone debated whether Thurman Munson would have been able to play with/on the Torre dynasty teams. (Of course he could have!!)



Sorry you don't care for this player.



All indicators point to him being a very good baseball player.

kmer2

Kyle Merritt
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7 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2019 - 3:58PM #58
Max
Posts: 42,830

Jan 11, 2019 -- 1:23PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 1:13PM, Max wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 12:47PM, 2BBobby wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 12:42PM, MajorYankFan wrote:



Yankees are closing in on a two-year deal with infielder DJ LeMahieu


LeMahieu is entering the market at age-30 and has rated well defensively at an important position. There’s reason to believe his bat is better than some metrics show. 



~~~~~~~~~


VERY interesting. Really like him...question is how does the IF shape up now?




Sounds like the Yankees are moving away from Machado. It also makes me think that the Yankees have a trade already in place for Andujar. 




Hopefully to Harper. If they are moving away from Machado and trade Andujar who plays 3rd? LeMahieu is GG 2nd baseman. Torres to SS? 




LeMahieu also plays 3B. I'd like to see Harper playing CF for the Yankees, but it looks like the Yankees are going to pass on an opportunity to sign top shelf players like Harper and Manny. 

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7 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2019 - 4:02PM #59
Max
Posts: 42,830

Jan 11, 2019 -- 1:33PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 1:31PM, jimwest wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 1:25PM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 1:20PM, 2BBobby wrote:


Jan 11, 2019 -- 1:18PM, cleanuphtr12 wrote:


LeMahieu is likely to rotate around the infield as a utility guy.




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At $12M annually?





That is the current rumbling.




He has played virtually his entire career at second base. Out of 892 games, he has played less than 6% of those at a position other than second. Unclear then how the Yankees would consider him some super utility man.


And for $12m bucks, it sounds like he will be the starting 2nd sacker until Didi returns.




Find out how good Torres is at SS.




Then why did they sign Tulo? I can't figure this out. lol! 

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7 months ago  ::  Jan 11, 2019 - 4:04PM #60
dixieyank
Posts: 5,596

For those complaining about the 2@$24m.....look at the market.


Brian Dozier just got $9m/1yr deal from DC. Schoop got $7.5m from Minny. 


I suppose they could have signed the older Daniel Murphy, who is a very good bat but not really great defender. He got $10m,$8m,$12m w/$6m buyout, plus incentives.

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