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John Wetteland
11 months ago  ::  Jan 16, 2019 - 5:38PM #11
Kmer2
Posts: 95

Jan 15, 2019 -- 4:15PM, 2BBobby wrote:


"...if, he is, in fact, found guilty."


Realize I'm sticking my neck out here, but at this point it is an accusation. If he in fact did what he is accused of, then he obviously should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.


Don't know how many followed the story of Oregon State pitcher Luke Heimlich. He was named the 2018 Collegiate Pitcher of the Year and likely would've been a #1 draft pick in this past draft until the story surfaced that he'd been accused and pled guilty to a charge of abusing his 6 year old niece when he was 15. Now, of course, he is a pariah.


Sad, tragic story...





We had a similar situation here.


Someone here in town that everyone knows, churchgoer, youth volunteer etc.


Got hurt very badly by accusations and it was ALL OVER our local papers (Don't know if it hit the national news) but as it turns out, the accusations were from a troubled man who had a troubled childhood and blamed a drug habit and arrest on child abuse.


At any rate, the accused was completely exonerated and he still suffered because he was judged for crimes that never happened in the press and in gossip.


There has to be a credible reason for going forward on Wetteland. There has to be a credible victim.


Now..if he truly did commit the crimes, and this is verified through his trial, I am all for locking him up for the rest of his life.


Not all who are accused are innocent, so I am not a "bleeding heart" fanboy here.


Jusut wanted everyone to know that this sort of thing can be possible.


We will all find out real soon.


If he is guilty in even the smallest possible way, then I pray for his victim, and I pray that it can never happen again.

kmer2

Kyle Merritt
Member since 2002
11 months ago  ::  Jan 16, 2019 - 5:43PM #12
Kmer2
Posts: 95

Jan 16, 2019 -- 5:38PM, Kmer2 wrote:


Jan 15, 2019 -- 4:15PM, 2BBobby wrote:


"...if, he is, in fact, found guilty."


Realize I'm sticking my neck out here, but at this point it is an accusation. If he in fact did what he is accused of, then he obviously should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.


Don't know how many followed the story of Oregon State pitcher Luke Heimlich. He was named the 2018 Collegiate Pitcher of the Year and likely would've been a #1 draft pick in this past draft until the story surfaced that he'd been accused and pled guilty to a charge of abusing his 6 year old niece when he was 15. Now, of course, he is a pariah.


Sad, tragic story...





We had a similar situation here.


Someone here in town that everyone knows, churchgoer, youth volunteer etc.


Got hurt very badly by accusations and it was ALL OVER our local papers (Don't know if it hit the national news) but as it turns out, the accusations were from a troubled man who had a troubled childhood and blamed a drug habit and arrest on child abuse.


At any rate, the accused was completely exonerated and he still suffered because he was judged for crimes that never happened in the press and in gossip.


There has to be a credible reason for going forward on Wetteland. There has to be a credible victim.


Now..if he truly did commit the crimes, and this is verified through his trial, I am all for locking him up for the rest of his life.


Not all who are accused are innocent, so I am not a "bleeding heart" fanboy here.


Jusut wanted everyone to know that this sort of thing can be possible.


We will all find out real soon.


If he is guilty in even the smallest possible way, then I pray for his victim, and I pray that it can never happen again.




Remember..there was a very famous case years ago that WAS national news:



Tawana Brawley


She accused five or six very respected men of rape and horrific abuses and it turned out to be all one big fabrication to cover up for a night out of partying with her friends, and she was so afraid of her mother's wrath, she concocted this lie.


It brought in celebrities, and put Al Sharpton on the map as it became a racial issue and hotbed and it was ALL a lie.


One of the men accused was a fther, husband, and police officer.


He lost his job before the story was proven false, lost his family during the two years it tokk to clear up, and he commited suicide.


Again..there has to be some form of credibility to these charges so we will find out son enough but you know the saying "Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law"

kmer2

Kyle Merritt
Member since 2002
11 months ago  ::  Jan 16, 2019 - 6:04PM #13
Kmer2
Posts: 95

Jan 16, 2019 -- 12:32PM, TonyG4 wrote:


Yes I got up this morning and saw this on the front page of the NY Post. This made me sick to my stomach. disgusting. If true after, all the facts are in, he should go right to jail. Another example of how you should not hold anyone in sports as a role model, when you do not know them on a  personal basis. This is the Post article. And it should be on this forum for all to see and read. It's sickening


nypost.com/2019/01/15/ex-yankee-john-wet...





Wetteland now brings the 1990's Yankee's "Hall of Shame" number to four (4)



Back in early 90's, Mel Hall was arrested for having a 12 or 13 year old girlfriend, and was arrested in Fairfield CT


I used to seem him driving around in his Lamborghini, then a black Acura  



Then..we all have heard about Chad Curtis. He is still in prison, and I don't remember how much time he was given.


Last one that I am aware of besides Wetteland and the two I wrote about is Knoblauch.


He went to prison on sex related charges too. I don't remember what thyey were, and I don't care about him enough to look it up.


Was there something in the water in the Yankee clubhouse?


kmer2

Kyle Merritt
Member since 2002
11 months ago  ::  Jan 16, 2019 - 6:14PM #14
laurenf2
Posts: 9,401

This incident similar to Jerry Sandusky in Penn State...As evidence are compiled, if guilty..throw the book at him.  Nothing worst than a child abuser....an innocent child not being able to defend themself.

11 months ago  ::  Jan 16, 2019 - 6:34PM #15
Kmer2
Posts: 95

Jan 16, 2019 -- 6:14PM, laurenf2 wrote:


This incident similar to Jerry Sandusky in Penn State...As evidence are compiled, if guilty..throw the book at him.  Nothing worst than a child abuser....an innocent child not being able to defend themself.




Amen!



We should all take a moment and pray this never happens to another child ever again!

kmer2

Kyle Merritt
Member since 2002
11 months ago  ::  Jan 16, 2019 - 10:52PM #16
jimwest
Posts: 2,203

Jan 16, 2019 -- 6:04PM, Kmer2 wrote:


Jan 16, 2019 -- 12:32PM, TonyG4 wrote:


Yes I got up this morning and saw this on the front page of the NY Post. This made me sick to my stomach. disgusting. If true after, all the facts are in, he should go right to jail. Another example of how you should not hold anyone in sports as a role model, when you do not know them on a  personal basis. This is the Post article. And it should be on this forum for all to see and read. It's sickening


nypost.com/2019/01/15/ex-yankee-john-wet...





Wetteland now brings the 1990's Yankee's "Hall of Shame" number to four (4)



Back in early 90's, Mel Hall was arrested for having a 12 or 13 year old girlfriend, and was arrested in Fairfield CT


I used to seem him driving around in his Lamborghini, then a black Acura  



Then..we all have heard about Chad Curtis. He is still in prison, and I don't remember how much time he was given.


Last one that I am aware of besides Wetteland and the two I wrote about is Knoblauch.


He went to prison on sex related charges too. I don't remember what thyey were, and I don't care about him enough to look it up.


Was there something in the water in the Yankee clubhouse?




Is this implying there was something with the Yankees that led to these men's troubles? All of them had careers of 12-13 years, and played for other teams much longer than the Yanks.


Wetteland (career 12 years, NYY 2), Hall (career 13 years, NYY 4), Knoblach (career 12 years, NYY 4), and Curtis ( career 12 years, NYY 3). With 29 other MLB teams, surely it is very probable that there are plenty of other teams players who have had legal/criminal issues over the past 30+ years.


Those don't get the overall negative media publicity that anyone who ever was a Yankee gets. It seems that a player can have a long career, but if he was on the Yankees for a few months, and gets into trouble, he is always cited as a "former Yankee". 

11 months ago  ::  Jan 17, 2019 - 12:14AM #17
EvilEmpire27
Posts: 707
More shame brought to the franchise.   Downward spiralin since 04.  Win in the regular season,  blow in October.
11 months ago  ::  Jan 17, 2019 - 12:38AM #18
laurenf2
Posts: 9,401

Jan 17, 2019 -- 12:14AM, EvilEmpire27 wrote:

More shame brought to the franchise. Downward spiralin since 04. Win in the regular season, blow in October.



Where is the shame? Yankees didn't draft or develop him. Out of his 12 year career, he pitched 95-96 with Yankees. So those years with Dodgers, Expos and Rangers don't count.  In 2005, Wetteland was inducted into the Texas Rangers Hall of Fame


You are being ridiculous.  

11 months ago  ::  Jan 17, 2019 - 10:00AM #19
Lulu
Posts: 3,341
Three words. Pervert and animal.Burn in hell.
11 months ago  ::  Jan 17, 2019 - 4:38PM #20
Kmer2
Posts: 95

Jan 16, 2019 -- 10:52PM, jimwest wrote:


Jan 16, 2019 -- 6:04PM, Kmer2 wrote:


Jan 16, 2019 -- 12:32PM, TonyG4 wrote:


Yes I got up this morning and saw this on the front page of the NY Post. This made me sick to my stomach. disgusting. If true after, all the facts are in, he should go right to jail. Another example of how you should not hold anyone in sports as a role model, when you do not know them on a  personal basis. This is the Post article. And it should be on this forum for all to see and read. It's sickening


nypost.com/2019/01/15/ex-yankee-john-wet...





Wetteland now brings the 1990's Yankee's "Hall of Shame" number to four (4)



Back in early 90's, Mel Hall was arrested for having a 12 or 13 year old girlfriend, and was arrested in Fairfield CT


I used to seem him driving around in his Lamborghini, then a black Acura  



Then..we all have heard about Chad Curtis. He is still in prison, and I don't remember how much time he was given.


Last one that I am aware of besides Wetteland and the two I wrote about is Knoblauch.


He went to prison on sex related charges too. I don't remember what thyey were, and I don't care about him enough to look it up.


Was there something in the water in the Yankee clubhouse?




Is this implying there was something with the Yankees that led to these men's troubles? All of them had careers of 12-13 years, and played for other teams much longer than the Yanks.


Wetteland (career 12 years, NYY 2), Hall (career 13 years, NYY 4), Knoblach (career 12 years, NYY 4), and Curtis ( career 12 years, NYY 3). With 29 other MLB teams, surely it is very probable that there are plenty of other teams players who have had legal/criminal issues over the past 30+ years.


Those don't get the overall negative media publicity that anyone who ever was a Yankee gets. It seems that a player can have a long career, but if he was on the Yankees for a few months, and gets into trouble, he is always cited as a "former Yankee". 





Yet again, I sense hostility/argumentativeness in your words.



Hope I am wrong.



was I implying that there was something wrong with the Yankees?



Of course not, but I shouldn't have to explain that.



You have never been in a conversation where you punctuate a statement with some sarcasm?



I was just noting nthat the Yankees had four players in the 90's that are now sex criminals.


Again..I shouldn't have to explain that.


kmer2

Kyle Merritt
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