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Dombrowski fired...already
2 months ago  ::  Sep 10, 2019 - 3:41PM #51
Rob
Posts: 320

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Hows he a leftover? He's a great player. Won a MVP. Do you not see a great player?  If he goes free agent Cashman would be a fool not to look into signing a young great player who plays every day. plays hard, is not a show boat and has 5 tools. He's not Ellsbury. He's one of the top players in the game and if you don't see that I don't know what your watching.


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He's a Red Sox ... that's what I see ... great player or not, he still plays for the Red Sox.  I'm sorry if that doesn't make sense to you ... but that's how I feel.  Felt the same way with Johnny Damon until he actually put on the pinstripes ... once I see them in pinstripes them I'm okay ... but before that they are a disgusting Red Sox and I can't say a good thing about them.  You're being very sensible, I'm not ... and I know it.


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LOL Mo. As long as you know. Thats a good thimng. 


 Remember where the Babe came from. I don't think it will happen but it would kill Sox fans to see him suiting up in pinstripes and sticking to them.


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That’s just an added bonus to the fantasy... it could be the curse of Mookie! The Red Sox won’t win another WS for another 100 years!


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Now that would be great.


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RS may well look to trade Betts in the off season as reports speculate he is looking at upwards of $30 mil in his final arbitration year.  Of course, he RS would never trade him to the Yankees (or, for that matter, any team that they think might "flip" him to NY).


But based on owner John Henry's comments RS will need to shed serious amounts of salary to be able to afford Mookie AND upgrade their pitching and that is even if Sale and Price afe both healthy next year.


Dombrowski led them to 3 straight AL East titles and a WS title.  But he leaves them in luxury tax hell.

2 months ago  ::  Sep 10, 2019 - 3:57PM #52
luvdayanks
Posts: 27,160

Sep 10, 2019 -- 2:24PM, Jon wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 1:28PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 11:16AM, Jon wrote:


If you're going to dump someone, do it well before the postseason.


I think Dombrowski was let go because of the gigantic contracts he gave to Price, Eovaldi and Sale.




Dombrowski doesn't  write the checks, Red Sox ownership  does. They would have to approve or disapprove any contracts. That's  not the reason he got fired.




No. Dombrowski is responsible. He is the one who chooses to retain someone or get someone new. That's the epitome of scouting.


www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/dave-do...


bleacherreport.com/articles/2852747-pric...





My point is Dombrowski didn't sign the checks so ownership  must have approved those deals, thus it wasn't the reason he got fired. Sure he chooses to keep, drop  or sign someone  WITH OWNERSHIP APPROVAL . I'm  sure he convinced Henry to sign off on those bloated contracts  because it would guarantee world championships  for years  to come. He  didn't get fired because he gave bad contracts  that ownership approved.

2 months ago  ::  Sep 10, 2019 - 4:58PM #53
Lola
Posts: 24,737

Sep 10, 2019 -- 3:57PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 2:24PM, Jon wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 1:28PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 11:16AM, Jon wrote:


If you're going to dump someone, do it well before the postseason.


I think Dombrowski was let go because of the gigantic contracts he gave to Price, Eovaldi and Sale.




Dombrowski doesn't  write the checks, Red Sox ownership  does. They would have to approve or disapprove any contracts. That's  not the reason he got fired.




No. Dombrowski is responsible. He is the one who chooses to retain someone or get someone new. That's the epitome of scouting.


www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/dave-do...


bleacherreport.com/articles/2852747-pric...





My point is Dombrowski didn't sign the checks so ownership  must have approved those deals, thus it wasn't the reason he got fired. Sure he chooses to keep, drop  or sign someone  WITH OWNERSHIP APPROVAL . I'm  sure he convinced Henry to sign off on those bloated contracts  because it would guarantee world championships  for years  to come. He  didn't get fired because he gave bad contracts  that ownership approved.




John Henry may have signed the checks... but he ain‘t going to take the blame! That’s what Dombrowski is for... you know somebody has to take the fall. There’s not a lot of loyalty up there in Beantown. Ask Terry Francona, Theo, John Farrell, Cherrington...

2 months ago  ::  Sep 10, 2019 - 5:27PM #54
luvdayanks
Posts: 27,160

Sep 10, 2019 -- 4:58PM, Lola wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 3:57PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 2:24PM, Jon wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 1:28PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 11:16AM, Jon wrote:


If you're going to dump someone, do it well before the postseason.


I think Dombrowski was let go because of the gigantic contracts he gave to Price, Eovaldi and Sale.




Dombrowski doesn't  write the checks, Red Sox ownership  does. They would have to approve or disapprove any contracts. That's  not the reason he got fired.




No. Dombrowski is responsible. He is the one who chooses to retain someone or get someone new. That's the epitome of scouting.


www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/dave-do...


bleacherreport.com/articles/2852747-pric...





My point is Dombrowski didn't sign the checks so ownership  must have approved those deals, thus it wasn't the reason he got fired. Sure he chooses to keep, drop  or sign someone  WITH OWNERSHIP APPROVAL . I'm  sure he convinced Henry to sign off on those bloated contracts  because it would guarantee world championships  for years  to come. He  didn't get fired because he gave bad contracts  that ownership approved.




John Henry may have signed the checks... but he ain‘t going to take the blame! That’s what Dombrowski is for... you know somebody has to take the fall. There’s not a lot of loyalty up there in Beantown. Ask Terry Francona, Theo, John Farrell, Cherrington...




Yeah, they'd sell their souls to the devil.

2 months ago  ::  Sep 10, 2019 - 8:27PM #55
Jon
Posts: 590

Sep 10, 2019 -- 5:27PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 4:58PM, Lola wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 3:57PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 2:24PM, Jon wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 1:28PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 10, 2019 -- 11:16AM, Jon wrote:


If you're going to dump someone, do it well before the postseason.


I think Dombrowski was let go because of the gigantic contracts he gave to Price, Eovaldi and Sale.




Dombrowski doesn't  write the checks, Red Sox ownership  does. They would have to approve or disapprove any contracts. That's  not the reason he got fired.




No. Dombrowski is responsible. He is the one who chooses to retain someone or get someone new. That's the epitome of scouting.


www.nbcsports.com/boston/red-sox/dave-do...


bleacherreport.com/articles/2852747-pric...





My point is Dombrowski didn't sign the checks so ownership  must have approved those deals, thus it wasn't the reason he got fired. Sure he chooses to keep, drop  or sign someone  WITH OWNERSHIP APPROVAL . I'm  sure he convinced Henry to sign off on those bloated contracts  because it would guarantee world championships  for years  to come. He  didn't get fired because he gave bad contracts  that ownership approved.




John Henry may have signed the checks... but he ain‘t going to take the blame! That’s what Dombrowski is for... you know somebody has to take the fall. There’s not a lot of loyalty up there in Beantown. Ask Terry Francona, Theo, John Farrell, Cherrington...




Yeah, they'd sell their souls to the devil.




Sources say it was Dombrowski's spending spree.


And also he's an a-h.


www.forbes.com/sites/anthonywitrado/2019...



boston.cbslocal.com/2019/09/09/red-sox-f...


The Red Sox obviously had the talent to win a World Series last year. But the offseason saw Craig Kimbrel and Joe Kelly depart without any replacements added. The early returns on the new contracts handed out to Chris Sale, Steve Pearce, and Nathan Eovaldi are not positive either.

2 months ago  ::  Sep 10, 2019 - 8:30PM #56
Jon
Posts: 590

It also seems Dombrowski refused to sign a short term extension, and demanded a long-term.

bleacherreport.com/articles/2853038-red-...

2 months ago  ::  Sep 11, 2019 - 8:48PM #57
JudgeandYankees
Posts: 85

Sep 9, 2019 -- 3:16PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Sep 9, 2019 -- 3:10PM, Lola wrote:


Sep 9, 2019 -- 3:06PM, hampfan wrote:


Sep 9, 2019 -- 2:41PM, bumper wrote:


Sep 9, 2019 -- 2:26PM, Carp wrote:




jd martinez ($23.75 mil) can opt out of his contract after this season as well so that could cost them as well if it goes in that direction.




Right- that has been in the news too.  I think he's crazy if he doesn't opt out.  He's the most productive hitter in the game.




yup he'd be nuts not to opt. having yet another great season. and while he can opt the next 2 years as well, his salary actually goes down in 2021 & 22 and he's not getting younger. he's better than either machado or harper though his age & being a DH only are strikes against him. would be thrilled to see him on another team next season.




Here's a fantasy: the Angels fire GM Eppler and hire Dombrowski, who in turn signs JD Martinez and, just to get back at the R Sox more, trades Trout to us for Frazier, Devi and--provided we sock in a few more million--Stanton, who suddenly sees the California light. Okay, I admit it: already winter dreaming.




My fantasy is Stanton and Frazier for Mookie!




I don't want any leftover Red Sox in pinstripes.




Johnny Damon worked out well for us.  Hate the laundry not the player (in some cases)

1 month ago  ::  Sep 12, 2019 - 6:43AM #58
yankoldfan
Posts: 8,265

Teams hire GM's to do the business end of the team, Dombrowski was giving his advise to the owner and owners trust the GM they hire to do a job, but when it starts going bad, even though owners write the checks, it's the GM that has to take the hits if they don't work out... Boston had a lot of success with Dombrowski but when they stopped winning things change in a hurry and the owner can't justify the cost, the GM is the first to go...

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