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2 months ago  ::  Sep 15, 2019 - 4:41PM #1
chl45
Posts: 1,209
When do they actually vote for the MVP? The reason I ask is Trout is out for the rest of the season needing season ending surgery on the ball of his foot. He has been out for about a week already. If he misses the next two weeks will that give DJ or Bregman or even Torres time to compile more numbers to get closer to his and maybe swing some voters? Or, have they already voted or will do so in a few days?
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2 months ago  ::  Sep 15, 2019 - 4:43PM #2
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 77,612

I believe they vote after the regular seaason is over.

2 months ago  ::  Sep 15, 2019 - 4:50PM #3
chl45
Posts: 1,209

Sep 15, 2019 -- 4:43PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


I believe they vote after the regular seaason is over.




Hope so. Man, do I hope DJ or Torres get really hot. For other obvious reasons also, but I would love one of them to get it. Not Bregman. He needs to go Alaskan on us.

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
2 months ago  ::  Sep 15, 2019 - 9:22PM #4
BATS
Posts: 88

Sep 15, 2019 -- 4:41PM, chl45 wrote:

When do they actually vote for the MVP? The reason I ask is Trout is out for the rest of the season needing season ending surgery on the ball of his foot. He has been out for about a week already. If he misses the next two weeks will that give DJ or Bregman or even Torres time to compile more numbers to get closer to his and maybe swing some voters? Or, have they already voted or will do so in a few days?



Is there a sport that votes for a season's MVP during the regular season?

2 months ago  ::  Sep 16, 2019 - 11:15AM #5
felipe27point5
Posts: 2,645

Sep 15, 2019 -- 4:41PM, chl45 wrote:

When do they actually vote for the MVP? The reason I ask is Trout is out for the rest of the season needing season ending surgery on the ball of his foot. He has been out for about a week already. If he misses the next two weeks will that give DJ or Bregman or even Torres time to compile more numbers to get closer to his and maybe swing some voters? Or, have they already voted or will do so in a few days?



After the regular season, but before the playoffs. 


Neither LeMahieu or Torres are anywhere close to compiling numbers ahead of Trout. The only reason they'd get votes over Trout is the narrative. Trout is head and shoulders ahead of them.


Throw WAR out, i don't even care. Trout has an OBP of .435 and an OPS of 1.083. LeMahieu's OPS is almost 200 points lower

You are welcome to recall my posts when it becomes that i'm proven wrong as long as we judge it on the merits of what we knew to be true at the time it was posted.
2 months ago  ::  Sep 16, 2019 - 11:29AM #6
chl45
Posts: 1,209

Sep 16, 2019 -- 11:15AM, felipe27point5 wrote:


Sep 15, 2019 -- 4:41PM, chl45 wrote:

When do they actually vote for the MVP? The reason I ask is Trout is out for the rest of the season needing season ending surgery on the ball of his foot. He has been out for about a week already. If he misses the next two weeks will that give DJ or Bregman or even Torres time to compile more numbers to get closer to his and maybe swing some voters? Or, have they already voted or will do so in a few days?



After the regular season, but before the playoffs. 


Neither LeMahieu or Torres are anywhere close to compiling numbers ahead of Trout. The only reason they'd get votes over Trout is the narrative. Trout is head and shoulders ahead of them.


Throw WAR out, i don't even care. Trout has an OBP of .435 and an OPS of 1.083. LeMahieu's OPS is almost 200 points lower




Thanks for the info. Wasn't sure if it was before or after the playoffs. As far as the two Yankees in the MVP race . Like I said to Mo in another thread. To quote John Lennon:  "people say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one." Imagine.Laughing

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2 months ago  ::  Sep 16, 2019 - 12:38PM #7
Balboni
Posts: 260

Sep 16, 2019 -- 11:15AM, felipe27point5 wrote:


Sep 15, 2019 -- 4:41PM, chl45 wrote:

When do they actually vote for the MVP? The reason I ask is Trout is out for the rest of the season needing season ending surgery on the ball of his foot. He has been out for about a week already. If he misses the next two weeks will that give DJ or Bregman or even Torres time to compile more numbers to get closer to his and maybe swing some voters? Or, have they already voted or will do so in a few days?



After the regular season, but before the playoffs. 


Neither LeMahieu or Torres are anywhere close to compiling numbers ahead of Trout. The only reason they'd get votes over Trout is the narrative. Trout is head and shoulders ahead of them.


Throw WAR out, i don't even care. Trout has an OBP of .435 and an OPS of 1.083. LeMahieu's OPS is almost 200 points lower




Agree, the only way Trout doesn't win the award is if Bregman goes on a tear in the next 11 games, which would put his numbers close enough to Trout to at least have some of the writers think about it because of Bregman playing on a winning team and recency bias. Even then, Trout has got all his numbers with less at bats then all of the guys he's competing against.


LeMahieu and Torres are 17th and 19th in the AL in OPS. I can't imagine either finishing higher than 3rd or 4th. Even than might be a stretch.

2 months ago  ::  Sep 16, 2019 - 5:32PM #8
chl45
Posts: 1,209

Sep 16, 2019 -- 12:38PM, Balboni wrote:


Sep 16, 2019 -- 11:15AM, felipe27point5 wrote:


Sep 15, 2019 -- 4:41PM, chl45 wrote:

When do they actually vote for the MVP? The reason I ask is Trout is out for the rest of the season needing season ending surgery on the ball of his foot. He has been out for about a week already. If he misses the next two weeks will that give DJ or Bregman or even Torres time to compile more numbers to get closer to his and maybe swing some voters? Or, have they already voted or will do so in a few days?



After the regular season, but before the playoffs. 


Neither LeMahieu or Torres are anywhere close to compiling numbers ahead of Trout. The only reason they'd get votes over Trout is the narrative. Trout is head and shoulders ahead of them.


Throw WAR out, i don't even care. Trout has an OBP of .435 and an OPS of 1.083. LeMahieu's OPS is almost 200 points lower




Agree, the only way Trout doesn't win the award is if Bregman goes on a tear in the next 11 games, which would put his numbers close enough to Trout to at least have some of the writers think about it because of Bregman playing on a winning team and recency bias. Even then, Trout has got all his numbers with less at bats then all of the guys he's competing against.


LeMahieu and Torres are 17th and 19th in the AL in OPS. I can't imagine either finishing higher than 3rd or 4th. Even than might be a stretch.




Almost every TV talking head I have heard in the past week agrees with that first sentence you wrote almost word for word.  I have heard only one person  actually say the surprise winner will be DJL. He actually said winner. You will never believe who. Chris Russo on todays High Heat. The Mad Dog all of a sudden has been talking Yankees for the past month in a positive way. Mentions them almost every day. He has been a Yankee detractor for years. When I heard it I actually had to rewind the DVR because I thought I heard him wrong. The World really is full of surprises. Who knew?

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
2 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2019 - 12:02AM #9
davis2
Posts: 17,442

Sep 16, 2019 -- 11:15AM, felipe27point5 wrote:


Sep 15, 2019 -- 4:41PM, chl45 wrote:

When do they actually vote for the MVP? The reason I ask is Trout is out for the rest of the season needing season ending surgery on the ball of his foot. He has been out for about a week already. If he misses the next two weeks will that give DJ or Bregman or even Torres time to compile more numbers to get closer to his and maybe swing some voters? Or, have they already voted or will do so in a few days?



After the regular season, but before the playoffs. 


Neither LeMahieu or Torres are anywhere close to compiling numbers ahead of Trout. The only reason they'd get votes over Trout is the narrative. Trout is head and shoulders ahead of them.


Throw WAR out, i don't even care. Trout has an OBP of .435 and an OPS of 1.083. LeMahieu's OPS is almost 200 points lower



With out Trout, the Angels still suck.


Without DJ, we are kissing Boston in the standings.

2 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2019 - 8:00AM #10
Balboni
Posts: 260

Sep 17, 2019 -- 12:02AM, davis2 wrote:


Sep 16, 2019 -- 11:15AM, felipe27point5 wrote:


Sep 15, 2019 -- 4:41PM, chl45 wrote:

When do they actually vote for the MVP? The reason I ask is Trout is out for the rest of the season needing season ending surgery on the ball of his foot. He has been out for about a week already. If he misses the next two weeks will that give DJ or Bregman or even Torres time to compile more numbers to get closer to his and maybe swing some voters? Or, have they already voted or will do so in a few days?



After the regular season, but before the playoffs. 


Neither LeMahieu or Torres are anywhere close to compiling numbers ahead of Trout. The only reason they'd get votes over Trout is the narrative. Trout is head and shoulders ahead of them.


Throw WAR out, i don't even care. Trout has an OBP of .435 and an OPS of 1.083. LeMahieu's OPS is almost 200 points lower



With out Trout, the Angels still suck.


Without DJ, we are kissing Boston in the standings.




DJ's WAR is 5.5 and the Yankees are 18 games ahead of Boston in the standings. The Yanks easily beat Boston for the division with or without DJ, but they would be probably be several games behind Houston and have to fight Tampa down to the wire with a replacement level player in his place.


DJ has been great and could be an MVP in the post season, but he's not worth 20 plus games of wins over a replacement player, so no we would not be kissing Boston's anything without him.




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