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2 months ago  ::  Oct 20, 2019 - 2:54AM #11
AF1Strider
Posts: 1,294
Cashman won’t sign anyone good and they will say how this team was good enough to win the WS and injuries kept it from happening.... Hal has to keep his pockets full he doesn’t care about winning.
2 months ago  ::  Oct 20, 2019 - 3:06AM #12
dixieyank
Posts: 5,808

Is the goal of ownership really about winning championships, or making money?


Most teams ebb and flow, and some have ebbed a long time before flowing. The Yanks have maintained a system to try and make the post season (and they have for quite a while with the exception of a couple of seasons), which seems to give the biggest $ return. Some of their moves puzzle me, but I try to look at it from a purely business POV. Stanton was a calculated gamble based on business IMO, and not baseball return. 


Perhaps if someone were running things that was driven by winning games and championships moreso than turning profit, things would look different. But it seems those days are gone in NY. The bean counters and gamblers are in charge, so don't hold your breath on Cole wearing pinstripes. Just my 2 cents.

2 months ago  ::  Oct 20, 2019 - 3:54AM #13
NW
Posts: 1,183

I'd rather they sign Searage who could make Sevy, German, Paxton, Montgomery, and (maybe) Tanaka better.  He would do a lot more for our rotation than one guy.  Cole already proved he wasn't for NY when he didn't sign with us when we drafted him.  I'm not saying I wouldn't make him a good offer but I wouldn't break the bank.

2 months ago  ::  Oct 20, 2019 - 6:22AM #14
Jeff Edwards
Posts: 655

Sorry Qwik, but Cashman will sign another bat. He’s an idiot. 



That being said, not having an ace did not lose this series. The Yankees bats were a disgrace. I also think the rain out screwed the Yankees. Had the bullpen game occurred in the Bronx, The Yankees probably would have gone into Houston up 3-2. But they would have eventually lost the last 2 in Houston. The Yankees lost this series because the Astros have their number. The Yankees are intimidated by them. Reminds me of the troubles that the Yankees used to have with the Angels. 



 it is sad that these core players will probably never win a ring with the Yankees. As long as the Astros are good, that Yankees will never beat them. The Yankees can’t win close pressure games in Houston. The Yankees only hope is that some other team can defeat the Astros in the 1st round so that the Yankees don’t have to face them. 

2 months ago  ::  Oct 20, 2019 - 7:24AM #15
yankoldfan
Posts: 8,569

Oct 20, 2019 -- 6:22AM, Jeff Edwards wrote:


Sorry Qwik, but Cashman will sign another bat. He’s an idiot. 



That being said, not having an ace did not lose this series. The Yankees bats were a disgrace. I also think the rain out screwed the Yankees. Had the bullpen game occurred in the Bronx, The Yankees probably would have gone into Houston up 3-2. But they would have eventually lost the last 2 in Houston. The Yankees lost this series because the Astros have their number. The Yankees are intimidated by them. Reminds me of the troubles that the Yankees used to have with the Angels. 



 it is sad that these core players will probably never win a ring with the Yankees. As long as the Astros are good, that Yankees will never beat them. The Yankees can’t win close pressure games in Houston. The Yankees only hope is that some other team can defeat the Astros in the 1st round so that the Yankees don’t have to face them. 




I'll agree the bats did not show up against Houston, but lets remember one thing, great pitching usually dominates power hitters and when you have, EE, Judge, Sanchez, Stanton, Voit, Hicks even though he's not what I would call a pure power hitter, but he does swing very hard and has a low batting avg. to prove my point, these kind of hitters are going to have little success against the likes of Verlander and Cole... Like I stated, in order to win games in the playoffs you have to beat good pitching, not just once but more than they did...


I'm sure there will be changes made, I would imagine EE won't be back, Voit might be on the bubble, but being cheap he has a good chance of sticking around.. The thing that could help would be to find a team to take Stanton off our hands even if they have to pay a big chunk of his salary.. I'm running out of patience with Sanchez he had one great season and has not been healthy and he's a liability when catching, I wonder if the Yankees feel the same way, it might be time to trade him for a contact hitter ?? But I doubt that will happen, they've bragged Sanchez up for a long time and I don't think they want to eat their words on how good he is supposed to be ??


I think our pitching needs to be addressed, CC is gone, I don't know what will happen with Betances, and what do they do with German ?? I know what he did was not acceptable, but many a player has done as bad or even much worse and is still playing... He's got a great arm and he's still young, I'm hoping he can make immense and learn something from this ?? I'm hoping Ca$hman/Hal/Hank are willing to spend and get Cole that would be a huge part of the bigger puzzle and give us three type Aces, Cole, Paxton, Severino, and even Tanaka and if German's still around we will compete with anyone's pitching.. 


Another 64 dollar question is what do they do with Didi and what do they do with Gardner ?? I'm sure it will depend a lot on what kind of money do they want whether they are on this team or not... Lets not forget one other thing, Andujar where does he fit in ?? It should be a fun offseason, lots of questions will be addressed and I hope Cole is their #1 target ??

2 months ago  ::  Oct 20, 2019 - 7:41AM #16
luvdayanks
Posts: 27,262

Oct 20, 2019 -- 6:22AM, Jeff Edwards wrote:


Sorry Qwik, but Cashman will sign another bat. He’s an idiot. 



That being said, not having an ace did not lose this series. The Yankees bats were a disgrace. I also think the rain out screwed the Yankees. Had the bullpen game occurred in the Bronx, The Yankees probably would have gone into Houston up 3-2. But they would have eventually lost the last 2 in Houston. The Yankees lost this series because the Astros have their number. The Yankees are intimidated by them. Reminds me of the troubles that the Yankees used to have with the Angels. 



 it is sad that these core players will probably never win a ring with the Yankees. As long as the Astros are good, that Yankees will never beat them. The Yankees can’t win close pressure games in Houston. The Yankees only hope is that some other team can defeat the Astros in the 1st round so that the Yankees don’t have to face them. 




The board idiot calling  Cashman  an idiot . Hysterical !!

2 months ago  ::  Oct 20, 2019 - 7:53AM #17
Judge
Posts: 182

Oct 20, 2019 -- 3:06AM, dixieyank wrote:


Is the goal of ownership really about winning championships, or making money?


Most teams ebb and flow, and some have ebbed a long time before flowing. The Yanks have maintained a system to try and make the post season (and they have for quite a while with the exception of a couple of seasons), which seems to give the biggest $ return. Some of their moves puzzle me, but I try to look at it from a purely business POV. Stanton was a calculated gamble based on business IMO, and not baseball return. 


Perhaps if someone were running things that was driven by winning games and championships moreso than turning profit, things would look different. But it seems those days are gone in NY. The bean counters and gamblers are in charge, so don't hold your breath on Cole wearing pinstripes. Just my 2 cents.




To be fair, even the Dodgers and Red Sox have become budget conscious, no team is really spending like drunken sailors anymore.


What bothers me is the obsession the Yanks/Hal seem to have with bringing in guys who will accept short contracts.   It's like they are allergic to the risk of long term deals.


If the Yanks had signed Corbin over Happ for example, we'd be playing tomorrow.   And while I like having a deep bullpen, did they really need to add Otto to the group they already had?   Happ + Otto are paid 3 million more per year than Corbin got.   Why?


2 months ago  ::  Oct 20, 2019 - 7:57AM #18
newinn
Posts: 34,031

sign Cole, move Andujar to 1st, trade Frazier, trade for or sign a lefty bat for left field, think about what to do with Sanchez, let Chapman walk and look for another good bullpen arm or 2. Britton can close.


I think they need a left handed contact low K guy for left field. I also think they need to get away from this 4/5 inning mentality with their starters. Tanaka, Paxton   ( andI think Sevy) are capable of going longer but Sevy needs to start attacking the strike zone more.


This team doesn't need to be broken down and this idea that they do as posted here is insane. It needs some tweaks like all teams do. The core is as good as any in baseball

2 months ago  ::  Oct 20, 2019 - 8:09AM #19
Tippy
Posts: 432

Let Mike Ford play first next year. He probablly could have done a whole lot better this series than most of the bums on this roster.


Yanks better give Cole a blank check.

2 months ago  ::  Oct 20, 2019 - 8:10AM #20
newinn
Posts: 34,031

Oct 20, 2019 -- 8:09AM, Tippy wrote:


Let Mike Ford play first next year. He probablly could have done a whole lot better this series than most of the bums on this roster.


Yanks better give Cole a blank check.




they better??? or what, you stop being a loyal fan?

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