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9 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2019 - 5:40PM #401
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Dec 7, 2019 -- 1:56PM, Max wrote:

As much as I like Didi, he isn't the player Rizzo is. Torres can take Didi's place, Rizzo would be a huge upgrade from Voit/Ford. The Yankees still have payroll flexibility even if they sign Cole. They will have even more payroll flexibility next season when Els' contract comes off their books.


Nephew (huge Cubs fan) says it's unlikely they move Rizzo, but Bryant could be gone. 

9 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2019 - 8:13PM #402
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Five things to watch from the Yankees at the winter meetings | Newsday

Things to watch from the Yankees at the winter meetings in San Diego:

Pitching the pitchers. General manager Brian Cashman, who met face-to-face last week in California with Gerrit Cole and Stephen Strasburg, is likely to again engage with Scott Boras, who represents the pair, in San Diego.

Dollars were not discussed in either meeting, but expect some numbers to be exchanged in the coming days. It’s unlikely — though certainly not impossible — that either pitcher will be signed during the meetings, but by week’s end, the Yankees’ chances of signing one of the two (Cole is their top target) should come into focus.

Don’t forget about the Yankees' free agents. Since free agency began last month, Cashman has maintained contact with the representatives of four of his own free agents: Didi Gregorius, Dellin Betances, Brett Gardner, and Austin Romine. Of the four, Gardner is the most likely to be back, and there are indications that a deal could be forthcoming soon. He's followed by Betances, who would have been due a huge payday if he had not been hurt pretty much all of 2019. As for Gregorius, the Yankees are comfortable with Gleyber Torres shifting to shortstop and DJ LeMahieu taking over everyday duties at second. Romine, though beloved by pitchers and a clubhouse leader, has never been a favorite of the club’s analytics department, which for years has favored Kyle Higashioka.

Uncertainty in center. Aaron Hicks, signed to a seven-year extension last February, will miss at least the first two months of the season — and likely a bit more — as he recovers from Tommy John surgery on his right elbow. That would seem to add urgency to bringing Gardner back, but the Yankees could pivot last-minute and choose to explore other — and younger — outfield options on the market, whether it be through trade or free agency.

Keep an eye on Miggy. Miguel Andujar went from AL Rookie of the Year in 2018 to a mostly forgotten man in 2019 because of a shoulder injury that limited him to 12 games, setting the stage for the rise of Gio Urshela. Cashman has said the third-base job is Urshela’s to lose and hasn’t ruled out a position change for Andujar, who is of major interest to more than a few teams and could be a significant trade chip in a blockbuster deal.

Don't sleep on the trade market. While signing Cole has become No. 1 on the club’s winter wish list, some of the Yankees' biggest offseason splashes of late have come via trade, James Paxton last offseason being the most recent example. The Yankees traded for Giancarlo Stanton in 2017, Starlin Castro in 2015 and Gregorius in 2014.

9 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2019 - 8:16PM #403
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Latest On Gerrit Cole

Teams will be making their initial offers to Gerrit Cole in the coming days, reports Jeff Passan of ESPN (via Twitter). Cole, the top free agent in this year’s class, is a near-lock to exceed David Price’s $217MM guarantee, the current record contract for a pitcher.

Which teams figure to be in on Cole? The Yankees are seemingly committed to bringing Cole to the Bronx, and Peter Gammons of the Athletic somewhat cryptically tweets that the Bombers “were not denied” in their pursuit. Nevertheless, Passan’s sources hear that the Angels and Dodgers do remain in the running alongside the Yankees as favorites for Cole’s services. Both LA organizations have previously met with the Southern California native, as have the Yankees.

9 months ago  ::  Dec 07, 2019 - 10:27PM #404
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Dec 7, 2019 -- 5:40PM, SSBob643 wrote:

Dec 7, 2019 -- 1:56PM, Max wrote:

As much as I like Didi, he isn't the player Rizzo is. Torres can take Didi's place, Rizzo would be a huge upgrade from Voit/Ford. The Yankees still have payroll flexibility even if they sign Cole. They will have even more payroll flexibility next season when Els' contract comes off their books.


Nephew (huge Cubs fan) says it's unlikely they move Rizzo, but Bryant could be gone. 

Wonder what they would want for Bryant . Earliest he can be a free agent 2022. 28 yrs old  Had decent numbers except for only 77 RBIs. Played 110 games at 3rd   44 in the OF.  

9 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2019 - 8:01AM #405
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Dec 7, 2019 -- 10:27PM, yank0428 wrote:

Dec 7, 2019 -- 5:40PM, SSBob643 wrote:

Dec 7, 2019 -- 1:56PM, Max wrote:

As much as I like Didi, he isn't the player Rizzo is. Torres can take Didi's place, Rizzo would be a huge upgrade from Voit/Ford. The Yankees still have payroll flexibility even if they sign Cole. They will have even more payroll flexibility next season when Els' contract comes off their books.


Nephew (huge Cubs fan) says it's unlikely they move Rizzo, but Bryant could be gone. 

Wonder what they would want for Bryant . Earliest he can be a free agent 2022. 28 yrs old  Had decent numbers except for only 77 RBIs. Played 110 games at 3rd   44 in the OF.  


Cubs may be dealing from a weak position. Bryant has filed a grievance re his service time. If that ruling goes his way, he'll be a FA after the '20 season. There are some hard feelings between Bryant and the Cubs, and the feeling is he's not expected to re-sign with them. 

9 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2019 - 9:32AM #406
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SNY | Danny Abriano: The Yankees are apparently making such a big push to finally get Gerrit Cole in pinstripes that they have put all other issues on the back burner. They might have even accelerated the star righty’s timetable on when he is expected to sign. According to Jeff Passan, initial offers should come within the next few days (i.e., at the Winter Meetings).

SNY | Anthony McCarron: Speaking of the Winter Meetings, the Yankees look to have their hands full in San Diego this week. While atop the list is getting some Cole to stuff the teams’ stockings, Cashman nonetheless has other things to figure out this winter. McCarron lists seven things for Yankees fans to look out for beyond Cole, ranging from the likely (a Brett Gardner re-signing) to the fantasy (a trade for Francisco Lindor), and from the exciting (the aforementioned Lindor trade) to the dull (the backup catcher spot) and the disappointing (non-Cole pitching options).

New York Post | George King III: King listed three things of his own to watch out during the Winter Meetings. His first point falls into the “duh” category, as he mentions that Cole will be dominating the discussion. His second item is ho-hum, saying that the Yankees may kick the tires on options to replace Didi GregoriusAustin Romine, and Dellin Betances despite feeling confident in their in-house replacements. Lastly, he raises the possibility of acquiring Addison Russell to replace Didi. It’s a no from me, fam.

The Yankees are preparing to being back Brett Gardner on another one-year deal, and he certainly earned it after his production last season #NYY #yankees

9 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2019 - 9:34AM #407
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Should the Yankees trade for Robbie Ray?

The Arizona lefty has some tantalizing stuff but can never put it all together. Would a change of scenery help?

Brian Cashman has long had a fascination with a certain type of pitcher: the guy who’s just one step away from really becoming something special. Sometimes the question is can they strike more guys out, like Sonny Gray, and sometimes it’s can they pitch 180 innings, like James Paxton. The Yankees GM certainly has a type, trusting his deep analytics department to fill the gap between what a pitcher is now and what they can be later.

Free agency aside, it looks like the pitcher Cashman is most interested in on the trade market is Robbie Ray, who perfectly fits the mould of good-but-one-tweak-from-great:

Over the past two years, Ray produced elite strikeout numbers, comparable to the Justin Verlander, Gerrit Cole, and Max Scherzer. The reason Ray is available for trade, though, is that he’s not particularly good at the other side of pitching: keeping guys off base. His K-BB% is mediocre, just a tick above the 18% median of the 91 pitchers in that plot. His walk rate is dead last in this set! That delta highlights how much Ray struggles to find the plate, even when he has very real swing-and-miss stuff.

That’s the tweak the Yankees feel like they can make if they land Ray. If the team can pull that walk rate down to the median of this sample—tie Ray with James Paxton at 7.6%—the Yankees would effectively have Walker Buehler in the rotation. That’s tantalizing, but it’s also a substantial jump for a pitcher to make.

Ray uses a slider and curve about 48% of the time, which perfectly plays into the high strikeouts, high walks profile. It also suits the Yankees’ philosophy; the best run of success Paxton had in 2019 was when he incorporated a knuckle-curve the team convinced him to throw. Every mark against Ray as a quality starter can be turned around into a possible reason why the Yankees would be interested in him.

In the end, it’s probably a control issue. Ray’s under contract for one more year, hitting free agency at the same time as Paxton and Masahiro Tanaka, incidentally. That means the Yankees only have one year guaranteed for Ray to make the adjustment to a harder league, make 30 starts, and find a way to bring that walk rate down to something approaching normal, lest the better offenses of the AL tag Ray as he issues free pass after free pass.

Again, for every negative, there’s a spin that could work in the Yankees’ favor. With only one year of control and a massive weak spot in his game, Ray will come cheaper than most of the other pitchers available on the trade front. is certainly not perfect, but its valuation pegs Ray at worth about $18mm, meaning a one-for-one trade for a player like Miguel Andujar would be an overpay for a Yankee team that has multiple options for solving their rotation questions.

I’m not someone that’s a buyer on Ray. You’re asking a lot of a guy to adjust to a new league, while simultaneously trying to go from the worst walk rate in baseball to average. I can see why the Yankees would like him, though, and coming cheap with a new pitching coach in the fold could make him an intriguing name if certain free agency decisions don’t pan out.

9 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2019 - 9:40AM #408
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Who to watch at MLB's winter meetings

Baseball's annual winter meetings are arriving just in time to keep the hot stove toasty after a busy end to November. While the top names in free agency remain available, some significant players have already been locked up, which is a welcome change after two offseasons that moved at a glacial pace. Whether that means the winter meetings will wind up being a hotbed of activity remains to be seen.

Here are the most important figures to watch in San Diego from Sunday through Thursday:

Scott Boras

Intrigue at the winter meetings begins and ends with super-agent Boras because he's a lock to give a good quote while wheeling and dealing to get his clients a major payday. He's even more central this year based on the sheer volume of high-end free agents he's representing. Anthony Rendon, Gerrit Cole, Stephen Strasburg, Hyun-Jin Ryu, Marcell Ozuna, Nicholas Castellanos, and Dallas Keuchel each count on Boras' expertise to maximize their salaries. With Mike Moustakas already signed to a new deal, Boras may not hold his clients back until the last possible moment, either.

Josh Donaldson & Madison Bumgarner

If Boras' tactics and theatrics grow tiresome, the secondary market may heat up. The two most coveted free agents on the market who aren't under Boras' watch are Donaldson and Bumgarner. Even with draft-pick compensation attached, both players should have plenty of interested suitors.

Donaldson showed that he can still produce at the highest level when healthy. He mashed 37 home runs last season and, more importantly, played in 155 games. After settling for a one-year, prove-it deal with the Braves, he should command a multi-year contract from a team in need of some serious thump from the hot corner.

Bumgarner is suddenly atop the free-agent pitcher crop not managed by Boras after Zack Wheeler signed his massive deal earlier this week. At the time, there were rumblings that the market for MadBum was reaching a fever pitch similar to Wheeler's, so it's likely a move is coming sooner than later. It's hard to believe that Bumgarner is only 30, as it seems like he's been around forever thanks to him debuting as a 19-year-old in 2009.

At one point - probably around the time he earned NLCS and World Series MVP honors in 2014 - it looked like he would claim a king's ransom whenever he hit the open market. Injuries - dirtbike related and otherwise - have put a hitch into those expectations, though he is coming off his most effective and healthy season in years.

Rob Manfred and Tony Clark

While all eyes will be squarely focused on transactions - both real and imagined - growing tensions between the league and the players' union cannot be ignored. Commissioner Manfred wants to cut a bunch of minor-league affiliates and restructure the whole system, which would mean fewer jobs to go around.

That is only one of many areas of conflict between MLB and the MLBPA. The current CBA expires after 2022, and Manfred seems reluctant to even entertain concerns related to tanking, slowed free agency, qualifying offers, and more. And that's not accounting for rule changes that Manfred could - and probably will - unilaterally put into motion without needing union approval.

While opposition from both sides doesn't guarantee a work stoppage, the spectre of its possibility is looming larger. Will Tony Clark draw a firm line in the sand or will Manfred's resolve prove too strong?

There's more. In the wake of Los Angeles Angels pitcher Tyler Skaggs' death and the subsequent revelation that it was due to opioids, baseball's had no choice but to establish a new policy with respect to how it deals with substance abuse. Progress has been made, and it seems like Clark's in agreement with medical experts that the league should focus more on treatment than punishment. No official policy has been announced, but the goal has long been to have one in place by the end of the year.

Executives facing massive pressure

Chaim Bloom: The Red Sox missed the playoffs a year after winning the World Series and kicked Dave Dombrowski to the curb. Now, Bloom is heading baseball ops, and he's tasked with keeping the club afloat for the foreseeable future. Will he pull the trigger on a trade for Mookie Betts or find a buyer for David Price?

A.J. Preller: With an ultimatum in place to win now (or else HEADS WILL ROLL), Preller can't rest on his laurels, and so far he hasn't. The Padres have signed Drew Pomeranz and swung deals to acquire Trent Grisham, Jurickson Profar, and, most recently, Tommy Pham. That's probably not enough, but it's a start. The Padres have said they're priced out of the Strasburg sweepstakes, yet that's exactly the sort of signing the club needs. If Preller's job is on the line, he might as well take the biggest possible swing.

Billy Eppler: The Angels didn't hire Joe Maddon to be the new skipper just for Mike Trout to miss the playoffs for the seventh time in eight seasons. Los Angeles needs help on the mound and at various offensive positions. Translation: Eppler has his work cut out for him. Signing Gerrit Cole would be a major boon, especially with Shohei Ohtani presumably returning to his two-way role in 2020 and Dylan Bundy joining the rotation via trade, but it's not enough. Yes, Eppler and Co. managed to extend Trout for what could be the rest of his career, but if the Angels can't surround him with a competitive roster, it will be a shameful display that will forever taint this regime's legacy.

Farhan Zaidi: Hiring Gabe Kapler to be the bench boss was not exactly greeted with open arms by the Giants' fan base, so Zaidi finds himself in an unenviable position. San Francisco can no longer rely on residual goodwill from the three championships they won last decade. It's time for forward progress, which won't be easy considering how many aging veterans still populate the roster. As such, the Giants should probably resist a reunion with Bumgarner unless the terms are extremely favorable. If the team flounders for an extended period, Zaidi may not stick around long enough to witness a potential return to glory.

Brian Cashman. When was the last time the Yankees made a major free-agent splash? Cashman has been more likely to swing a big trade than loosen the purse strings in recent years. And while his job status is probably fairly secure, the Yankees just went an entire decade without playing in a World Series for the first time since the 1910s. The Yankees need rotation help more than anything, and they should absolutely be in the hunt for either Cole or Strasburg. It will be disappointing if they come up empty-handed.

Jerry Dipoto

The Mariners GM isn't under the same kind of pressure, but that doesn't mean Dipoto will sit on his hands. Heck, just last year he was swinging deals from a hospital bed after a health scare. Seattle has been curiously quiet apart from signing Carl Edwards Jr. and extending first-base prospect Evan White, so it's likely the calm before the storm.

Players like Kyle Seager, Dee Gordon, and Mitch Haniger have all been floated as potential trade chips this offseason while Domingo Santana and Tim Beckham were non-tendered and Omar Narvaez was already dealt.

Dipoto has only been at the helm since 2015, so his job isn't in jeopardy yet, but if the team doesn't make forward progress soon - the Mariners haven't been to the postseason since 2001 - there may be a reckoning. Expect Dipoto to work out a move before the meetings end even if the expectation is a "relatively quiet" week, according to Ryan Divish of the Seattle Times.

Astros' front office

While general manager Jeff Luhnow and owner Jim Crane would prefer it if everyone would suddenly forget about the various controversies facing the club - sign stealing, taunting female journalists, Crane avoiding reporters with the help of a police escort - they're not going away anytime soon.

Baseball's investigation into all things Astros has yet to have a formal or official conclusion, but the whole thing has been a PR disaster. Chances are, Manfred and the commissioner's office will wait until a quieter time in the new year to drop the hammer, but the club's various misdeeds - and stunning lack of self-awareness - will be the elephant in the room whenever Houston becomes the topic of conversation.

The Astros went from plucky underdogs, at least on the surface, to bigger villains than the Yankees in no time flat.

9 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2019 - 9:45AM #409
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Yankees 2020 Shopping List: Here’s Who They Need To Return To The World Series

Major League Baseball’s offseason is already in full swing as all 30 teams are diving into the annual spending spree, better known as free agency. One of the winter’s biggest wheeling-and-dealing events kicks off Sunday night in San Diego with the Winter Meetings.

For the Yankees, a second straight 100-win season came to a sudden and crushing end in the ALCS at the hands of the Houston Astros.

Despite being let down again by their lack of clutch hitting, New York has already made it known they’re planning to spend and spend big to fix the one area that’s miles behind their biggest rivals — starting pitching.

The following is the Yankees’ version of a Christmas wish list; what they need to shop for this offseason to become champs for the first time since 2009:


New York desperately needs to hit a home run in the starting pitching market this winter — not just for their roster, but to salvage their relationship with many fans who have lost confidence in the front office’s ability to make a game-changing move.

Owner Hal Steinbrenner and GM Brian Cashman have failed in recent years to land the big name ace via free agency or trade. From Justin Verlander, to Chris Sale, to Patrick Corbin (all who have World Series rings now) — that simply can’t happen in 2020 if the Yanks are serious about winning a championship.

Astros ace Gerrit Cole dominated in the 2019 playoffs, striking out 47 in 36 innings and recording a 1.72 ERA. (Photo by Mike Stobe/Getty Images)

The name at the top of the shopping list is an obviously one: Gerrit Cole.

Cole is coming off one of the great pitching seasons in recent memory and, arguably, the best walk-year performance in baseball history.

The 29-year-old workhorse struck out a staggering 326 batters in 212.1 innings this past season. It was his second All-Star campaign in a row with the Astros, who was seemingly revived after not reaching his full potential with the Pirates.

New York has no one who can match Cole’s level of greatness currently — not even starters Luis Severino or James Paxton — and the front office would appear to know that. According to reports, ownership has given their blessing to offer the prized free agent a “record-setting” deal.

The only obstacle that should be facing the Yankees successfully signing Cole would be if the California-native makes the decision to pitch closer to home.


Did you really think there was only going to be one pitcher on this list?

The Yanks’ bullpen-or-bust strategy blew up in their face during the 2019 ALCS. The Astros continually came through in the clutch off New York’s high-paid relievers, who were forced into games earlier and earlier by the team’s lackluster starting pitching.

Aside from Masahiro Tanaka, Severino, and Paxton, there is no reason Brian Cashman shouldn’t be looking to go overboard this winter and build a super rotation.

Giants starter Madison Bumgarner has a stunning 2.11 ERA in 16 postseason appearances. He’s also 4-0 in the World Series. (Photo by Jamie Squire/Getty Images)

This offseason’s free agent pitching crop includes a name that New York should have already traded for last year: Madison Bumgarner.

The 30-year-old lefty’s resume speaks for itself. He’s won three championships, twice pitched a shutout in the NL winner-take-all Wild Card game, and has a legendary 0.25 ERA in five World Series games.

Bumgarner has seemingly lost some of his luster among league executives due to injuries in 2017 and 2018, but he rebounded to make a league-leading 34 starts last season and struck out 203 batters — his best total since 2016. The veteran southpaw and postseason ace is the perfect answer to replace CC Sabathia, who retired after the playoffs.

Now, instead of trading prospects, that move will only cost money.


If signing two big name free agent pitchers is just too rich for the Yankees’ blood, the team needs to explore the already-active trade market this winter.

J.A. Happ has no place in the starting rotation. Re-signing the 37-year-old has already proven to be another costly pitching mistake for Cashman, who passed on making a larger offer to younger lefty Patrick Corbin and gave Happ at least $34 million guaranteed. He could earn another $17 million in 2021 if he makes at least 27 starts or throws 165 innings next year.

Rumors are already swirling New York may try to sell low on Happ — making room for a better rotation option. Perhaps Corey Kluber?

Corey Kluber won the AL Cy Young in 2014 and 2017 for the Indians. (Photo by David Maxwell/Getty Images)

The Cleveland ace is coming off a disastrous season, which was limited to just seven starts. The 33-year-old missed most of the season after having his pitching arm broken by a line drive back to the mound.

Before that though, the two-time Cy Young winner was one of the game’s premier workhorses, throwing over 200 innings and striking out over 200 batters in five straight seasons. The Indians picked up his $17.5 million option for next year, but the team has made it known they are trying to shed payroll. Cleveland is even reportedly open to trading franchise player Francisco Lindor.

New York should finally look to move their wealth of young prospects to get the dominant rotation it needs.

With outfielders Giancarlo Stanton and Aaron Hicks locked up to long-term deals — and Aaron Judge under team control — keeping talented youngsters like Clint Frazier and Estevan Florial is only damaging their trade value at this point.

Trade them and get the pieces you need to win in 2020, not 2024.


He may not have won the award, but make no mistake, DJ LeMahieu was the most “valuable” player in 2019.

FLASHBACK: 5 Undeniable Reasons Why DJ LeMahieu Is The AL MVP

DJ LeMahieu hit .325 with 3 homers during the Yankees’ 2019 playoff run. (Photo by Elsa/Getty Images)

Signed only through 2020 to a dirt cheap bargain of $12 million, the Yankees can’t allow the super utility infielder to reach free agency.

LeMahieu flashed Gold Glove defense at first, second, and third base in 2019, while having a career year at the plate. Not only did the 31-year-old drive in 102 RBI (mainly from the lead-off spot), he was the league’s most clutch performer — hitting a mind-boggling .389 with runners in scoring position.

Locking up LeMahieu now would give manager Aaron Boone supreme stability up the middle of the field, with catcher Gary Sanchez, infielder Gleyber Torres, Hicks, and LeMahieu all under contract for the next few seasons.


This deal is already reportedly in the works, but it’s something that still needs to get done and fast.

The Yankee veteran is the final member of the 2009 championship club still around and that type of experience can’t be measured in the stat columns.

The 36-year-old speedster seemed like he was at the end of his career a season ago, but transformed himself into a power hitting lefty that brought a righty-heavy Bronx lineup needed balance. Gardner shocked the baseball world by slugging a career-high 28 homers and 74 RBI.

With Hicks expected to miss the first half of 2020 with Tommy John surgery, bringing back Gardner for one more run will give New York the outfield insurance they need.

9 months ago  ::  Dec 08, 2019 - 10:04PM #410
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Dec 7, 2019 -- 8:41AM, yankoldfan wrote:

Dec 6, 2019 -- 11:35PM, jimwest wrote:

Dec 6, 2019 -- 11:17AM, Max wrote:

Dec 5, 2019 -- 11:06PM, jimwest wrote:

Presuming Gregorius is gone, Torres goes to short, and DJLM will be at second. That gives Ford a chance to share first. I'd like to see him get as much time as possible to see what he can do. A Voit/Ford platoon gives that lefty/righty combination.

Not a bad idea Jim, but if the Cubs are looking to drop payroll, the Yankees should see if Rizzo is available. I don't care how many 1Bman the Yankees have they don't compare to Rizzo. He's an excellent fielder, he's a lefty that hits for power and he doesn't strikeout much.  

Max, from what I have read, Rizzo is very unlikely to be put on the block. He is getting $16.5m this year and next (presuming the Cubs exercise their option on him), which for a guy of his stats, is very reasonable.

If Ca$hman/Hal doesn't want to spend the money to bring back Didi what makes anyone think they'll add Rizzo's $16.5M to their payroll ?? I'm wondering, don't the Yankees have a pretty good prospect that's a couple of years or so away that's a SS ?? I'm like an earlier post, I think Torres can manage SS but I don't think he's a long term SS and his best position is 2nd or even some day 3rd base ??

Like so many, I'd like to see Didi back but I think Didi is going to have to take a paycut from which other teams might pay him to stay a Yankee ??

Happ for Rizzo straight up!

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