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1 year ago  ::  Nov 05, 2019 - 7:18PM #51
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 80,844

Nov 5, 2019 -- 7:03PM, chl45 wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 6:44PM, newinn wrote:


what the hell are you talking about digs at you about 1st base? I believe Andujar will be at 1st base and who cares if you think Didi is a nice guy so you can like him. Is he a drinking partner or something? Man you beat things into the ground day after day and then get sensitive when you get called on it.





Not so. Beat it into the ground.? It is only big Yankee news since game 7 of against the Astro's what do you want to talk about? Why did you get on this thread you knew what it was about either disagree or agree why argue me and bring up what I said weeks ago?? Are you mad because I was right and they didn't pick up his option? For the last week all the conversations around here have been beaten to death. Stop being such a grouch we all are having a good time talking about stuff and you haven't been here for days and all of a sudden here is sour grapes over Didi and peoples opinions on it from you. We all are talking about it, and it started with the Yankees doing what I predicted they would do weeks ago, no to Didi on picking up his option, how's that Groucho?Wink 





But you shouldn't turn around and say how much you like Didi after you have been killing him for months on this forum.  

1 year ago  ::  Nov 05, 2019 - 7:19PM #52
newinn
Posts: 36,232

Nov 5, 2019 -- 7:18PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 7:03PM, chl45 wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 6:44PM, newinn wrote:


what the hell are you talking about digs at you about 1st base? I believe Andujar will be at 1st base and who cares if you think Didi is a nice guy so you can like him. Is he a drinking partner or something? Man you beat things into the ground day after day and then get sensitive when you get called on it.





Not so. Beat it into the ground.? It is only big Yankee news since game 7 of against the Astro's what do you want to talk about? Why did you get on this thread you knew what it was about either disagree or agree why argue me and bring up what I said weeks ago?? Are you mad because I was right and they didn't pick up his option? For the last week all the conversations around here have been beaten to death. Stop being such a grouch we all are having a good time talking about stuff and you haven't been here for days and all of a sudden here is sour grapes over Didi and peoples opinions on it from you. We all are talking about it, and it started with the Yankees doing what I predicted they would do weeks ago, no to Didi on picking up his option, how's that Groucho?Wink 





But you shouldn't turn around and say how much you like Didi after you have been killing him for months on this forum.  




He doesn't get it

1 year ago  ::  Nov 05, 2019 - 7:21PM #53
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 80,844

Nov 5, 2019 -- 7:19PM, newinn wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 7:18PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 7:03PM, chl45 wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 6:44PM, newinn wrote:


what the hell are you talking about digs at you about 1st base? I believe Andujar will be at 1st base and who cares if you think Didi is a nice guy so you can like him. Is he a drinking partner or something? Man you beat things into the ground day after day and then get sensitive when you get called on it.





Not so. Beat it into the ground.? It is only big Yankee news since game 7 of against the Astro's what do you want to talk about? Why did you get on this thread you knew what it was about either disagree or agree why argue me and bring up what I said weeks ago?? Are you mad because I was right and they didn't pick up his option? For the last week all the conversations around here have been beaten to death. Stop being such a grouch we all are having a good time talking about stuff and you haven't been here for days and all of a sudden here is sour grapes over Didi and peoples opinions on it from you. We all are talking about it, and it started with the Yankees doing what I predicted they would do weeks ago, no to Didi on picking up his option, how's that Groucho?Wink 





But you shouldn't turn around and say how much you like Didi after you have been killing him for months on this forum.  




He doesn't get it




He doesn't get something when he doesn't want to admit to something ... he can't stand Didi, but he knows if he says that that people will react ... so he says he is his favorite Yankee and goes around and downs him every chance he gets.

1 year ago  ::  Nov 05, 2019 - 10:08PM #54
chl45
Posts: 2,564

OK let me make it easy.  My forecast is Didi is not going to be signed. Not for any money or term with the Yankees. Love him or hate him the Yankees don't need him and the Yankees aren't stupid, they know it. We have at least two gold gloves in the infield without counting first base because no one has that position yet and there are 2 possibly 3 players that could have that position. If we add Luke or Ford or Andujar we will add least  28 to 30 home runs to the infield total. 


They  save 17 plus million dollars a year minimum, possibly more because Didi would want more than the 17 mil and they probably knew that also. They don't lose a thing without Didi. They save a minimum of 17 plus million, maybe more.  That's the bottom line. They only need to keep Wade or Estrada as the infield bench player both at minimum wage. So they still save 17 plus million towards a starting pitcher. That's my forecast and opinion on it and to keep two people happy and off my back about it, I am done on that subject until the Yankees make their SS decision. 

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
1 year ago  ::  Nov 05, 2019 - 11:41PM #55
davis2
Posts: 18,357

Nov 4, 2019 -- 10:58PM, chl45 wrote:


Nov 4, 2019 -- 10:38PM, davis2 wrote:


Nov 4, 2019 -- 10:33PM, chl45 wrote:


Nov 4, 2019 -- 8:13PM, slats7 wrote:


Torres at SS is a big defensive downgrade. way too nonchalant for my liking.




The kid is 22 years old. SS is his original  position. The Yankees moved him to 2nd base because of Didi. Torres defense will improve greatly with more discipline and coaching and practice with DJ at 2nd, which is DJ's natural position.. Torres will improve this year once they stop bouncing him from position to position and messing around moving him up and down in the line up. This kid has more upside than anyone in the game right now IMO. Maybe Soto is his close 2nd. As soon as the analytics stop messing with the consistency of this team they will get much better on defense. 



What about the mental lapses? Torres is an offense first player, better at 2B. We need Didi at SS.




Mental lapses come from lack of focus. If he is constantly moved all over the place that does not give this kid any comfort zone and his mind wanders who knows to where. Where he is hitting? Where he will play tomorrow, what is his girfriend doing? He is 22. What were you at 22?  Yes he is an athlete however it doesn't mean you still don't day dream at times. Didn't you at 22? Once again, bro, he is better at 2nd base only because he has been there for basically two years and taken out of his element at SS and relearned a position and now has to re learn what he was and go back to it.


DJ also is a better 2nd baseman than first baseman and anyone that hasn't seen DJ look awkward at times at 1st base is not paying attention. He is a gold glove 2nd baseman. Not 1st baseman. Torres natural position is SS and consistency breeds consistency not playing a different position every other day week or month. Versatility is one thing the Analytics preach but it sure as hell doesn't mean it works for certain players does it. They are not robots.



At 22? I was a father supporting a family, and running a warehouse. If I had lapses like Gleyber has at times, I would have been out of a job. And I was a super utility at every job I ever had. Focus is not the result of being versatile.  He may outgrow his focus lapses, and he'd better...

1 year ago  ::  Nov 05, 2019 - 11:45PM #56
davis2
Posts: 18,357

Nov 5, 2019 -- 6:44AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Not giving Didi a QO doesn't mean he won't be back, after all, $18M as a QO could play bigger as a one year deal than lets say they offer him a three year deal close or near 3@$27-$30M, I'm not sure Didi will get any more than that ??? 


It could also mean they are going to save money and go after a Cole/Strasburg/Wheeler kind of starter ?? I agree Didi would be a big loss, his defense and his LH bat will be missed...


I'm betting the wheels are turning and Didi is not out of the picture just yet ?? 




 I don't give a rat's sphincter what they pay Didi, I just want him at SS. He will have a really good year in 2020!

1 year ago  ::  Nov 05, 2019 - 11:54PM #57
davis2
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Nov 5, 2019 -- 4:21PM, chl45 wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 4:07PM, bomberhojoe wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 3:32PM, chl45 wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 2:13PM, bomberhojoe wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 12:03PM, chl45 wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 10:56AM, bomberhojoe wrote:

Maybe if the kids played hard and gave 100%, while also mastering the fundamentals and playing smart baseball, the game would be more exciting. Instead of flipping bats and acting like a bunch of fools.



Bomber, think about why that is.  They are being told what to do and have to read cheat sheets to know where to stand. C'mon man, you know better than that. Do something voer and over again and you get better at it. Sit in your house on the computer and watch what to do, well, good to get an idea but you have to do it, not learn it or read about it, or play it on a computer and think, Oh, yeah, I can do that! When you try, you find it not so easy. Just saying paractice and doing makes perfect. Thinking for yourself gives you instincts during an actual game.




I'm not trying to be a wise guy,  but I have no idea what your response means. Are you saying something about analytics being bad for the game? I'm lost.




I meant that players are getting used to being told what to do, instead of learning how to do it by playing more and reading about stats less. I know you, and I know your not trying to be a wise guy. No problem.


I don't like the launch angle stats, it makes hitters try and do justthat instead of putting the bat on the ball and staying in the middle of the field when they are slumping. I don't like Velo stats it makes pitchers want to throw harder than they should be. I don't like strike outs. I don't like jumbled lineups every day it makes hitters in consistant.


All those bad traits these kids are picking up are due to analytics right? Some analytic information is very helpful and really good and very helpful and some like what I mentioned just aren't. Everyone is not a home run hitter but they all try to be now, that's where the big bucks are. BTW, don't forget, chicks dig the long ball.lol...




 Ok, Now I understand. I am definitely not a fan of all these analytics, as you can tell from many of my responses. I understand that there's a place for them, and that they can help coaches make decisions. But I think the game has become way too analytic driven.




That's why I said I know you and I get where your at. I think and feel the same way as you with this analytic business. Its a good tool, not a bible! It's a guide and information how to be more successful in certain situations. It is not a baseball rule or a law!



You're right, analytics are a tool. But players still need to hit and catch the ball. I believe analytics will continue to rise, but stupid decisions like Hinch removing Greinke in the WS will see some old school guys back in dugouts. It is a perfect examle of needing a feel for the game. The game will find the balance eventually.

1 year ago  ::  Nov 06, 2019 - 6:45AM #58
Jon
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Didi is still coming off a Tommy John and Torres made him expendable. Yanks want to spend that $$$ on a starter.

1 year ago  ::  Nov 06, 2019 - 7:05AM #59
yankoldfan
Posts: 10,649

Nov 5, 2019 -- 5:55PM, chl45 wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 5:31PM, yankoldfan wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 5:19PM, ssmikey07 wrote:


Yankees are too right handed for the Stadium. Re-sign Didi.





There's been talk about Lindor (not sure if that's the way you spell his name) but he's a switch hitter, but I think that's more rumor than a thing ?? But Didi being a left handed hitter will be the reason they might bring him back ?? It takes two to dance, I just hope Ca$hman and Didi can find a song they like, and they don't get into an argument on who leads ??
Wink




A left handed bat that can't hit isn't good or am I missing something? He hit .116 in the Post Season and .218 for most of the season in 2019 and I think finished around .230 something. Left handed bat Where? I am a big Didi fan and he is a great clubhouse and dugout guy. One of my favorite Yankees but.. after TJ surgery many poositioin guys do what he is doing and then disappear. Not saying that's what will happen with him, but once again, other than the lefthanded part of his game, WE HAVE A GOLD GLOVE .340 hitting 25 plus home run hitting 2nd base man and a 22 year old SS who will get better and hits the snot out of the ball and leads the team in home runs, and a gold glove caliber .300 hitting 3rd baseman. A first baseman hitting .260 plus who has 30 to 35 a year home run possiblities if healthy.  Saying  Didi makes the defense better or the team better is hogwash IMO.




Yes Didi went into season ending slump, but so did a lot of others on this team, if you watched and paid attention no one hit in the Houston series... But I can remember Didi carrying the team at times, he won a game with his bat against the Twins... And one other thing, Didi even said it himself, he said he was hitting for $hit on his walk year, I'm sure Didi put some extra pressure on himself knowing he was most likely playing for his final contract, give the guy a break, he's the best option for SS and he's got a swing made for Yankee Stadium...

1 year ago  ::  Nov 07, 2019 - 8:38AM #60
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 80,844

Didi Gregorius’ free-agency conundrum could lead to Yankees reunion


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