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Can a catching coach shakeup get the most out of Gary Sanchez? - NYDN
1 month ago  ::  Nov 05, 2019 - 8:24PM #1
Jon
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Despite some ugly passed balls from Gary Sanchez in the playoffs, the Yankees catcher has received rave reviews from the organization for his effort and growth as a defender.

Yet, despite the stated compliments from the Yankees, the team reportedly made an intriguing coaching hire — poaching the Twins’ Tanner Swanson to join as their Major League Catching and Quality Control coach, according to Zone Coverage’s Brandon Warne. Which may mean it’s time for another discussion on Gary Sanchez’ defense.

Swanson was credited by Twins catcher Mitch Garver for his breakout campaign. Garver became an above-average pitch-framer in 2019 (4.2 runs above average according to Baseball Prospectus) while keeping his acceptable blocking and throwing numbers from 2018, all adding up to a strong defensive package. Garver also crushed the ball: .273/.365/.630 over 93 games.

At 28, Garver just established himself as a surefire starting catcher at a fairly advanced age. He told The Athletic’s Dan Hayes that the defensive strides he took gave him confidence that he’ll “be the guy this year.”

“Without the help that Tanner gave me I don’t think I would have put myself into position to really be a true option for a starting catcher,” he said of his work with Swanson.



However, as the Daily News noted in a June report, Sanchez’s defensive reputation and defensive statistics are trending in opposite directions. This season, he ranked 97th in Baseball Prospectus’ Fielding Runs Above Average among catchers, which is telling since there are usually only about 60 catchers on big-league rosters at any given time. Much of that comes from a precipitous loss of framing ability.

Though the numbers indicate Sanchez took a big step forward as a blocker (-4.3 in 2018 to -0.8 this year), he still recorded negative numbers across all of BPro’s catching stats, including a -5.1 framing runs above average, a nine-run swing from 2018. Until the machines take over, strikes stolen against mere flesh and blood umpires add up to favorable counts for pitchers, and of course, the phantom called third strikes that leave a batter pounding their bat in the dirt.

Swanson has been a catching specialist for years, working with the Twins across minor league levels since 2017, and before that, instructing catchers for the University of Washington. He also founded D1 Catching, an independent catching coaching and consultation business, in 2015.

There is some thought that the skills that lead to improved blocking make framing more challenging, and vice versa, thus making catchers that can succeed at both a rare breed. Fangraphs writer Matt Wallach noted that the top risers in blocking stats in 2019, which includes Sanchez, had corresponding drops in their framing.

We’ll soon find out if Swanson can pull off the same trick with Sanchez that he did with Garver — building a catcher that can have it all.
1 month ago  ::  Nov 05, 2019 - 9:22PM #2
dornit
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Is Sanchez even coachable? He doesn't seem very bright.

1 month ago  ::  Nov 05, 2019 - 9:36PM #3
northernclipper
Posts: 2,522

And you would know this because....?  nc

1 month ago  ::  Nov 05, 2019 - 10:03PM #4
luvdayanks
Posts: 27,262

Nov 5, 2019 -- 9:22PM, dornit wrote:


Is Sanchez even coachable? He doesn't seem very bright.




You're basing that on what you hear through  an interpreter??

1 month ago  ::  Nov 06, 2019 - 12:06AM #5
davis2
Posts: 17,478

Nov 5, 2019 -- 10:03PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 9:22PM, dornit wrote:


Is Sanchez even coachable? He doesn't seem very bright.




You're basing that on what you hear through  an interpreter??



KY dornit isn't very bright!

1 month ago  ::  Nov 06, 2019 - 6:43AM #6
Jon
Posts: 711

Nov 6, 2019 -- 12:06AM, davis2 wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 10:03PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 9:22PM, dornit wrote:


Is Sanchez even coachable? He doesn't seem very bright.




You're basing that on what you hear through  an interpreter??



KY dornit isn't very bright!




Enough. Just discuss the article.

1 month ago  ::  Nov 06, 2019 - 11:17PM #7
davis2
Posts: 17,478

Nov 6, 2019 -- 6:43AM, Jon wrote:


Nov 6, 2019 -- 12:06AM, davis2 wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 10:03PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Nov 5, 2019 -- 9:22PM, dornit wrote:


Is Sanchez even coachable? He doesn't seem very bright.




You're basing that on what you hear through  an interpreter??



KY dornit isn't very bright!




Enough. Just discuss the article.



Screw you

1 month ago  ::  Nov 07, 2019 - 12:49PM #8
Secretagent
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No coach can cure a lack of ability, either physical or mental.  The track record with Sanchez behind the plate is pretty established imo.  He may improve some with exeperience, but turning him into Irod defensively or even into an avg C defensively is not very likely to ever happen imo.  The Yanks are never going to admit that for obvious reasons as it serves no purpose, whether they plan to keep him longterm or deal him.  But it is pretty obvious to the world Sanchez is not a good defensive C outside of his arm strength.

1 month ago  ::  Nov 07, 2019 - 12:53PM #9
Jon
Posts: 711

Nov 7, 2019 -- 12:49PM, Secretagent wrote:


No coach can cure a lack of ability, either physical or mental.  The track record with Sanchez behind the plate is pretty established imo.  He may improve some with exeperience, but turning him into Irod defensively or even into an avg C defensively is not very likely to ever happen imo.  The Yanks are never going to admit that for obvious reasons as it serves no purpose, whether they plan to keep him longterm or deal him.  But it is pretty obvious to the world Sanchez is not a good defensive C outside of his arm strength.




I dunno. Wade Boggs became a Gold Glove 3B, and he had help.

1 month ago  ::  Nov 07, 2019 - 1:02PM #10
Secretagent
Posts: 48

Nov 7, 2019 -- 12:53PM, Jon wrote:


Nov 7, 2019 -- 12:49PM, Secretagent wrote:


No coach can cure a lack of ability, either physical or mental.  The track record with Sanchez behind the plate is pretty established imo.  He may improve some with exeperience, but turning him into Irod defensively or even into an avg C defensively is not very likely to ever happen imo.  The Yanks are never going to admit that for obvious reasons as it serves no purpose, whether they plan to keep him longterm or deal him.  But it is pretty obvious to the world Sanchez is not a good defensive C outside of his arm strength.




I dunno. Wade Boggs became a Gold Glove 3B, and he had help.




3b is a lot different than C.  Apples to oranges imo.  And while Boggs was defensively decent later on in his career, no one ever challenged his mental toughness or his dedication lol.  It is certainly possible a player can have an epiphany and all of a sudden see the light, but the underlying ability needs to be there as well and Sanchez is neither mentally tough imo nor has any natural skill at the position outside of his arm strength.  Maybe he proves us all wrong long term, but I would not bet a penny on him ever being anything but a C you tolerate because he hits a bunch of homers.

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