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1 year ago  ::  Nov 12, 2019 - 12:21PM #41
chl45
Posts: 2,564

Nov 12, 2019 -- 11:21AM, newinn wrote:


KNobloch was moved to left field. He didn't stay at 2nd




Who was our left fielder at the time? I don't remember. Was our left fielder let go or was Knobloch moved there after the LF'ldr was hurt or maybe it was the following season. I really can't remember. I just know that Knobloch was at 2nd seemingly for ever after he got the yips. 

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
1 year ago  ::  Nov 12, 2019 - 12:37PM #42
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 80,851

Nov 12, 2019 -- 12:21PM, chl45 wrote:


Nov 12, 2019 -- 11:21AM, newinn wrote:


KNobloch was moved to left field. He didn't stay at 2nd




Who was our left fielder at the time? I don't remember. Was our left fielder let go or was Knobloch moved there after the LF'ldr was hurt or maybe it was the following season. I really can't remember. I just know that Knobloch was at 2nd seemingly for ever after he got the yips. 




He's not talking to you anymore ... what part of what he said to you didn't you get?

1 year ago  ::  Nov 12, 2019 - 1:25PM #43
NW
Posts: 2,496

Nov 11, 2019 -- 12:21PM, chl45 wrote:


 chl45's 2020 Yankee projections ahead of the GM Winter Meetings that start today. 


Opinion's on projected 2020 Yankees. Because I actually have the nerve to have an opinion that can be debated and not afraid to say something that may be considered controversial. 


1) Gardner will be resigned.


2) Didi will not


3) Don't look for Cole, he won't be here, but someone close to an ace will be


4) Luke or Ford will be at first base Bird traded if not then gone after ST


5)Tauchman wins the left field job


6) Gardner/Tauchman split time LF/CF


7) Frazier gone replaced for a left handed hitting OF'ldr


8) Betances not here wants to much money


9) German back and dominates hitters most of the season


10) Wade gets more playing time and is another Yankee surprise


*Many teams ask for Andujar or Urschela  and offer up pitchers. Cashman knows he shouldn't keep both. May keep both ONLY if no big win for the Yankees seems possible or probable.




Don't expect anything out of the GM meetings.  They are more for higher level "status of the game" issues than wheeling and dealing.  Cashman may lay the groundwork for some interesting ideas but you won't see the trigger pulled on more than a couple of deals league-wide.

1 year ago  ::  Nov 12, 2019 - 2:05PM #44
bumper
Posts: 8,115

Nov 12, 2019 -- 9:53AM, Secretagent wrote:


First base has traditionally been the position where players with limited defensive skills are hidden.  To say that that has changed in this era is imo without any basis in actual fact outside of anecdotal imo.  Sure there have been and continue to be some pretty good 1bs.  There have also been\are some rather bad ones.  Obviously, if they are so bad that they can't catch a throw or field a grounder they are not going to stay at 1b either, but to claim that there are not the marginal fielders still at 1b is simply not looking hard enough (just look at the defensive stats for what they are worth).  There are a number with almost no range that can barely field a ground ball and make a throw to second if they need to.   And while all positions have their share of less than avg to bad fielders, 1b is still the easiest position to play on the field imo, not requiring arm strength, accuracy, range or reflexes in any great abundance.


Wrt Andujar, a player whose main defensive lapses are with his throwing imo, that problem largely disappears at 1b.  He should in theory imo be able to play 1b adequately.  Whether he ever becomes defensively good enough that you want him out there in the late innings of a close game in the playoffs is another matter of course, but that is besides the point.




certainly 1B is a dumping ground for players who can hit but are fielding liabilities. however a gold glove firstbaseman can be the difference maker in a so-so IF defense, digging erant throws out of the dirt etc, saving lots of runs in the process and making the other IF'ers better. we've been lucky to have a couple gold glovers there including mattingly & teixiera. tino wasn't too shabby either. neither voit or ford are in that league. not gonna rule out andujar but penciling him now until we've seen him play there is ludicrous. fwiw, despite a few hiccups, DJLM is better than of those 3 and based on the talent we've seen, has the potential to be a real good 1B man.

1 year ago  ::  Nov 12, 2019 - 2:41PM #45
Secretagent
Posts: 48

Nov 12, 2019 -- 2:05PM, bumper wrote:


Nov 12, 2019 -- 9:53AM, Secretagent wrote:


First base has traditionally been the position where players with limited defensive skills are hidden.  To say that that has changed in this era is imo without any basis in actual fact outside of anecdotal imo.  Sure there have been and continue to be some pretty good 1bs.  There have also been\are some rather bad ones.  Obviously, if they are so bad that they can't catch a throw or field a grounder they are not going to stay at 1b either, but to claim that there are not the marginal fielders still at 1b is simply not looking hard enough (just look at the defensive stats for what they are worth).  There are a number with almost no range that can barely field a ground ball and make a throw to second if they need to.   And while all positions have their share of less than avg to bad fielders, 1b is still the easiest position to play on the field imo, not requiring arm strength, accuracy, range or reflexes in any great abundance.


Wrt Andujar, a player whose main defensive lapses are with his throwing imo, that problem largely disappears at 1b.  He should in theory imo be able to play 1b adequately.  Whether he ever becomes defensively good enough that you want him out there in the late innings of a close game in the playoffs is another matter of course, but that is besides the point.




certainly 1B is a dumping ground for players who can hit but are fielding liabilities. however a gold glove firstbaseman can be the difference maker in a so-so IF defense, digging erant throws out of the dirt etc, saving lots of runs in the process and making the other IF'ers better. we've been lucky to have a couple gold glovers there including mattingly & teixiera. tino wasn't too shabby either. neither voit or ford are in that league. not gonna rule out andujar but penciling him now until we've seen him play there is ludicrous. fwiw, despite a few hiccups, DJLM is better than of those 3 and based on the talent we've seen, has the potential to be a real good 1B man.





Barring them re-signing Gregorious or trading for someone like Lindor, DJL is going to play mostly 2b next season, leaving 1b to Voit and Ford.  It is not like you are going to find gold glove caliber 1bs as such so arguing any of them are not the next coming of Mattingly is sort of besides the point imo.  We don't have anyone like that and certainly are not going to trade or sign one given the team's roster and needs currently.  If Andujar can play the position adequately once tested in the Spring, that is all you would really expect.  If not, then you look to Ford or Voit and Andujar ends up being a DH or traded.  By and large, the Yanks defense is very good with the only real liability being Sanchez behind the plate imo.  Having an avg or even slightly below avg 1b is not going to cause much grief imo and there simply are no other options.  As long as they hit and can play 1b adequately, then we should  be happy.

1 year ago  ::  Nov 12, 2019 - 3:18PM #46
chl45
Posts: 2,564

Nov 12, 2019 -- 1:25PM, NW wrote:


Nov 11, 2019 -- 12:21PM, chl45 wrote:


 chl45's 2020 Yankee projections ahead of the GM Winter Meetings that start today. 


Opinion's on projected 2020 Yankees. Because I actually have the nerve to have an opinion that can be debated and not afraid to say something that may be considered controversial. 


1) Gardner will be resigned.


2) Didi will not


3) Don't look for Cole, he won't be here, but someone close to an ace will be


4) Luke or Ford will be at first base Bird traded if not then gone after ST


5)Tauchman wins the left field job


6) Gardner/Tauchman split time LF/CF


7) Frazier gone replaced for a left handed hitting OF'ldr


8) Betances not here wants to much money


9) German back and dominates hitters most of the season


10) Wade gets more playing time and is another Yankee surprise


*Many teams ask for Andujar or Urschela  and offer up pitchers. Cashman knows he shouldn't keep both. May keep both ONLY if no big win for the Yankees seems possible or probable.




Don't expect anything out of the GM meetings.  They are more for higher level "status of the game" issues than wheeling and dealing.  Cashman may lay the groundwork for some interesting ideas but you won't see the trigger pulled on more than a couple of deals league-wide.




Exactly. I made the post for projections I had  an opinion on ahead of the meetings to see what develops or will take place most likely after they are over, and as you say, the ground work is laid mostly during these meetings.. I just wanted to see how close I got to what actually happens and have a little discussion going while the board is well, Bored. lol.. I agree with you not much usually happens at those "meetings."


Then as usual the soap opera crowd came on with their sensitivity all in shambles because I supposedly know it all when all it was, was a opinion on projections as stated in the threads first two lines. They come in and try and ruin every one of my threads or posts and as usual, once again they failed. I no longer aknowledge their attacks. I don't watch or like soap operas.

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
1 year ago  ::  Nov 12, 2019 - 3:20PM #47
NW
Posts: 2,496

Nov 12, 2019 -- 3:18PM, chl45 wrote:


Nov 12, 2019 -- 1:25PM, NW wrote:


Nov 11, 2019 -- 12:21PM, chl45 wrote:


 chl45's 2020 Yankee projections ahead of the GM Winter Meetings that start today. 


Opinion's on projected 2020 Yankees. Because I actually have the nerve to have an opinion that can be debated and not afraid to say something that may be considered controversial. 


1) Gardner will be resigned.


2) Didi will not


3) Don't look for Cole, he won't be here, but someone close to an ace will be


4) Luke or Ford will be at first base Bird traded if not then gone after ST


5)Tauchman wins the left field job


6) Gardner/Tauchman split time LF/CF


7) Frazier gone replaced for a left handed hitting OF'ldr


8) Betances not here wants to much money


9) German back and dominates hitters most of the season


10) Wade gets more playing time and is another Yankee surprise


*Many teams ask for Andujar or Urschela  and offer up pitchers. Cashman knows he shouldn't keep both. May keep both ONLY if no big win for the Yankees seems possible or probable.




Don't expect anything out of the GM meetings.  They are more for higher level "status of the game" issues than wheeling and dealing.  Cashman may lay the groundwork for some interesting ideas but you won't see the trigger pulled on more than a couple of deals league-wide.




Exactly. I made the post for projections I had  an opinion on ahead of the meetings to see what develops or will take place most likely after they are over, and as you say, the ground work is laid mostly during these meetings.. I just wanted to see how close I got to what actually happens and have a little discussion going while the board is well, Bored. lol.. I agree with you not much usually happens at those "meetings."


Then as usual the soap opera crowd came on with their sensitivity all in shambles because I supposedly know it all when all it was, was a opinion on projections as stated in the threads first two lines. They come in and try and ruin every one of my threads or posts and as usual, once again they failed. I no longer aknowledge their attacks. I don't watch or like soap operas.




It's cool to post a bunch of projections.  This is, after all, a discussion board for fans.  If you want to discuss things, then this is the place to do it.

1 year ago  ::  Nov 12, 2019 - 3:45PM #48
yankees64
Posts: 6

Who was our left fielder at the time? I don't remember. Was our left fielder let go or was Knobloch moved there after the LF'ldr was hurt or maybe it was the following season. I really can't remember. I just know that Knobloch was at 2nd seemingly for ever after he got the yips. 


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Ledee, Spencer, & Justice in 2000. In 2001 Justice played mostly DH, Knoblauch was mostly in left while Spencer played left & right. Ledee was gone since he was traded for Justice in 2000.

1 year ago  ::  Nov 12, 2019 - 4:08PM #49
chl45
Posts: 2,564

Nov 12, 2019 -- 3:45PM, yankees64 wrote:


Who was our left fielder at the time? I don't remember. Was our left fielder let go or was Knobloch moved there after the LF'ldr was hurt or maybe it was the following season. I really can't remember. I just know that Knobloch was at 2nd seemingly for ever after he got the yips. 




Ledee, Spencer, & Justice in 2000. In 2001 Justice played mostly DH, Knoblauch was mostly in left while Spencer played left & right. Ledee was gone since he was traded for Justice in 2000.




OK thanks! It's all coming back to me now. Just happy to know an infielder with the yips was not put on first base. See Andujar as an infielder has trouble throwing as well, but that's why this is a tough call with him. Our outfield is stacked as it is. SO is first base with two power hitters and Cashman loves power hitters. So unless he can play left field and Gardner isn't signed then maybe Tauchman takes center. If Gardner is signed then there really isn't anywhere to put him.


Stanton will play left at times also so what a log jam and no room for him out there it seems. Gonna be interesting for sure to see what happens. As an old school guy I absolutley hate moving players out of position and the Yankees seem to have no choice once again but to scramble players. I won't be shocked if they do it to much that we see more errors than ever.

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
1 year ago  ::  Nov 14, 2019 - 12:08AM #50
davis2
Posts: 18,362

Nov 12, 2019 -- 12:37PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 12, 2019 -- 12:21PM, chl45 wrote:


Nov 12, 2019 -- 11:21AM, newinn wrote:


KNobloch was moved to left field. He didn't stay at 2nd




Who was our left fielder at the time? I don't remember. Was our left fielder let go or was Knobloch moved there after the LF'ldr was hurt or maybe it was the following season. I really can't remember. I just know that Knobloch was at 2nd seemingly for ever after he got the yips. 




He's not talking to you anymore ... what part of what he said to you didn't you get?



Hey Mo, I get it that you don't like chl, and neither does new, or lola, and a few others...  But leave the guy be, he has a good idea of what's going on, but he may percieve things differently. No crime there. If you all don't like him, ignore him. All personalities aren't going to mesh all the time, we should all try to understand that.

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