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projected 2020 lineup
6 months ago  ::  Dec 20, 2019 - 5:35PM #1
bumper
Posts: 6,898

the hot stove folks posted this projected lineup. obviously we know there's a lot of flexibility with a team as deep as the yankees. DH is gonna be very fluid and tauchman's gonna get a lot of days in LF. andujar might be in the mix for games at 1B or 3B. we'll see. here it is:


DJLM 2B
Judge RF
Gleyber SS
Stanton LF
Sanchez C
Voit 1B
Andujar DH
Gardy CF
Urshela 3B

6 months ago  ::  Dec 20, 2019 - 6:38PM #2
njyf
Posts: 1,045

I wouldn't worry too much about the starting line up right now. If last year was any indication, the line up is going to change just about every game.

6 months ago  ::  Dec 20, 2019 - 7:10PM #3
chl45
Posts: 1,635

Sort of what it was last year. Of course Judge would have to go 0 for 1,500 before he is taken out of the 2 hole and Stanton and Sanchez are to high in that projected order. It is early for projected line ups but it doesn't mean it isn;t fun to mess around with. My line up would be totally different and since I am way smarter than the analytics and Manager I think they should use my line up.Laughing I know Newinn and Bumper and 2B Bobby and luvdayanks, who always agree with me will think my line up is the best way to go.WinkSurprised Agree the lineup will be messed with nearly every day, they just can't help themselves.


1) Urschela 3B


2) DJLM 2B


3) Torres 3B


4) Judge RF


5) Andjuar DH


6) Stanton LF


7) Luke 1stB


8) Sanchez C


9) Gardner CF


Best lineup ever! Yeah, you pitch to those guys in that order Verlander, Grienke go ahead.lol....


you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
6 months ago  ::  Dec 20, 2019 - 7:15PM #4
chl45
Posts: 1,635

Dec 20, 2019 -- 7:10PM, chl45 wrote:


Sort of what it was last year. Of course Judge would have to go 0 for 1,500 before he is taken out of the 2 hole and Stanton and Sanchez are to high in that projected order. It is early for projected line ups but it doesn't mean it isn;t fun to mess around with. My line up would be totally different and since I am way smarter than the analytics and Manager I think they should use my line up.Laughing I know Newinn and Bumper and 2B Bobby and luvdayanks, who always agree with me will think my line up is the best way to go.WinkSurprised Agree the lineup will be messed with nearly every day, they just can't help themselves. Tauchman should be in there against Lefty's instead of Stanton or Andujar.


1) Urschela 3B


2) DJLM 2B


3) Torres 3B


4) Judge RF


5) Andjuar DH


6) Stanton LF


7) Luke 1stB


8) Sanchez C


9) Gardner CF


Best lineup ever! Yeah, you pitch to those guys in that order Verlander, Grienke go ahead.lol....






you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
6 months ago  ::  Dec 20, 2019 - 8:41PM #5
bomberhojoe
Posts: 15,269

Dec 20, 2019 -- 5:35PM, bumper wrote:


the hot stove folks posted this projected lineup. obviously we know there's a lot of flexibility with a team as deep as the yankees. DH is gonna be very fluid and tauchman's gonna get a lot of days in LF. andujar might be in the mix for games at 1B or 3B. we'll see. here it is:


DJLM 2B
Judge RF
Gleyber SS
Stanton LF
Sanchez C
Voit 1B
Andujar DH
Gardy CF
Urshela 3B




I'd rather


LeMaheiu 2B
Judge RF
Gleyber SS
Andujar 1B 
Sanchez C
Stanton DH
Urshela 3B
Gardy CF
Tauchman/Wade LF

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6 months ago  ::  Dec 20, 2019 - 9:33PM #6
newinn
Posts: 35,070

Dec 20, 2019 -- 7:15PM, chl45 wrote:


Dec 20, 2019 -- 7:10PM, chl45 wrote:


Sort of what it was last year. Of course Judge would have to go 0 for 1,500 before he is taken out of the 2 hole and Stanton and Sanchez are to high in that projected order. It is early for projected line ups but it doesn't mean it isn;t fun to mess around with. My line up would be totally different and since I am way smarter than the analytics and Manager I think they should use my line up.Laughing I know Newinn and Bumper and 2B Bobby and luvdayanks, who always agree with me will think my line up is the best way to go.WinkSurprised Agree the lineup will be messed with nearly every day, they just can't help themselves. Tauchman should be in there against Lefty's instead of Stanton or Andujar.


1) Urschela 3B


2) DJLM 2B


3) Torres 3B


4) Judge RF


5) Andjuar DH


6) Stanton LF


7) Luke 1stB


8) Sanchez C


9) Gardner CF


Best lineup ever! Yeah, you pitch to those guys in that order Verlander, Grienke go ahead.lol....









I stopped looking after I saw your lead off hitterLaughing

6 months ago  ::  Dec 20, 2019 - 10:33PM #7
chl45
Posts: 1,635

Dec 20, 2019 -- 9:33PM, newinn wrote:


Dec 20, 2019 -- 7:15PM, chl45 wrote:


Dec 20, 2019 -- 7:10PM, chl45 wrote:


Sort of what it was last year. Of course Judge would have to go 0 for 1,500 before he is taken out of the 2 hole and Stanton and Sanchez are to high in that projected order. It is early for projected line ups but it doesn't mean it isn;t fun to mess around with. My line up would be totally different and since I am way smarter than the analytics and Manager I think they should use my line up.Laughing I know Newinn and Bumper and 2B Bobby and luvdayanks, who always agree with me will think my line up is the best way to go.WinkSurprised Agree the lineup will be messed with nearly every day, they just can't help themselves. Tauchman should be in there against Lefty's instead of Stanton or Andujar.


1) Urschela 3B


2) DJLM 2B


3) Torres 3B


4) Judge RF


5) Andjuar DH


6) Stanton LF


7) Luke 1stB


8) Sanchez C


9) Gardner CF


Best lineup ever! Yeah, you pitch to those guys in that order Verlander, Grienke go ahead.lol....









I stopped looking after I saw your lead off hitterLaughing




You shouldn't have New. Let me explain, if I may. Urschela hit 9th quite a bit last season. Whats the difference? In todays game contact hitters are rare. Urschela makes contact. When you make contact you move runners. He leads off once a game mostly. So what does it matter? Contact moves runners, makes things happen. DJ second? You bet. Because that's the best over all hitter for average and RBI's. Not Judge. Torres 3rd, self explanatory I think. Judge is going to strike out, and a lot. That's what he does. Not as much as he used to but he does. And he also hits friggen bombs. 4th. That's where he should hit and the 4 hitter should on this team get as many AB's with those hitters I put in front of him as the 2 hitter, hands down.


So then Andujar, Sanchez and Luke next. All three power hitters. You want to face all three of those monsters in a row as a pitcher? Especially after facing what the first 4 were capable of doing to you? Gardner 9th because that's where he hits the best and gets the most pitches to hit especially after the pitcher has faced the previous 8 hitters. Getting pitches to hit are important now because he has new found power. So, As crazy as it looks, that's why I did what I did. At least I had a method to my madness.Laughing DJ is wasted as a lead off hitter and I think you will agree on that. The guy led the team with RBI's leading off! C'mon man, Imagine him with 50 or 60 more opportunity's to have men on base. What do you think?




you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
6 months ago  ::  Dec 21, 2019 - 10:15AM #8
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 18,234

Dec 20, 2019 -- 7:10PM, chl45 wrote:


Sort of what it was last year. Of course Judge would have to go 0 for 1,500 before he is taken out of the 2 hole and Stanton and Sanchez are to high in that projected order. It is early for projected line ups but it doesn't mean it isn;t fun to mess around with. My line up would be totally different and since I am way smarter than the analytics and Manager I think they should use my line up.Laughing I know Newinn and Bumper and 2B Bobby and luvdayanks, who always agree with me will think my line up is the best way to go.WinkSurprised Agree the lineup will be messed with nearly every day, they just can't help themselves.


1) Urschela 3B


2) DJLM 2B


3) Torres 3B


4) Judge RF


5) Andjuar DH


6) Stanton LF


7) Luke 1stB


8) Sanchez C


9) Gardner CF


Best lineup ever! Yeah, you pitch to those guys in that order Verlander, Grienke go ahead.lol....





That leaves so many runs on the table.  Even with LeMahieu's career year Judge still got on base more than him.  Judge or Voit have to bat 2nd or it is costing you runs and plate apperances.  I know some feel that Aaron trying to get on base is costing him power, it is who he is.  That is who he would be batting clean up, do you really want a guy with a strikezone that huge expanding the zone and trying to be the hero every night?

6 months ago  ::  Dec 21, 2019 - 11:03AM #9
bumper
Posts: 6,898

Dec 21, 2019 -- 10:15AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Dec 20, 2019 -- 7:10PM, chl45 wrote:


Sort of what it was last year. Of course Judge would have to go 0 for 1,500 before he is taken out of the 2 hole and Stanton and Sanchez are to high in that projected order. It is early for projected line ups but it doesn't mean it isn;t fun to mess around with. My line up would be totally different and since I am way smarter than the analytics and Manager I think they should use my line up.Laughing I know Newinn and Bumper and 2B Bobby and luvdayanks, who always agree with me will think my line up is the best way to go.WinkSurprised Agree the lineup will be messed with nearly every day, they just can't help themselves.


1) Urschela 3B


2) DJLM 2B


3) Torres 3B


4) Judge RF


5) Andjuar DH


6) Stanton LF


7) Luke 1stB


8) Sanchez C


9) Gardner CF


Best lineup ever! Yeah, you pitch to those guys in that order Verlander, Grienke go ahead.lol....





That leaves so many runs on the table.  Even with LeMahieu's career year Judge still got on base more than him.  Judge or Voit have to bat 2nd or it is costing you runs and plate apperances.  I know some feel that Aaron trying to get on base is costing him power, it is who he is.  That is who he would be batting clean up, do you really want a guy with a strikezone that huge expanding the zone and trying to be the hero every night?




agree. doubt judge's BA position has much to do with him taking walks and getting on base. his trying achieve better control of the strike zone, go the other way, stay in the zone longer and take what the pitcher gives him leads to more walks. if he tried to pull everything, instead of striking 30% of the time, he'd be k'ing 35-40% of the time. he's trying to become an overall more productive hitter.


while my instinct says batting 4th would give him more ribby opportunities - apparently they have reams of computer models and analysis that say getting your top OPS guy 25 more ABs is more productive. ultimately an unanswerable question unless we have access to the information they have.




6 months ago  ::  Dec 21, 2019 - 12:07PM #10
chl45
Posts: 1,635

Dec 21, 2019 -- 11:03AM, bumper wrote:


Dec 21, 2019 -- 10:15AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Dec 20, 2019 -- 7:10PM, chl45 wrote:


Sort of what it was last year. Of course Judge would have to go 0 for 1,500 before he is taken out of the 2 hole and Stanton and Sanchez are to high in that projected order. It is early for projected line ups but it doesn't mean it isn;t fun to mess around with. My line up would be totally different and since I am way smarter than the analytics and Manager I think they should use my line up.Laughing I know Newinn and Bumper and 2B Bobby and luvdayanks, who always agree with me will think my line up is the best way to go.WinkSurprised Agree the lineup will be messed with nearly every day, they just can't help themselves.


1) Urschela 3B


2) DJLM 2B


3) Torres 3B


4) Judge RF


5) Andjuar DH


6) Stanton LF


7) Luke 1stB


8) Sanchez C


9) Gardner CF


Best lineup ever! Yeah, you pitch to those guys in that order Verlander, Grienke go ahead.lol....





That leaves so many runs on the table.  Even with LeMahieu's career year Judge still got on base more than him.  Judge or Voit have to bat 2nd or it is costing you runs and plate apperances.  I know some feel that Aaron trying to get on base is costing him power, it is who he is.  That is who he would be batting clean up, do you really want a guy with a strikezone that huge expanding the zone and trying to be the hero every night?




agree. doubt judge's BA position has much to do with him taking walks and getting on base. his trying achieve better control of the strike zone, go the other way, stay in the zone longer and take what the pitcher gives him leads to more walks. if he tried to pull everything, instead of striking 30% of the time, he'd be k'ing 35-40% of the time. he's trying to become an overall more productive hitter.


while my instinct says batting 4th would give him more ribby opportunities - apparently they have reams of computer models and analysis that say getting your top OPS guy 25 more ABs is more productive. ultimately an unanswerable question unless we have access to the information they have.







 Bumper and LL, The only thing I can offer more with Judge is this. He walks a lot and that is why his OB% is higher than DJ's. OK so when you walk with a man on first or he advances 1 base. That's it. If you get a single or a double which DJ does a lot, then you advance two base usually. Man on first is now on Third. Man on 2nd is now home with a run scored and an RBI for DJ. How do you think DJ leading off had so many RBI's? He hits or puts the ball in play and that scors runs. And to add to it, a guy like Judge looking to get on base with walks, in my old school brain, is ridiculous. He hits a ton of doubles becasue he hits the ball hard. How hard do you hit a ball when you walk?


His hard hit balls also get him on base with errors. The man should not be walking or looking to walk. He looks to walk, why do you think he has so many 3 2 counts and then takes a called strike three! C'mon guys think about it. I am not saying I am right but to me that guy is wasting his talent just to get on base because that's what the analytics say he does a lot.


Kevin Youkilis for an example was the master of walks because of his eye, not because he tried to walk or waited for a home run pitch or a cookie. He didn't hit much, had a lot of homers at times, but his value to the Sox was his eye. His OB%. Judge doesn't have that skill IMO. The eagle eye skill. Therefore, more strike outs. How many times does he get fooled with a third strike? Just sayin. You guys are smart, you watch him take called 3rd strikes. Why does he? Cause he is looking to walk with 3 balls on him, and he has not got that eye IMO. 4th he would be looking to swing more. Going down swinging is one thing, going down looking is embarassing, at least when I played. Just my thoughts on it. Again. lol.

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
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