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Dusty Baker wants MLB to protect the Astros from 'premeditated retaliation'
5 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2020 - 6:32AM #1
bumper
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from yahoo sports. the plot thickens ...


Houston Astros manager Dusty Baker is trying to get ahead of something he knows will be a problem in 2020. In an effort to make sure Astros players aren’t intentionally thrown at this season, Baker asked Major League Baseball to “put a stop to this seemingly premeditated retaliation that I'm hearing about.”


Baker’s comments come after a number of pitchers suggested Astros hitters could have it rough this season. Most of those pitchers — like Mike Clevinger and Alex Wood — were careful when speaking about the issue. Clevinger said Houston hitters “shouldn’t be comfortable” when they get in the batter’s box. Wood said there will be pitchers who “take it into their own hands.”


The only pitcher to outright admit he would throw at the Astros was Los Angeles Dodgers starter Ross Stripling, who said he would do it “in the right time and the right place.”


With a thoughtful, heartfelt apology, perhaps Astros players could have calmed the masses. Instead, opposing players likely feel even more justified in their anger.


Since the scandal broke in the offseason, many opposing players had months to stew on the situation, letting their fury build as the Astros remained quiet and the league continued its investigation. When that investigation resulted in no Astros players getting punished, and Jose Altuve and Alex Bregman issued non-statements at the team’s FanFest, opposing players only grew angrier. All that pent up frustration is likely fueling the comments suggesting the Astros are going to be hit a ton in 2020.


Baker’s comments put MLB in a difficult spot. If the league suspends Astros players, it undermines its credibility and ability to conduct an investigation. If it steps in and tells opposing teams to take it easy on the Astros, it risks further angering players on 29 teams. If it does nothing, it sends a message that retaliation is fine ... at least until MLB then punishes non-Astros for taking matters into their own hands.


The league has handled the entire situation poorly from the start. Baker’s comments only further illustrate how tough it will be for MLB to pull itself out of a colossal mess of its own making.

5 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2020 - 8:36AM #2
njyf
Posts: 1,045

Why should they get special protection? They should just get what everybody else gets.

5 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2020 - 9:11AM #3
newinn
Posts: 35,203

Pitchers have been getting thrown out of games and sometime suspended if the umpires determine throwing at a hitter was intentional. That has been the precedent. Are baseball fans of teams going to be all pi$$ed off if our pitchers get thrown out and suspended? My guess is they won't get extra protection just the same protection that has been given for years. It's 20/20, Let's Go Yankees!

5 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2020 - 10:21AM #4
Cocopugg
Posts: 6,987

Just for that, I hope the entire league throws at them. They deserve LESS protection than any of the other teams. If they don't like it, then the rest of the team would gladly accept a 9-0 forfeit by them. Screw the Astros...and as long as all those cheaters are allowed to continue to play in the major leagues, they should expect ANYTHING the rest of the league players may hurl their way...Sorry guys, but you chose to cheat, now it's time to pay the consequences for your actions.

5 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2020 - 10:38AM #5
Lola
Posts: 25,074

Feb 16, 2020 -- 6:32AM, bumper wrote:


from yahoo sports. the plot thickens ...


Houston Astros manager Dusty Baker is trying to get ahead of something he knows will be a problem in 2020. In an effort to make sure Astros players aren’t intentionally thrown at this season, Baker asked Major League Baseball to “put a stop to this seemingly premeditated retaliation that I'm hearing about.”


Baker’s comments come after a number of pitchers suggested Astros hitters could have it rough this season. Most of those pitchers — like Mike Clevinger and Alex Wood — were careful when speaking about the issue. Clevinger said Houston hitters “shouldn’t be comfortable” when they get in the batter’s box. Wood said there will be pitchers who “take it into their own hands.”


The only pitcher to outright admit he would throw at the Astros was Los Angeles Dodgers starter Ross Stripling, who said he would do it “in the right time and the right place.”


With a thoughtful, heartfelt apology, perhaps Astros players could have calmed the masses. Instead, opposing players likely feel even more justified in their anger.


Since the scandal broke in the offseason, many opposing players had months to stew on the situation, letting their fury build as the Astros remained quiet and the league continued its investigation. When that investigation resulted in no Astros players getting punished, and Jose Altuve and Alex Bregman issued non-statements at the team’s FanFest, opposing players only grew angrier. All that pent up frustration is likely fueling the comments suggesting the Astros are going to be hit a ton in 2020.


Baker’s comments put MLB in a difficult spot. If the league suspends Astros players, it undermines its credibility and ability to conduct an investigation. If it steps in and tells opposing teams to take it easy on the Astros, it risks further angering players on 29 teams. If it does nothing, it sends a message that retaliation is fine ... at least until MLB then punishes non-Astros for taking matters into their own hands.


The league has handled the entire situation poorly from the start. Baker’s comments only further illustrate how tough it will be for MLB to pull itself out of a colossal mess of its own making.




Carlos Correa better shut his mouth, he's making himself the #1 target. He's had lot to say the past couple days after his phony apology. He basically called Cody Bellinger stupid.

5 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2020 - 12:44PM #6
Jon
Posts: 1,330

Let me know if Dusty will ask fans not to boo them and chant "CHEAT-ERS" from the stands.

5 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2020 - 1:05PM #7
laurenfrances
Posts: 37,512

Special privileges? Yankees got pelted at times in road games, I don't seem to recall Yankees asking for special privileges.  I recalled a time watching Yankees in Seattle where A-Rod was public enemy #1.  I was very uncomfortable sitting in the stands hoping the massive rants didn't escalate to a higher level.  I recalled Yankees/Phillies WS where batteries and coins was thrown to our guys in the OF...Special privileges?????


They better get use to it, hopefully taking it under the chin will quiet the rant.

5 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2020 - 4:13PM #8
Paterson
Posts: 6,616

    The best protection MLB can afford Astro players is to void the championship from 2017. Less than that leaves open the urge for vigiliante justice. It is on the commissioner to take charge of a situation that he is allowing to get out of hand. 

5 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2020 - 5:42PM #9
gentlemutt
Posts: 228

Throwing at the hitters would just help them win more games.  Stripping of their title, in 2017, won't mean anything to them.  They should be susupended from baseball, for a year, or not allowed to make roster changes, for a year,

5 months ago  ::  Feb 16, 2020 - 6:56PM #10
hampfan
Posts: 3,537

Feb 16, 2020 -- 4:13PM, Paterson wrote:


    The best protection MLB can afford Astro players is to void the championship from 2017. Less than that leaves open the urge for vigiliante justice. It is on the commissioner to take charge of a situation that he is allowing to get out of hand. 




Who gets the money made during the Series? Will the H players and owners have to give it back? You see the dilemma, Pat. Manfred could only nullify their WS win on the "books," which doesn't hit those guilty where it hurts.

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