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3 months ago  ::  May 28, 2020 - 8:29PM #31
Judge
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May 28, 2020 -- 10:26AM, NY23 wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 7:06AM, yankoldfan wrote:


May 27, 2020 -- 8:55PM, Judge wrote:


The most dangerous thing of all though is to vote for Trump if you're black.


Beacuse then you ain't black.




The most dangerous thing would be to have another four years of donald as our Pres. ... Don't worry NUTJOB he'll get very few blacks to vote for him... It's only nuts like you that think he's doing "well"...




No one in their right mind supports an American-hating bigot like KKK Donnie.




www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=S6PFZNr...

3 months ago  ::  May 28, 2020 - 9:19PM #32
NW
Posts: 2,268

I have a little bit of experience with deaths in police custody.  I recently spoke with the State AG office investigator about a person who died in custody of police in an incident that bore some similarity to the incident in Minneapolis.  I won't relate more than the news stories did due to HIPAA but the officers in that case immediately realized there was a medical emergency when the subdued subject stopped responding, they immediately started CPR and had a defibrillator in place on our arrival.  The person's death was found by the medical examiner to be due to drug use, not any hand of the police officers.


The police officer has a difficult role when it comes to arresting a suspect.  NOBODY wants to be arrested and some will respond defiantly and some will pose a physical threat.  In those cases, force is one of many options available and in many cases it is justified.  However, anyone who has gone through basic training in restraining a person (police, EMS, hospitals, psychiatric units, etc.) can tell you that you apply the minimum amount of force to remain safety and once you apply that force it is YOUR responsibility to make certain the person's health is being maintained.  Although a suspect saying "I can't breathe" or that something hurts may not be a reason to remove force, it is a reason to check on the suspect.  I've seen many suspects (or patients even) say something to get restraints loosened and then you're getting punched in the face.  Regardless, it's a reason to check.


What these officers did is indefensible and it would lead me to believe that there's an established culture either in the department, the precinct, or the shift.  All four of these officers should be tried criminally.  Any one of them could have said "hey man, I can help you get him up and into the car" and we'd never have seen this videotape.  Police are trained to protect each other and defuse situations.  They did neither in this case.

3 months ago  ::  May 28, 2020 - 9:26PM #33
Judge
Posts: 4,221

May 28, 2020 -- 9:19PM, NW wrote:


I have a little bit of experience with deaths in police custody.  I recently spoke with the State AG office investigator about a person who died in custody of police in an incident that bore some similarity to the incident in Minneapolis.  I won't relate more than the news stories did due to HIPAA but the officers in that case immediately realized there was a medical emergency when the subdued subject stopped responding, they immediately started CPR and had a defibrillator in place on our arrival.  The person's death was found by the medical examiner to be due to drug use, not any hand of the police officers.


The police officer has a difficult role when it comes to arresting a suspect.  NOBODY wants to be arrested and some will respond defiantly and some will pose a physical threat.  In those cases, force is one of many options available and in many cases it is justified.  However, anyone who has gone through basic training in restraining a person (police, EMS, hospitals, psychiatric units, etc.) can tell you that you apply the minimum amount of force to remain safety and once you apply that force it is YOUR responsibility to make certain the person's health is being maintained.  Although a suspect saying "I can't breathe" or that something hurts may not be a reason to remove force, it is a reason to check on the suspect.  I've seen many suspects (or patients even) say something to get restraints loosened and then you're getting punched in the face.  Regardless, it's a reason to check.


What these officers did is indefensible and it would lead me to believe that there's an established culture either in the department, the precinct, or the shift.  All four of these officers should be tried criminally.  Any one of them could have said "hey man, I can help you get him up and into the car" and we'd never have seen this videotape.  Police are trained to protect each other and defuse situations.  They did neither in this case.




Yeah this instance is as bad as I've ever seen.   There are 4 officers there.   The guy is already in cuffs.   And yet the one officer puts all of his weight on the guy's neck, when he's barely moving, for several minutes on end.   I just can't see any justification for it, at all.   


I still want the officers to get their due process, and I am against the riots and the looting as that won't help - all it will do is drive businesses away from that neighborhood.   Not sure what there is to riot about as literally everyone agrees this was wrong and charges will be coming.   I wonder how much of that is grass roots and how many people are there from other places in the country either being paid to stir things up, and/or taking advantage of the situation to grab what they can.

3 months ago  ::  May 28, 2020 - 9:45PM #34
Judge
Posts: 4,221

This is the right response as the police are really no help when people riot and loot:


twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1266131437...


Long live the 2nd Amendment.


How many of those guns would Biden (with good pal Beto) take away?

3 months ago  ::  May 28, 2020 - 9:46PM #35
NW
Posts: 2,268

May 28, 2020 -- 9:26PM, Judge wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 9:19PM, NW wrote:


I have a little bit of experience with deaths in police custody.  I recently spoke with the State AG office investigator about a person who died in custody of police in an incident that bore some similarity to the incident in Minneapolis.  I won't relate more than the news stories did due to HIPAA but the officers in that case immediately realized there was a medical emergency when the subdued subject stopped responding, they immediately started CPR and had a defibrillator in place on our arrival.  The person's death was found by the medical examiner to be due to drug use, not any hand of the police officers.


The police officer has a difficult role when it comes to arresting a suspect.  NOBODY wants to be arrested and some will respond defiantly and some will pose a physical threat.  In those cases, force is one of many options available and in many cases it is justified.  However, anyone who has gone through basic training in restraining a person (police, EMS, hospitals, psychiatric units, etc.) can tell you that you apply the minimum amount of force to remain safety and once you apply that force it is YOUR responsibility to make certain the person's health is being maintained.  Although a suspect saying "I can't breathe" or that something hurts may not be a reason to remove force, it is a reason to check on the suspect.  I've seen many suspects (or patients even) say something to get restraints loosened and then you're getting punched in the face.  Regardless, it's a reason to check.


What these officers did is indefensible and it would lead me to believe that there's an established culture either in the department, the precinct, or the shift.  All four of these officers should be tried criminally.  Any one of them could have said "hey man, I can help you get him up and into the car" and we'd never have seen this videotape.  Police are trained to protect each other and defuse situations.  They did neither in this case.




Yeah this instance is as bad as I've ever seen.   There are 4 officers there.   The guy is already in cuffs.   And yet the one officer puts all of his weight on the guy's neck, when he's barely moving, for several minutes on end.   I just can't see any justification for it, at all.   


I still want the officers to get their due process, and I am against the riots and the looting as that won't help - all it will do is drive businesses away from that neighborhood.   Not sure what there is to riot about as literally everyone agrees this was wrong and charges will be coming.   I wonder how much of that is grass roots and how many people are there from other places in the country either being paid to stir things up, and/or taking advantage of the situation to grab what they can.




I've seen patients in cuffs do bodily harm.  However, that doesn't change the fact that when you by law take someone into custody, you are the custodian of their wellbeing.  I fully understand the adrenalin involved in a forcible restraint.  I've done it enough times.  That can't be an excuse for the several minutes of 4 cops doing nothing to check on this man's wellbeing.


There is one thing that scares me about this case.  If the autopsy shows that the man didn't die from something caused by the knee to the neck, that throws voluntary homicide completely out the window and people are going to react accordingly.  If they charge the primary officer with criminally neglient homicide and he's found guilty and gets 1-4 years, people are going to (rightly) go crazy.  


There have already been small protests in Newburgh.  If this guy doesn't get charged with murder, they're going to burn cities down across the country.

3 months ago  ::  May 28, 2020 - 9:49PM #36
NY23
Posts: 9,287

May 28, 2020 -- 8:29PM, Judge wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 10:26AM, NY23 wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 7:06AM, yankoldfan wrote:


May 27, 2020 -- 8:55PM, Judge wrote:


The most dangerous thing of all though is to vote for Trump if you're black.


Beacuse then you ain't black.




The most dangerous thing would be to have another four years of donald as our Pres. ... Don't worry NUTJOB he'll get very few blacks to vote for him... It's only nuts like you that think he's doing "well"...




No one in their right mind supports an American-hating bigot like KKK Donnie.




www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=S6PFZNr...




No one in their right mind supports an American-hating bigot like KKK Donnie.




3 months ago  ::  May 28, 2020 - 9:50PM #37
Judge
Posts: 4,221

May 28, 2020 -- 9:49PM, NY23 wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 8:29PM, Judge wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 10:26AM, NY23 wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 7:06AM, yankoldfan wrote:


May 27, 2020 -- 8:55PM, Judge wrote:


The most dangerous thing of all though is to vote for Trump if you're black.


Beacuse then you ain't black.




The most dangerous thing would be to have another four years of donald as our Pres. ... Don't worry NUTJOB he'll get very few blacks to vote for him... It's only nuts like you that think he's doing "well"...




No one in their right mind supports an American-hating bigot like KKK Donnie.




www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=S6PFZNr...




No one in their right mind supports an American-hating bigot like KKK Donnie.







More useless, robo-repeat, childish, stalky and obsessive posts by the resident buffoon.

3 months ago  ::  May 28, 2020 - 9:53PM #38
NY23
Posts: 9,287

May 28, 2020 -- 9:50PM, Judge wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 9:49PM, NY23 wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 8:29PM, Judge wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 10:26AM, NY23 wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 7:06AM, yankoldfan wrote:


May 27, 2020 -- 8:55PM, Judge wrote:


The most dangerous thing of all though is to vote for Trump if you're black.


Beacuse then you ain't black.




The most dangerous thing would be to have another four years of donald as our Pres. ... Don't worry NUTJOB he'll get very few blacks to vote for him... It's only nuts like you that think he's doing "well"...




No one in their right mind supports an American-hating bigot like KKK Donnie.




www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=S6PFZNr...




No one in their right mind supports an American-hating bigot like KKK Donnie.







More useless, robo-repeat, childish, stalky and obsessive posts by the resident buffoon.




Especially fellow stupid racists.


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3 months ago  ::  May 28, 2020 - 9:55PM #39
NY23
Posts: 9,287

3 months ago  ::  May 28, 2020 - 10:06PM #40
Judge
Posts: 4,221

May 28, 2020 -- 9:53PM, NY23 wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 9:50PM, Judge wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 9:49PM, NY23 wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 8:29PM, Judge wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 10:26AM, NY23 wrote:


May 28, 2020 -- 7:06AM, yankoldfan wrote:


May 27, 2020 -- 8:55PM, Judge wrote:


The most dangerous thing of all though is to vote for Trump if you're black.


Beacuse then you ain't black.




The most dangerous thing would be to have another four years of donald as our Pres. ... Don't worry NUTJOB he'll get very few blacks to vote for him... It's only nuts like you that think he's doing "well"...




No one in their right mind supports an American-hating bigot like KKK Donnie.




www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=S6PFZNr...




No one in their right mind supports an American-hating bigot like KKK Donnie.







More useless, robo-repeat, childish, stalky and obsessive posts by the resident buffoon.




Especially fellow stupid racists.





You're a worthless, obsessive and childish stalker.

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