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2 months ago  ::  Jun 08, 2020 - 4:45PM #1
Rob
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MLB has made a new proposal to the Players Association that called for players to receive 50 percent of their prorated salaries in a 76-game regular season, plus no draft pick compensation if a player is made a qualifying offer, rejects it and signs with another team.


Honestly, each counter offer by the owenrs and players seems to drive them farther apart rather than inch toward a solution.


I have been a Yankee fan for more than 60 years but with now more than 2 months of no baseball and it becoming more and more likely starting by July 4th won't happen, I find baseball rarely crosses my mind except when I log on here or see something about the negotiations in the paper.

2 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2020 - 6:58AM #2
newinn
Posts: 35,333

Jun 8, 2020 -- 4:45PM, Rob wrote:


MLB has made a new proposal to the Players Association that called for players to receive 50 percent of their prorated salaries in a 76-game regular season, plus no draft pick compensation if a player is made a qualifying offer, rejects it and signs with another team.


Honestly, each counter offer by the owenrs and players seems to drive them farther apart rather than inch toward a solution.


I have been a Yankee fan for more than 60 years but with now more than 2 months of no baseball and it becoming more and more likely starting by July 4th won't happen, I find baseball rarely crosses my mind except when I log on here or see something about the negotiations in the paper.




I'm so thankful to have golf as a diversion. I always looked forward to sitting down at night and put on a Yankee game and I still miss it as TV is so unbelievably bad

2 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2020 - 5:27PM #3
manbot
Posts: 753

Perfect time for the owners to Lock out the players and get some control back. 


The FANs realize that they can live without baseball and arent much interested in a shortened season. 


They players are already crying poverty ... lock the ****es and take back control !

2 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2020 - 6:39PM #4
newinn
Posts: 35,333

I agree, The owners are in very difficult financial shape. Heck if they put their teams up for sale, they probably would get a measely 2 billion

2 months ago  ::  Jun 09, 2020 - 9:08PM #5
Rob
Posts: 539

Jun 9, 2020 -- 6:58AM, newinn wrote:


Jun 8, 2020 -- 4:45PM, Rob wrote:


MLB has made a new proposal to the Players Association that called for players to receive 50 percent of their prorated salaries in a 76-game regular season, plus no draft pick compensation if a player is made a qualifying offer, rejects it and signs with another team.


Honestly, each counter offer by the owenrs and players seems to drive them farther apart rather than inch toward a solution.


I have been a Yankee fan for more than 60 years but with now more than 2 months of no baseball and it becoming more and more likely starting by July 4th won't happen, I find baseball rarely crosses my mind except when I log on here or see something about the negotiations in the paper.




I'm so thankful to have golf as a diversion. I always looked forward to sitting down at night and put on a Yankee game and I still miss it as TV is so unbelievably bad




Hi, New


We spend our summers in Maine in a 175 year old farm hous so ther is always a project to work on.  i'll go to the local course now and then and hit a bucket, but unless I want to just try and hook up with random folks don't really have any one to play with and I don't really enjjoy playing alone.


Our evening routine in the summer used to be to watch a movie or something.  I'd have the Yankee game on my phone on mute then turn my full attention the last coupel of innings.  I think if the season had actually started then got shut down it would be different, but I somehow don't miss it anywhere near as much as I thought I would.  And I sure don't miss west coast night games.


Manfred has floated the idea of "imposing" a 50 game season.  If they can't play at least 81 games I don't think they should bother.  I know i probably won't spring for MLB.TV for 50 games.

2 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2020 - 10:11AM #6
Rob
Posts: 539

Jun 9, 2020 -- 6:39PM, newinn wrote:


I agree, The owners are in very difficult financial shape. Heck if they put their teams up for sale, they probably would get a measely 2 billion




The players are right not to trust anything the owners say about finances absent a look at their books.  If, as the owners claim, they will lose money playing games in the absence of fans, is it actually costing owners out of pocket dollars or is it merely an accounting trick?   


The owners definitely will see a major decrease in income absent fans in the stands.  The owners have every right not to pay the players for games not played, but if they want the workers (players) to share the pain by working for reduced wages when times are tough they need to be willing to share the benefits of the good times.  We certainly know the owners are not going to offer bonuses if revenues in future seasons are better than expected.


I don’t know what the answer is but an 81 game season with the players being paid 100% of their negotiated salaries pro-rated for the number of games played but with anything over, say, $10 M deferred seems fair to both sides.

2 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2020 - 10:24AM #7
SSBob
Posts: 5,076

I do miss it, but not as much as I thought I would, which surprises me.


We usually combine a visit to at least one, usually two, Yankee "away" games during the summer to check out different ballparks. We had Cleveland & Pittsburgh on the schedule this year but that, of course, had to be canceled, which was really disappointing. Yanks won't play the Pirates for another 3 years now, and may not even go to PNC then, which I was really looking forward to seeing.


During "normal" times, if I'm home I always have the games on but may not be glued to the TV. It's easier for me since most of AZ does not recognize Daylight Savings Time so we're essentially on Pacific Time, which means east coast games are on at 4:00 and so on. West Coast games are no problem for me since we're on the same time. If my wife wants to watch something else on the "big" TV I'll go to another room or my office to watch.


If this season is a total wash, which it looks like it will be, I'll just look forward to the start of 2021 Spring Training.



2 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2020 - 12:25PM #8
prof. quiz
Posts: 8,937

Jun 10, 2020 -- 10:24AM, SSBob wrote:


I do miss it, but not as much as I thought I would, which surprises me.




Same here. I thought I'd be jonesing a lot more than I am. 


The NY Rangers will be 1 of 24 teams out of 31 playing in a restructured playoff series.


The Yankees are great and I'm looking forward to #28 and the Rangers are close to getting #5.



2 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2020 - 12:27PM #9
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 79,151

I miss our Yankees ... wish the owners and players would come to agreement.

2 months ago  ::  Jun 10, 2020 - 3:10PM #10
bumper
Posts: 7,021

baseball or not, days are pretty full here in the beautiful green mtn state - golfing, gardening, kayaking, but by 7 usually prepping dinner, watching a yankee game and interacting with you all in the game threads. other than baseball and some pbs programs, the tv remains off, so yeah really miss the games and rooting for our team.

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