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3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 3:14PM #131
yank0428
Posts: 18,440

Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:11PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 1:19PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:14PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 11:53AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:49AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Cuomo garnered enough respect for the public to follow his lead In bringing down the curve. Yeah a vital business is important but a life takes presidence over money. What good Is making oodles if your 6 feet under?


As the majority of our country is on fire, I think Cuomo did an admirable job analyzing data and taking advice from medical experts to formulate a plan in reducing the rate of infection. His strategy enabled him to maintains a low infection rate.


Yeah mistakes is part of trying to get it right. Compared to what other governors has done in following Trump's lead. It's nothing short of disaster.


You might have disdain for him, but on the whole I give him lots of credit for handling Covid-19. Numbers don't lie, the number of fatalities has dramatically come to a halt as many States are on fire. I'll exchange the ability to have a drink to safe a life any day of the week.




Stay home if your at risk or elderly. Do social distancing seriously, take action against those businesses who don't but let people live if the curve has flattened . He had to shut things down because NY had it the worst of any State. The most deaths by a lot. Other states didn't have that issue till now. Now he takes laps like some hero while ignoring all those seniors killed because he sent covid patients back to nursing homes. Big mistake, excuses for him made but he gets a pass while anything Trump has done, pro gets ignored while all you hear is the negatives. Case in point your post




If you actually read my post I acknowledged his mistakes. Recognizing you are going to highlight it on your response. Elderly don't live in a bubble. They socialize with various family members. At least that's the case for most families. In that socialization exposure to careless members can be detrimental.


Your response also points to your disdain for our governor. It seems what he has accomplished is trival by your estimation. Compared that to Trump and some governors as situation has taken a negative turn... I'm guessing you cannot find in yourself to give him an ounce of credit. 


Yet Trump who thinks Covid-19 will miraculously disappear without a plan outside of some questionable intervention is worthy of your admiration. A president who's only concern that "his" voters in red states remains viable enough prior to election day to cast a ballot for him...and to hell with everyone else's safety. And you have problems with Cuomo?




 Cuomo after his disaster with the elderly sending them back from hospitals to nursing homes to infect others, nice spin by you has done better with the the help of the President. He gave him everything he asked for and more. Hospital beds in the Javits Center put up in days. More ventilators then they could use.He sent the UUS Comfort sent to NYC. Was that good? Can you say it? 


They made mistakes and have done other things well in the response of course you wont give Trump any credit at all while even Cuomo could.


Cuomo Praises Trump's Response to the Wuhan Coronavirus: 'Phenomenal Accomplishment'


New York Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo was asked on Sunday whether or not he has faith in President Trump when it comes to handling the Wuhan coronavirus. Gov. Cuomo made it clear that he not only trusts the president but that what Trump and his administration have done was nothing short of a "phenomenal accomplishment."



"What the federal government did working with states was a phenomenal accomplishment," the governor marveled. "We bent the curve. We flattened the curve. Government did it. People did it, but government facilitates people's actions, right?"


Gov. Cuomo has consistently praised the president for helping New Yorkers while the state quickly emerged as an international hotspot of the Wuhan coronavirus. Only on the issue of ventilators, when Gov. Cuomo anticipated New York would need some 40,000 ventilators, were the president and the governor at odds. Trump expected the actual number of ventilators New York needed to be much lower, and Trump was right. Instead of 40,000 ventilators, New York needed about 5,000. The state now has so many ventilators they have begun sending them to other states.


"We had to double the hospital capacity in New York State," Gov. Cumo recalled on Sunday. "That's what all the experts said. The president brought in the Army Corps of Engineers. They built 2,500 at Javits ... It was a phenomenal accomplishment. Close to a thousand people have gone through Javits. Luckily, we didn't need the 2,500 beds. But all the projections said we did need it and more ... so these were just extraordinary efforts and acts of mobilization, and the federal government stepped up and was a great partner, and I'm the first one to say it. We needed help and they were there." 




 Ignored just like they violence by the peaceful protestors. SMH.




The bottomline....After Cuomo's strategic plan did the numbers of fatalities/ cases come down dramatically?  Yes or No???? 




Yes after he botched it in the begining and with the help of the Fed it did come down. 

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 3:15PM #132
laurenfrances
Posts: 39,526

Jul 28, 2020 -- 2:16PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 1:19PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:14PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 11:53AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:49AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Cuomo garnered enough respect for the public to follow his lead In bringing down the curve. Yeah a vital business is important but a life takes presidence over money. What good Is making oodles if your 6 feet under?


As the majority of our country is on fire, I think Cuomo did an admirable job analyzing data and taking advice from medical experts to formulate a plan in reducing the rate of infection. His strategy enabled him to maintains a low infection rate.


Yeah mistakes is part of trying to get it right. Compared to what other governors has done in following Trump's lead. It's nothing short of disaster.


You might have disdain for him, but on the whole I give him lots of credit for handling Covid-19. Numbers don't lie, the number of fatalities has dramatically come to a halt as many States are on fire. I'll exchange the ability to have a drink to safe a life any day of the week.




Stay home if your at risk or elderly. Do social distancing seriously, take action against those businesses who don't but let people live if the curve has flattened . He had to shut things down because NY had it the worst of any State. The most deaths by a lot. Other states didn't have that issue till now. Now he takes laps like some hero while ignoring all those seniors killed because he sent covid patients back to nursing homes. Big mistake, excuses for him made but he gets a pass while anything Trump has done, pro gets ignored while all you hear is the negatives. Case in point your post




If you actually read my post I acknowledged his mistakes. Recognizing you are going to highlight it on your response. Elderly don't live in a bubble. They socialize with various family members. At least that's the case for most families. In that socialization exposure to careless members can be detrimental.


Your response also points to your disdain for our governor. It seems what he has accomplished is trival by your estimation. Compared that to Trump and some governors as situation has taken a negative turn... I'm guessing you cannot find in yourself to give him an ounce of credit. 


Yet Trump who thinks Covid-19 will miraculously disappear without a plan outside of some questionable intervention is worthy of your admiration. A president who's only concern that "his" voters in red states remains viable enough prior to election day to cast a ballot for him...and to hell with everyone else's safety. And you have problems with Cuomo?




 Cuomo after his disaster with the elderly sending them back from hospitals to nursing homes to infect others, nice spin by you has done better with the the help of the President. He gave him everything he asked for and more. Hospital beds in the Javits Center put up in days. More ventilators then they could use.He sent the UUS Comfort sent to NYC. Was that good? Can you say it? 


They made mistakes and have done other things well in the response of course you wont give Trump any credit at all while even Cuomo could.


Cuomo Praises Trump's Response to the Wuhan Coronavirus: 'Phenomenal Accomplishment'


New York Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo was asked on Sunday whether or not he has faith in President Trump when it comes to handling the Wuhan coronavirus. Gov. Cuomo made it clear that he not only trusts the president but that what Trump and his administration have done was nothing short of a "phenomenal accomplishment."



"What the federal government did working with states was a phenomenal accomplishment," the governor marveled. "We bent the curve. We flattened the curve. Government did it. People did it, but government facilitates people's actions, right?"


Gov. Cuomo has consistently praised the president for helping New Yorkers while the state quickly emerged as an international hotspot of the Wuhan coronavirus. Only on the issue of ventilators, when Gov. Cuomo anticipated New York would need some 40,000 ventilators, were the president and the governor at odds. Trump expected the actual number of ventilators New York needed to be much lower, and Trump was right. Instead of 40,000 ventilators, New York needed about 5,000. The state now has so many ventilators they have begun sending them to other states.


"We had to double the hospital capacity in New York State," Gov. Cumo recalled on Sunday. "That's what all the experts said. The president brought in the Army Corps of Engineers. They built 2,500 at Javits ... It was a phenomenal accomplishment. Close to a thousand people have gone through Javits. Luckily, we didn't need the 2,500 beds. But all the projections said we did need it and more ... so these were just extraordinary efforts and acts of mobilization, and the federal government stepped up and was a great partner, and I'm the first one to say it. We needed help and they were there." 




 Ignored just like they violence by the peaceful protestors. SMH.




The only reason Cuomo praised Trump is because he realizes he is dealing with an egomaniac ... he needed PPE and Ventilators, along with help getting more beds ... so he praised Trump to make sure he could get them.




Dispite the fact Cuomo was able to dramatically reduce fatalities...As with Trump supporters..Trump can do no wrong and Cuomo get zero credit for doing something right.

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 3:16PM #133
yank0428
Posts: 18,440

Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:11PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 1:19PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:14PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 11:53AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:49AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Cuomo garnered enough respect for the public to follow his lead In bringing down the curve. Yeah a vital business is important but a life takes presidence over money. What good Is making oodles if your 6 feet under?


As the majority of our country is on fire, I think Cuomo did an admirable job analyzing data and taking advice from medical experts to formulate a plan in reducing the rate of infection. His strategy enabled him to maintains a low infection rate.


Yeah mistakes is part of trying to get it right. Compared to what other governors has done in following Trump's lead. It's nothing short of disaster.


You might have disdain for him, but on the whole I give him lots of credit for handling Covid-19. Numbers don't lie, the number of fatalities has dramatically come to a halt as many States are on fire. I'll exchange the ability to have a drink to safe a life any day of the week.




Stay home if your at risk or elderly. Do social distancing seriously, take action against those businesses who don't but let people live if the curve has flattened . He had to shut things down because NY had it the worst of any State. The most deaths by a lot. Other states didn't have that issue till now. Now he takes laps like some hero while ignoring all those seniors killed because he sent covid patients back to nursing homes. Big mistake, excuses for him made but he gets a pass while anything Trump has done, pro gets ignored while all you hear is the negatives. Case in point your post




If you actually read my post I acknowledged his mistakes. Recognizing you are going to highlight it on your response. Elderly don't live in a bubble. They socialize with various family members. At least that's the case for most families. In that socialization exposure to careless members can be detrimental.


Your response also points to your disdain for our governor. It seems what he has accomplished is trival by your estimation. Compared that to Trump and some governors as situation has taken a negative turn... I'm guessing you cannot find in yourself to give him an ounce of credit. 


Yet Trump who thinks Covid-19 will miraculously disappear without a plan outside of some questionable intervention is worthy of your admiration. A president who's only concern that "his" voters in red states remains viable enough prior to election day to cast a ballot for him...and to hell with everyone else's safety. And you have problems with Cuomo?




 Cuomo after his disaster with the elderly sending them back from hospitals to nursing homes to infect others, nice spin by you has done better with the the help of the President. He gave him everything he asked for and more. Hospital beds in the Javits Center put up in days. More ventilators then they could use.He sent the UUS Comfort sent to NYC. Was that good? Can you say it? 


They made mistakes and have done other things well in the response of course you wont give Trump any credit at all while even Cuomo could.


Cuomo Praises Trump's Response to the Wuhan Coronavirus: 'Phenomenal Accomplishment'


New York Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo was asked on Sunday whether or not he has faith in President Trump when it comes to handling the Wuhan coronavirus. Gov. Cuomo made it clear that he not only trusts the president but that what Trump and his administration have done was nothing short of a "phenomenal accomplishment."



"What the federal government did working with states was a phenomenal accomplishment," the governor marveled. "We bent the curve. We flattened the curve. Government did it. People did it, but government facilitates people's actions, right?"


Gov. Cuomo has consistently praised the president for helping New Yorkers while the state quickly emerged as an international hotspot of the Wuhan coronavirus. Only on the issue of ventilators, when Gov. Cuomo anticipated New York would need some 40,000 ventilators, were the president and the governor at odds. Trump expected the actual number of ventilators New York needed to be much lower, and Trump was right. Instead of 40,000 ventilators, New York needed about 5,000. The state now has so many ventilators they have begun sending them to other states.


"We had to double the hospital capacity in New York State," Gov. Cumo recalled on Sunday. "That's what all the experts said. The president brought in the Army Corps of Engineers. They built 2,500 at Javits ... It was a phenomenal accomplishment. Close to a thousand people have gone through Javits. Luckily, we didn't need the 2,500 beds. But all the projections said we did need it and more ... so these were just extraordinary efforts and acts of mobilization, and the federal government stepped up and was a great partner, and I'm the first one to say it. We needed help and they were there." 




 Ignored just like they violence by the peaceful protestors. SMH.




The bottomline....After Cuomo's strategic plan did the numbers of fatalities/ cases come down dramatically?  Yes or No???? 




 I'm not at a Den controlled congessional hearing so I will give more then a Yes or a No answer.
Yes after he botched it in the begining and with the help of the Fed it did come down. 

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 3:19PM #134
laurenfrances
Posts: 39,526

Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:14PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:11PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 1:19PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:14PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 11:53AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:49AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Cuomo garnered enough respect for the public to follow his lead In bringing down the curve. Yeah a vital business is important but a life takes presidence over money. What good Is making oodles if your 6 feet under?


As the majority of our country is on fire, I think Cuomo did an admirable job analyzing data and taking advice from medical experts to formulate a plan in reducing the rate of infection. His strategy enabled him to maintains a low infection rate.


Yeah mistakes is part of trying to get it right. Compared to what other governors has done in following Trump's lead. It's nothing short of disaster.


You might have disdain for him, but on the whole I give him lots of credit for handling Covid-19. Numbers don't lie, the number of fatalities has dramatically come to a halt as many States are on fire. I'll exchange the ability to have a drink to safe a life any day of the week.




Stay home if your at risk or elderly. Do social distancing seriously, take action against those businesses who don't but let people live if the curve has flattened . He had to shut things down because NY had it the worst of any State. The most deaths by a lot. Other states didn't have that issue till now. Now he takes laps like some hero while ignoring all those seniors killed because he sent covid patients back to nursing homes. Big mistake, excuses for him made but he gets a pass while anything Trump has done, pro gets ignored while all you hear is the negatives. Case in point your post




If you actually read my post I acknowledged his mistakes. Recognizing you are going to highlight it on your response. Elderly don't live in a bubble. They socialize with various family members. At least that's the case for most families. In that socialization exposure to careless members can be detrimental.


Your response also points to your disdain for our governor. It seems what he has accomplished is trival by your estimation. Compared that to Trump and some governors as situation has taken a negative turn... I'm guessing you cannot find in yourself to give him an ounce of credit. 


Yet Trump who thinks Covid-19 will miraculously disappear without a plan outside of some questionable intervention is worthy of your admiration. A president who's only concern that "his" voters in red states remains viable enough prior to election day to cast a ballot for him...and to hell with everyone else's safety. And you have problems with Cuomo?




 Cuomo after his disaster with the elderly sending them back from hospitals to nursing homes to infect others, nice spin by you has done better with the the help of the President. He gave him everything he asked for and more. Hospital beds in the Javits Center put up in days. More ventilators then they could use.He sent the UUS Comfort sent to NYC. Was that good? Can you say it? 


They made mistakes and have done other things well in the response of course you wont give Trump any credit at all while even Cuomo could.


Cuomo Praises Trump's Response to the Wuhan Coronavirus: 'Phenomenal Accomplishment'


New York Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo was asked on Sunday whether or not he has faith in President Trump when it comes to handling the Wuhan coronavirus. Gov. Cuomo made it clear that he not only trusts the president but that what Trump and his administration have done was nothing short of a "phenomenal accomplishment."



"What the federal government did working with states was a phenomenal accomplishment," the governor marveled. "We bent the curve. We flattened the curve. Government did it. People did it, but government facilitates people's actions, right?"


Gov. Cuomo has consistently praised the president for helping New Yorkers while the state quickly emerged as an international hotspot of the Wuhan coronavirus. Only on the issue of ventilators, when Gov. Cuomo anticipated New York would need some 40,000 ventilators, were the president and the governor at odds. Trump expected the actual number of ventilators New York needed to be much lower, and Trump was right. Instead of 40,000 ventilators, New York needed about 5,000. The state now has so many ventilators they have begun sending them to other states.


"We had to double the hospital capacity in New York State," Gov. Cumo recalled on Sunday. "That's what all the experts said. The president brought in the Army Corps of Engineers. They built 2,500 at Javits ... It was a phenomenal accomplishment. Close to a thousand people have gone through Javits. Luckily, we didn't need the 2,500 beds. But all the projections said we did need it and more ... so these were just extraordinary efforts and acts of mobilization, and the federal government stepped up and was a great partner, and I'm the first one to say it. We needed help and they were there." 




 Ignored just like they violence by the peaceful protestors. SMH.




The bottomline....After Cuomo's strategic plan did the numbers of fatalities/ cases come down dramatically?  Yes or No???? 




Yes after he botched it in the begining and with the help of the Fed it did come down. 




Cuomo had to flatterTrump up the wazoo to squeeze something from him.  Was Cuomo's analysis of data initiate from Trump? Cuomo essentially ignored Trump's pie in the sky scenario and went on his own. Are the Fed helping him now?  Some how he's able to keep fatalities low inspite of many States on fire.  


So tell me about the other States like Florida, Arizona, and Texas following Trump's lead with Feds assistance? How are they doing? 

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 3:33PM #135
laurenfrances
Posts: 39,526

Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:16PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:11PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 1:19PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:14PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 11:53AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:49AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Cuomo garnered enough respect for the public to follow his lead In bringing down the curve. Yeah a vital business is important but a life takes presidence over money. What good Is making oodles if your 6 feet under?


As the majority of our country is on fire, I think Cuomo did an admirable job analyzing data and taking advice from medical experts to formulate a plan in reducing the rate of infection. His strategy enabled him to maintains a low infection rate.


Yeah mistakes is part of trying to get it right. Compared to what other governors has done in following Trump's lead. It's nothing short of disaster.


You might have disdain for him, but on the whole I give him lots of credit for handling Covid-19. Numbers don't lie, the number of fatalities has dramatically come to a halt as many States are on fire. I'll exchange the ability to have a drink to safe a life any day of the week.




Stay home if your at risk or elderly. Do social distancing seriously, take action against those businesses who don't but let people live if the curve has flattened . He had to shut things down because NY had it the worst of any State. The most deaths by a lot. Other states didn't have that issue till now. Now he takes laps like some hero while ignoring all those seniors killed because he sent covid patients back to nursing homes. Big mistake, excuses for him made but he gets a pass while anything Trump has done, pro gets ignored while all you hear is the negatives. Case in point your post




If you actually read my post I acknowledged his mistakes. Recognizing you are going to highlight it on your response. Elderly don't live in a bubble. They socialize with various family members. At least that's the case for most families. In that socialization exposure to careless members can be detrimental.


Your response also points to your disdain for our governor. It seems what he has accomplished is trival by your estimation. Compared that to Trump and some governors as situation has taken a negative turn... I'm guessing you cannot find in yourself to give him an ounce of credit. 


Yet Trump who thinks Covid-19 will miraculously disappear without a plan outside of some questionable intervention is worthy of your admiration. A president who's only concern that "his" voters in red states remains viable enough prior to election day to cast a ballot for him...and to hell with everyone else's safety. And you have problems with Cuomo?




 Cuomo after his disaster with the elderly sending them back from hospitals to nursing homes to infect others, nice spin by you has done better with the the help of the President. He gave him everything he asked for and more. Hospital beds in the Javits Center put up in days. More ventilators then they could use.He sent the UUS Comfort sent to NYC. Was that good? Can you say it? 


They made mistakes and have done other things well in the response of course you wont give Trump any credit at all while even Cuomo could.


Cuomo Praises Trump's Response to the Wuhan Coronavirus: 'Phenomenal Accomplishment'


New York Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo was asked on Sunday whether or not he has faith in President Trump when it comes to handling the Wuhan coronavirus. Gov. Cuomo made it clear that he not only trusts the president but that what Trump and his administration have done was nothing short of a "phenomenal accomplishment."



"What the federal government did working with states was a phenomenal accomplishment," the governor marveled. "We bent the curve. We flattened the curve. Government did it. People did it, but government facilitates people's actions, right?"


Gov. Cuomo has consistently praised the president for helping New Yorkers while the state quickly emerged as an international hotspot of the Wuhan coronavirus. Only on the issue of ventilators, when Gov. Cuomo anticipated New York would need some 40,000 ventilators, were the president and the governor at odds. Trump expected the actual number of ventilators New York needed to be much lower, and Trump was right. Instead of 40,000 ventilators, New York needed about 5,000. The state now has so many ventilators they have begun sending them to other states.


"We had to double the hospital capacity in New York State," Gov. Cumo recalled on Sunday. "That's what all the experts said. The president brought in the Army Corps of Engineers. They built 2,500 at Javits ... It was a phenomenal accomplishment. Close to a thousand people have gone through Javits. Luckily, we didn't need the 2,500 beds. But all the projections said we did need it and more ... so these were just extraordinary efforts and acts of mobilization, and the federal government stepped up and was a great partner, and I'm the first one to say it. We needed help and they were there." 




 Ignored just like they violence by the peaceful protestors. SMH.




The bottomline....After Cuomo's strategic plan did the numbers of fatalities/ cases come down dramatically?  Yes or No???? 




 I'm not at a Den controlled congessional hearing so I will give more then a Yes or a No answer.
Yes after he botched it in the begining and with the help of the Fed it did come down. 




And the Feds are helping Florida, Texas and Arizona ...how are they doing????

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 4:17PM #136
yank0428
Posts: 18,440

Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:33PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:16PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:11PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 1:19PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:14PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 11:53AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:49AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Cuomo garnered enough respect for the public to follow his lead In bringing down the curve. Yeah a vital business is important but a life takes presidence over money. What good Is making oodles if your 6 feet under?


As the majority of our country is on fire, I think Cuomo did an admirable job analyzing data and taking advice from medical experts to formulate a plan in reducing the rate of infection. His strategy enabled him to maintains a low infection rate.


Yeah mistakes is part of trying to get it right. Compared to what other governors has done in following Trump's lead. It's nothing short of disaster.


You might have disdain for him, but on the whole I give him lots of credit for handling Covid-19. Numbers don't lie, the number of fatalities has dramatically come to a halt as many States are on fire. I'll exchange the ability to have a drink to safe a life any day of the week.




Stay home if your at risk or elderly. Do social distancing seriously, take action against those businesses who don't but let people live if the curve has flattened . He had to shut things down because NY had it the worst of any State. The most deaths by a lot. Other states didn't have that issue till now. Now he takes laps like some hero while ignoring all those seniors killed because he sent covid patients back to nursing homes. Big mistake, excuses for him made but he gets a pass while anything Trump has done, pro gets ignored while all you hear is the negatives. Case in point your post




If you actually read my post I acknowledged his mistakes. Recognizing you are going to highlight it on your response. Elderly don't live in a bubble. They socialize with various family members. At least that's the case for most families. In that socialization exposure to careless members can be detrimental.


Your response also points to your disdain for our governor. It seems what he has accomplished is trival by your estimation. Compared that to Trump and some governors as situation has taken a negative turn... I'm guessing you cannot find in yourself to give him an ounce of credit. 


Yet Trump who thinks Covid-19 will miraculously disappear without a plan outside of some questionable intervention is worthy of your admiration. A president who's only concern that "his" voters in red states remains viable enough prior to election day to cast a ballot for him...and to hell with everyone else's safety. And you have problems with Cuomo?




 Cuomo after his disaster with the elderly sending them back from hospitals to nursing homes to infect others, nice spin by you has done better with the the help of the President. He gave him everything he asked for and more. Hospital beds in the Javits Center put up in days. More ventilators then they could use.He sent the UUS Comfort sent to NYC. Was that good? Can you say it? 


They made mistakes and have done other things well in the response of course you wont give Trump any credit at all while even Cuomo could.


Cuomo Praises Trump's Response to the Wuhan Coronavirus: 'Phenomenal Accomplishment'


New York Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo was asked on Sunday whether or not he has faith in President Trump when it comes to handling the Wuhan coronavirus. Gov. Cuomo made it clear that he not only trusts the president but that what Trump and his administration have done was nothing short of a "phenomenal accomplishment."



"What the federal government did working with states was a phenomenal accomplishment," the governor marveled. "We bent the curve. We flattened the curve. Government did it. People did it, but government facilitates people's actions, right?"


Gov. Cuomo has consistently praised the president for helping New Yorkers while the state quickly emerged as an international hotspot of the Wuhan coronavirus. Only on the issue of ventilators, when Gov. Cuomo anticipated New York would need some 40,000 ventilators, were the president and the governor at odds. Trump expected the actual number of ventilators New York needed to be much lower, and Trump was right. Instead of 40,000 ventilators, New York needed about 5,000. The state now has so many ventilators they have begun sending them to other states.


"We had to double the hospital capacity in New York State," Gov. Cumo recalled on Sunday. "That's what all the experts said. The president brought in the Army Corps of Engineers. They built 2,500 at Javits ... It was a phenomenal accomplishment. Close to a thousand people have gone through Javits. Luckily, we didn't need the 2,500 beds. But all the projections said we did need it and more ... so these were just extraordinary efforts and acts of mobilization, and the federal government stepped up and was a great partner, and I'm the first one to say it. We needed help and they were there." 




 Ignored just like they violence by the peaceful protestors. SMH.




The bottomline....After Cuomo's strategic plan did the numbers of fatalities/ cases come down dramatically?  Yes or No???? 




 I'm not at a Den controlled congessional hearing so I will give more then a Yes or a No answer.
Yes after he botched it in the begining and with the help of the Fed it did come down. 




And the Feds are helping Florida, Texas and Arizona ...how are they doing????




They aren't doing great right now. Still much better the New York, Ct and NJ overall.Death rates per 100,000 much better . 


www.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#cases


 Trump will give aide to any state that asks. You don't think he knows Cuomo and Newsome don't like him and will forget about the help he gave as the elections near. Trump even was nice that fool DeBlasio when he talked to him.They didn't have to kiss up to him, just call and ask. 


 I'm glad he is sending money to the companies who show promise of a potential vaccine. Thats good. Hopefully something by the end of the year.

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 4:55PM #137
Max
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Jul 25, 2020 -- 12:01PM, yank0428 wrote:


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Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:58PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:45PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:31PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 6:51PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 3:38PM, yank0428 wrote:


I didn't vote for Trump so your wrong again. Rather someone else was running but he is and he's  not Biden, Pelosi or Schumer. 




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As I recall, you were a strong Kasich supporter in '16. What's your feeling re his intention to speak at the Democratic Convention in support of Biden?




I know Kasich doesn't like Trump. He has the right to support who he wants but if he does support Biden he should switch parties.


 I honestly think Biden will be a puppet to the far left libs. 


 Whats your thoughts on this?  


Joe Biden’s disastrous plans for America’s suburbs   


nypost.com/2020/07/21/joe-bidens-disastr...




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I assume you had a valid reason for supporting Kasich. Just seems odd that now you feel he should change parties simply because he doesn't support Trump, much like many truly conservative Republicans. That list is very long.


As for the NY Post "disastrous plan" sensational headline, I'd have to research that further before forming an opinion. 




I supported Kasich because I thought he might have a chance to bring both parties together. Those days are gone after the last few years .If he is going to support Biden who is the pocket of the far left libs I feel he should change parties.


 I don't consider any of those in the Lincoln project conservatives. IMO no true conservative could support Biden. Sanctuary cities. Healthcare for those here illegally. Weaking our military. Defunding our Police. It's more that they let their personal dislike for Trump affect them. Lets be real they all have been in the in the swamp forever.




This is what trumpies like you have trouble understanding, the Lincold Project supports our country and it's people, they can see donald and you troumpies only seem to care about lining your/their pockets as donald and his family have since they walked through the doors of the WH... It's about time some people, whether it's (D) or (R) start looking at whats good for this country, it's for sure the (R) that are in power right now have that the furthurist from their minds... Working together is what our forfathers wanted, a coutry run by one man that wants to be a dictator is not what they had in mind !!!




 The Lincoln Project is a bunch of political hacks who are the embodiment of the swamp. Nobody but the left cares what they think.


So old wise one whats good for our country? Politicians who let the mob rule. Politicians who ignore laws they don't like but enforce other laws that suit their agenda. Pour paint on a BLM sign it's a hate crime. Paint Kill the Pigs on a church and ignore it. Do you see what's going on in Dem run cities? Portland where Biden is ignoring the violence but call out for egregious acts the Feds Law enforcement there to protect fed property . Seattle dem mayor lets them take over a city calling it a summer of love while two kids where killed there. Chicago where the Mayor calls out the President who offers help but does nothing about the slaughter of blacks every week going on there. Who caters to the mob taking a statue down of Columbus in the middle of the night.In NYC you have Cops getting assaulted but the GOV, Mayor and state AG are more interested in a Cop who pushed a protestor down. Focus on closing restaurants who serve people a few beers without food but encourage thousands march the streets during a pandemic. Nothing to do with lining our pocketbooks. The poltical hacks just bent over backwards to shut down a Back the Blue protest on LongIsland saying speakers from out of the state wouldn't be allowed into the state during the lockdown. Do you see there is freedom of speech only for those who support their narrative. That's OK to you. 14 Cops killed since George Floyd was murdered. Every Police Officer I know thought that was criminal and terrible but silence from the left on those Cops. Silence from the left on David Dorn. Change your name to YankeeOldFool. 


 Oh he is one of the founders of BLM.Great marxist group who is in favor of breaking up families. This is who the Left support over the Police.


Black Lives Matter leader Charles Wade charged with sex trafficking


www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/19...


 The left caters to the loudest voices but the silent majority is watching in disgust and this will shock you but it's a lot of black people. They want law and order because they are the victims who suffer the most.




How can you mention someone that lets the mob rule ??? We have one of the biggest Mob/Gangster guy as out POTUS... donald is forcing his way into these Dem controlled states/cities trying to make them look bad, it's not working, I know you trumpies like to blame everything on the Dems... Your kind of like donald, he/trumpies never take any blame, arguing with you is like talking to my grass when I mow it !!!




Are you watching whats going on in these Dem run cities? You can't be that clueless. You have Pelosi calling Fed agents Stormtroopers. Not one Dem speaks out against these peaceful riots. Not one says anything about Officers killed, attacked and injured. Just we support peaceful protests ignoring those that aren't. Attacks on Fedreral property. Officers getting blinded by lasers while city officials do nothing. 


Posting to you in like talking to the class Dunce when he gets some free time from standing in the corner.


 Take control of their cities and Trump doesn't have to send anybody there. These rioters aren't protestors. They are anarchists who know they can get away with this in weakly governed cities. You have people who are to dumb to know that and are getting dragged into it with them. Some buy it on here. They keep this up they are making them kook bad., not Trump.


Do you leave your house and talk to people or just stay in this little bubble? Most people see this. They might not like Trump or even vote for him but they see whats going on




I have seen many Democrats speak out against rioters. Democrats also fight for laws to try to make it harder for criminals to get weapons, which would make a Police Officers' job safer and easier.  Three years ago, Pelosi might have been the first politician to call Antifa terrorists.


  “Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts.”  “The violent actions of people calling themselves Antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.


"In California, as across all of our great nation, we have deep reverence for the Constitutional right to peaceful dissent and free speech,” “Non-violence is fundamental to that right. Let us use this sad event to reaffirm that we must never fight hate with hate, and to remember the values of peace, openness and justice that represent the best of America.” ~ Nancy Pelosi




 Chicago has strick gun laws. Hows that working? Criminals get weapons. Always have always will. Backing the Police stops the violence. Putting handcuffs on them you get these riots , property destruction, looting and people assaulted and killed.


Where is Pelosi now? Last I heard from her she had no problem with them tearing down statues. 


 Somebody should tell Nadler. Clown show.This is what I see. I hear them harp on the peaceful protestors and ignore the violence. 


Jerry Nadler claims antifa violence is a myth


youtu.be/psP70YpZxgQ




I never heard of Pelosi condoning vandalism. Are you sure Nadler didn't mean that it's a myth when people try to link the peaceful protesters with antifa? I will have to hear more from him because I doubt he was denying that there isn't violence in Portland. Chicago has strict gun laws but some of the states around them don't, which is the same problem the NYPD says NY has when guns come to NY from out of state.





 She's real tough on vandalism.


 https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/09/nancy-pelosi-on-mobs-removing-statues-people-will-do-what-they-do/


 Max if all the surrounding states had strict gun laws criminals would still get guns. If the whole country had strict gun laws. Criminals would still get weapons.They only way to stop them is by proactive Policing which isn't allowed anymore.




The criminals might still get weapons but it would be a lot harder for them to do so.


As I said Pelosi hasn't condoned vandalism and she must have been the first to call antifa terrorists. Here's the question she was asked and her full answer.


QUESTION: Should not be done by respectfully, shouldn't be done by a Commission or the City Council, not a mob in the middle of the night throwing it into the harbor?

PELOSI: People will do what they do. It's it is I do think that from a safety standpoint it would be a good idea to have it taken down at the community doesn't want it. I don't know that it has to be a Commission, but it just could be a community view. And sometimes, it's something that's been there that view has been there for a while.




 Just like they can always get drugs to sell they will find a way to get weapons. As far as gun laws I agree in some states they need stronger background checks but the Dems will go to far 
Pelosi should be condemming it. They want to have a commision that's fair. These people are breaking laws by tearing them down and it's mostly ignored by Dems.She also was calling the Fed agents stormtroppers. That's disgraceful. No mention of those injured.




Criminals get drugs, but there are still drug laws. The Dems who have any power want better background checks and the gun show loophole closed. That's not asking a lot. I refer to Pelosi's first quote about violence that I posted.

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 5:03PM #138
Max
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Jul 27, 2020 -- 6:55PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 5:52PM, Max wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 5:44PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 5:06PM, Max wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 1:01AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 26, 2020 -- 1:23PM, Max wrote:


Jul 26, 2020 -- 11:56AM, yank0428 wrote:



Why I can't take you seriously. You just can't get past your hatred for Trump that you post things that aren't true. 


 These cities were a mess before Trump sent any Feds. He has the right and duty to protect federal property. To say he didn't help cities when they needed help from covid just shows how blinded you are.Man you really are lost.


California governor praises Trump's efforts to help state amid coronavirus crisis


thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/492324-...


 


He Has Delivered for New York': Cuomo Praises Trump's Coronavirus Response 


www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/he-has-...


 Want a do over? Feel a little stupid? Doubt it.  Now if you listen to them you can see Trump will get past any dislike if help is needed. He will try to to the right thing but attack him he attacks back.  While they were praising him there was no doubt in my mind they will stab him in the back to win an election. They got what they wanted and more then they needed but it's already forgotten.


 Putin Putin Putin. Still wishing for that Russian collusion BS but no interest in the criminal conspiracy that took place to undermine his Presidency.You want a real scandal it's there but you libs don't have any interest when it's your party doing the dirty deed.




Trump did that after his lack of preparation and after he told Governors that they are on their own which cause the Governors to have a bidding war on PPEs and other equipment which raised the prices.


About Putin, it's all in the Mueller report to read. There was unreported contact with Russians and there were examples of Obstruction of Justice. I even posted the report along with what pages and paragraphs that showed the examples I just mentioned. As I expected, the links were ignored and not addressed.




Max YOF said he didn't help, he did. Trump was left with no PPE by Obamas admin. Yes he had 3 years to replace it but he got them what they needed. If your going to knock Trump can we send a few to a Cuomo for sending the ederly back to nursing home with covid. We mention dictators we should look to Cuomo who is now telling people what they have to eat when the go to a bar reasturant. Wings no good. Has to be something of substance. This guy is unreal.


 Max Mueller didn't even know The DNC and Clinton paid for the Steele dossier who's source was a Russian.I guess that doesn't count.  I look forward to him testifying again as much more information comes out about the corruption involved that resulted in this investigation.He was lost the last time he testified.I see him looking extremely bad this time. Actually feel sorry for him. He wasn't running the show and his best days are way behind him but he took the job.They should call that low life Weissman in.




Trump claims he was left with no PPEs, others have said there were PPEs. As you said, if there weren't PPEs Trump had three years to fill the PPE cabinet. He shouldn't have told governors that they were on their own. The nursing home issue was already addressed. NHs in NY state don't have to take infections patients if they feel that they can't care for them, for example if they can't isolate them.


Are you really going to compare what Trump did in Portland to Cuomo requiring food to be ordered with drinks? He's allowing outdoor dining not outdoor bars, because he's trying to avoid a second wave of covid-19. Things have gotten better in NY, but there's still 600-800 new cases of covid-19 being reported a day. I didn't mention the Steel Dossier, there were plenty of findings in the Mueller report without counting the Steele Dossier.





He's making all reasturants jump through hoops instead of addressing the few who are ignoring social distancing. Cuomo also goes to Georgia and is doing his meet a greets without wearing a mask. Do as I say not as I do.I have no problem what Trump is doing in Portland. They are Federal buildings under attack. Are you defending that?


 What do you mean nursiong homes were addressed? They made nursing homes take patients who had covid back in them. People died.



AP count: Over 4,500 virus patients sent to NY nursing homes



May 22, 2020




 https://apnews.com/5ebc0ad45




Meeting with a mayor without a mask for a few seconds is supposed to equate with 1000's of people drinking in a crowd? Cuomo's rule is supposed to equate with Trump sending in a Force that wasn't invited to a state? Come on.



No Food? No Booze. Cuomo Cracks Down on Outdoor Drinking at Bars.



The new rules are meant to reduce crowds outside bars and restaurants and to head off a second coronavirus wave, the governor said.


www.nytimes.com/2020/07/16/nyregion/ny-b...




I went  to a resturant near me. I know the owner. They were very good with social distancing and masks and then this came down. He said Cuomo is killing him and other restaurant's. You have dinner pay the check go to the bar for a beer and your six feet apart and are told if you order a drink you need to order food and not just wings.People leave. They have inspectors coming in to make sure this is enforced. He's gone way overboard.




This is a different issue. From what I see the restaurants where I live including the restaurants who's owners are personal friends of mine are busy. I see people eating and drinking outside and there's a longer wait for take out. But I haven't spoken to the owners, but I assume their restaurants aren't doing as well pre pandemic.


Some restaurant owners are suffering a loss in business because others didn't enforce the pandemic rules. I hear what you're saying, but there's also a second wave of covid that Cuomo has worry about and try to avoid for his state.


You brought up the Cuomo rule but I don't see how that compares to Trump's dictator actions and traits. You can call the Cuomo rule going overboard and you may not agree with the Cuomo rule. But he made a rule for his own state. It's not like he approved of sending uninvited inspectors to another state to impose his rules for NY.


Sorry, it doesn't compare to how Trump is misusing the Federal Force. In my opinion because he is misusing them, he's disrespecting them. Not that Trump cares.


The Cuomo rule also doesn't compare to how Trump threatens media outlets by saying someone should look at those media outlet's licenses, nor does Cuomo call the free press the enemy of the people, nor has Cuomo dismissed people that are in charge of over-site and checks and balances like Trump did when he dismissed independent Inspector Generals.  

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 5:05PM #139
Max
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Jul 27, 2020 -- 11:48PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 7:06PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 6:55PM, yank0428 wrote:


I went  to a resturant near me. I know the owner. They were very good with social distancing and masks and then this came down. He said Cuomo is killing him and other restaurant's. You have dinner pay the check go to the bar for a beer and your six feet apart and are told if you order a drink you need to order food and not just wings.People leave. They have inspectors coming in to make sure this is enforced. He's gone way overboard.




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It's not unique to NY...same is going on here, a Red state run by a Republican governor & legislature. Not a good time to be in the bar/restaurant business.




No it isn't. A few closed and aren't coming back. He did this because of a few isolated cases. Now the whole state has to pay.




I don't know about the rest of the state but on the local news I saw more than a few isolated cases. I heard that 105 restaurants were cited for violating social distancing rules, and that was just over the weekend.


3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 5:10PM #140
Max
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Jul 28, 2020 -- 11:53AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:49AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Cuomo garnered enough respect for the public to follow his lead In bringing down the curve. Yeah a vital business is important but a life takes presidence over money. What good Is making oodles if your 6 feet under?


As the majority of our country is on fire, I think Cuomo did an admirable job analyzing data and taking advice from medical experts to formulate a plan in reducing the rate of infection. His strategy enabled him to maintains a low infection rate.


Yeah mistakes is part of trying to get it right. Compared to what other governors has done in following Trump's lead. It's nothing short of disaster.


You might have disdain for him, but on the whole I give him lots of credit for handling Covid-19. Numbers don't lie, the number of fatalities has dramatically come to a halt as many States are on fire. I'll exchange the ability to have a drink to safe a life any day of the week.




Stay home if your at risk or elderly. Do social distancing seriously, take action against those businesses who don't but let people live if the curve has flattened . He had to shut things down because NY had it the worst of any State. The most deaths by a lot. Other states didn't have that issue till now. Now he takes laps like some hero while ignoring all those seniors killed because he sent covid patients back to nursing homes. Big mistake, excuses for him made but he gets a pass while anything Trump has done, pro gets ignored while all you hear is the negatives. Case in point your post




Why are nursing homes keep being brought up when in states like NY they don't have to take contagious patients if they feel that they can't properly take care of them. NY happens to be 35th in nursing home deaths. Other states didn't have the rules Cuomo put in place in spite of being given the heads up because of what NY was going through. The heads up that NY didn't have.


Now those states have issues in spite of Cuomo telling them months ago that what was happening in NY is their future. Cuomo's strict rules helped bend the curve. He doesn't deserve credit for that?


His press briefings are also informative and a breath of fresh air compared to Trump's late afternoon joke of a press briefing, where he spent time insulting reporters and contradicting the medical professionals.


Cuomo should take a lap, because if other states would have followed his lead there's a good chance that our country would be ahead of the virus. Cuomo is also helping other states that are in need. As far has Cuomo taking a victory lap, he set the lockdown rules, but I haven't heard him do a press briefing and not give New Yorkers the credit for bending the covid curve. 

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