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3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 5:14PM #141
Max
Posts: 5,977

Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:33PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:16PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:11PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 1:19PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:14PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 11:53AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:49AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Cuomo garnered enough respect for the public to follow his lead In bringing down the curve. Yeah a vital business is important but a life takes presidence over money. What good Is making oodles if your 6 feet under?


As the majority of our country is on fire, I think Cuomo did an admirable job analyzing data and taking advice from medical experts to formulate a plan in reducing the rate of infection. His strategy enabled him to maintains a low infection rate.


Yeah mistakes is part of trying to get it right. Compared to what other governors has done in following Trump's lead. It's nothing short of disaster.


You might have disdain for him, but on the whole I give him lots of credit for handling Covid-19. Numbers don't lie, the number of fatalities has dramatically come to a halt as many States are on fire. I'll exchange the ability to have a drink to safe a life any day of the week.




Stay home if your at risk or elderly. Do social distancing seriously, take action against those businesses who don't but let people live if the curve has flattened . He had to shut things down because NY had it the worst of any State. The most deaths by a lot. Other states didn't have that issue till now. Now he takes laps like some hero while ignoring all those seniors killed because he sent covid patients back to nursing homes. Big mistake, excuses for him made but he gets a pass while anything Trump has done, pro gets ignored while all you hear is the negatives. Case in point your post




If you actually read my post I acknowledged his mistakes. Recognizing you are going to highlight it on your response. Elderly don't live in a bubble. They socialize with various family members. At least that's the case for most families. In that socialization exposure to careless members can be detrimental.


Your response also points to your disdain for our governor. It seems what he has accomplished is trival by your estimation. Compared that to Trump and some governors as situation has taken a negative turn... I'm guessing you cannot find in yourself to give him an ounce of credit. 


Yet Trump who thinks Covid-19 will miraculously disappear without a plan outside of some questionable intervention is worthy of your admiration. A president who's only concern that "his" voters in red states remains viable enough prior to election day to cast a ballot for him...and to hell with everyone else's safety. And you have problems with Cuomo?




 Cuomo after his disaster with the elderly sending them back from hospitals to nursing homes to infect others, nice spin by you has done better with the the help of the President. He gave him everything he asked for and more. Hospital beds in the Javits Center put up in days. More ventilators then they could use.He sent the UUS Comfort sent to NYC. Was that good? Can you say it? 


They made mistakes and have done other things well in the response of course you wont give Trump any credit at all while even Cuomo could.


Cuomo Praises Trump's Response to the Wuhan Coronavirus: 'Phenomenal Accomplishment'


New York Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo was asked on Sunday whether or not he has faith in President Trump when it comes to handling the Wuhan coronavirus. Gov. Cuomo made it clear that he not only trusts the president but that what Trump and his administration have done was nothing short of a "phenomenal accomplishment."



"What the federal government did working with states was a phenomenal accomplishment," the governor marveled. "We bent the curve. We flattened the curve. Government did it. People did it, but government facilitates people's actions, right?"


Gov. Cuomo has consistently praised the president for helping New Yorkers while the state quickly emerged as an international hotspot of the Wuhan coronavirus. Only on the issue of ventilators, when Gov. Cuomo anticipated New York would need some 40,000 ventilators, were the president and the governor at odds. Trump expected the actual number of ventilators New York needed to be much lower, and Trump was right. Instead of 40,000 ventilators, New York needed about 5,000. The state now has so many ventilators they have begun sending them to other states.


"We had to double the hospital capacity in New York State," Gov. Cumo recalled on Sunday. "That's what all the experts said. The president brought in the Army Corps of Engineers. They built 2,500 at Javits ... It was a phenomenal accomplishment. Close to a thousand people have gone through Javits. Luckily, we didn't need the 2,500 beds. But all the projections said we did need it and more ... so these were just extraordinary efforts and acts of mobilization, and the federal government stepped up and was a great partner, and I'm the first one to say it. We needed help and they were there." 




 Ignored just like they violence by the peaceful protestors. SMH.




The bottomline....After Cuomo's strategic plan did the numbers of fatalities/ cases come down dramatically?  Yes or No???? 




 I'm not at a Den controlled congessional hearing so I will give more then a Yes or a No answer.
Yes after he botched it in the begining and with the help of the Fed it did come down. 




And the Feds are helping Florida, Texas and Arizona ...how are they doing????




Speaking of which, when NY was the epicenter of the pandemic there was a lot of spit talk from some Floridians. Now that Florida zoomed past NY in the number of covid cases including those cases in Florida nursing homes. Now, Floridians haven't said too much, they have been pretty quiet, which is something they should have did from the start when NY was in desperate times. Not that it's a scorecard or a game, it's not. It's sad and it's tragic, but I didn't appreciate some of the things that were being said about NY.  

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 5:15PM #142
Max
Posts: 5,977

Jul 28, 2020 -- 4:17PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:33PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:16PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 3:11PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 1:19PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:14PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 11:53AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:49AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Cuomo garnered enough respect for the public to follow his lead In bringing down the curve. Yeah a vital business is important but a life takes presidence over money. What good Is making oodles if your 6 feet under?


As the majority of our country is on fire, I think Cuomo did an admirable job analyzing data and taking advice from medical experts to formulate a plan in reducing the rate of infection. His strategy enabled him to maintains a low infection rate.


Yeah mistakes is part of trying to get it right. Compared to what other governors has done in following Trump's lead. It's nothing short of disaster.


You might have disdain for him, but on the whole I give him lots of credit for handling Covid-19. Numbers don't lie, the number of fatalities has dramatically come to a halt as many States are on fire. I'll exchange the ability to have a drink to safe a life any day of the week.




Stay home if your at risk or elderly. Do social distancing seriously, take action against those businesses who don't but let people live if the curve has flattened . He had to shut things down because NY had it the worst of any State. The most deaths by a lot. Other states didn't have that issue till now. Now he takes laps like some hero while ignoring all those seniors killed because he sent covid patients back to nursing homes. Big mistake, excuses for him made but he gets a pass while anything Trump has done, pro gets ignored while all you hear is the negatives. Case in point your post




If you actually read my post I acknowledged his mistakes. Recognizing you are going to highlight it on your response. Elderly don't live in a bubble. They socialize with various family members. At least that's the case for most families. In that socialization exposure to careless members can be detrimental.


Your response also points to your disdain for our governor. It seems what he has accomplished is trival by your estimation. Compared that to Trump and some governors as situation has taken a negative turn... I'm guessing you cannot find in yourself to give him an ounce of credit. 


Yet Trump who thinks Covid-19 will miraculously disappear without a plan outside of some questionable intervention is worthy of your admiration. A president who's only concern that "his" voters in red states remains viable enough prior to election day to cast a ballot for him...and to hell with everyone else's safety. And you have problems with Cuomo?




 Cuomo after his disaster with the elderly sending them back from hospitals to nursing homes to infect others, nice spin by you has done better with the the help of the President. He gave him everything he asked for and more. Hospital beds in the Javits Center put up in days. More ventilators then they could use.He sent the UUS Comfort sent to NYC. Was that good? Can you say it? 


They made mistakes and have done other things well in the response of course you wont give Trump any credit at all while even Cuomo could.


Cuomo Praises Trump's Response to the Wuhan Coronavirus: 'Phenomenal Accomplishment'


New York Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo was asked on Sunday whether or not he has faith in President Trump when it comes to handling the Wuhan coronavirus. Gov. Cuomo made it clear that he not only trusts the president but that what Trump and his administration have done was nothing short of a "phenomenal accomplishment."



"What the federal government did working with states was a phenomenal accomplishment," the governor marveled. "We bent the curve. We flattened the curve. Government did it. People did it, but government facilitates people's actions, right?"


Gov. Cuomo has consistently praised the president for helping New Yorkers while the state quickly emerged as an international hotspot of the Wuhan coronavirus. Only on the issue of ventilators, when Gov. Cuomo anticipated New York would need some 40,000 ventilators, were the president and the governor at odds. Trump expected the actual number of ventilators New York needed to be much lower, and Trump was right. Instead of 40,000 ventilators, New York needed about 5,000. The state now has so many ventilators they have begun sending them to other states.


"We had to double the hospital capacity in New York State," Gov. Cumo recalled on Sunday. "That's what all the experts said. The president brought in the Army Corps of Engineers. They built 2,500 at Javits ... It was a phenomenal accomplishment. Close to a thousand people have gone through Javits. Luckily, we didn't need the 2,500 beds. But all the projections said we did need it and more ... so these were just extraordinary efforts and acts of mobilization, and the federal government stepped up and was a great partner, and I'm the first one to say it. We needed help and they were there." 




 Ignored just like they violence by the peaceful protestors. SMH.




The bottomline....After Cuomo's strategic plan did the numbers of fatalities/ cases come down dramatically?  Yes or No???? 




 I'm not at a Den controlled congessional hearing so I will give more then a Yes or a No answer.
Yes after he botched it in the begining and with the help of the Fed it did come down. 




And the Feds are helping Florida, Texas and Arizona ...how are they doing????




They aren't doing great right now. Still much better the New York, Ct and NJ overall.Death rates per 100,000 much better . 





How are they better overall when they have a higher number of cases? As for the death rate, there are better treatments now because the medical community knows more about covid since the start of the pandemic when NY, NJ, and Connecticut, were some of the first states to get hit hard by the virus.

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 5:17PM #143
yank0428
Posts: 18,440

Jul 28, 2020 -- 4:55PM, Max wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 6:49PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 5:59PM, Max wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 5:49PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 5:16PM, Max wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 1:15AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 26, 2020 -- 1:22PM, Max wrote:


Jul 26, 2020 -- 11:01AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 26, 2020 -- 8:21AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 12:01PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 8:06AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:58PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:45PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:31PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 6:51PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 3:38PM, yank0428 wrote:


I didn't vote for Trump so your wrong again. Rather someone else was running but he is and he's  not Biden, Pelosi or Schumer. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


As I recall, you were a strong Kasich supporter in '16. What's your feeling re his intention to speak at the Democratic Convention in support of Biden?




I know Kasich doesn't like Trump. He has the right to support who he wants but if he does support Biden he should switch parties.


 I honestly think Biden will be a puppet to the far left libs. 


 Whats your thoughts on this?  


Joe Biden’s disastrous plans for America’s suburbs   


nypost.com/2020/07/21/joe-bidens-disastr...




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


I assume you had a valid reason for supporting Kasich. Just seems odd that now you feel he should change parties simply because he doesn't support Trump, much like many truly conservative Republicans. That list is very long.


As for the NY Post "disastrous plan" sensational headline, I'd have to research that further before forming an opinion. 




I supported Kasich because I thought he might have a chance to bring both parties together. Those days are gone after the last few years .If he is going to support Biden who is the pocket of the far left libs I feel he should change parties.


 I don't consider any of those in the Lincoln project conservatives. IMO no true conservative could support Biden. Sanctuary cities. Healthcare for those here illegally. Weaking our military. Defunding our Police. It's more that they let their personal dislike for Trump affect them. Lets be real they all have been in the in the swamp forever.




This is what trumpies like you have trouble understanding, the Lincold Project supports our country and it's people, they can see donald and you troumpies only seem to care about lining your/their pockets as donald and his family have since they walked through the doors of the WH... It's about time some people, whether it's (D) or (R) start looking at whats good for this country, it's for sure the (R) that are in power right now have that the furthurist from their minds... Working together is what our forfathers wanted, a coutry run by one man that wants to be a dictator is not what they had in mind !!!




 The Lincoln Project is a bunch of political hacks who are the embodiment of the swamp. Nobody but the left cares what they think.


So old wise one whats good for our country? Politicians who let the mob rule. Politicians who ignore laws they don't like but enforce other laws that suit their agenda. Pour paint on a BLM sign it's a hate crime. Paint Kill the Pigs on a church and ignore it. Do you see what's going on in Dem run cities? Portland where Biden is ignoring the violence but call out for egregious acts the Feds Law enforcement there to protect fed property . Seattle dem mayor lets them take over a city calling it a summer of love while two kids where killed there. Chicago where the Mayor calls out the President who offers help but does nothing about the slaughter of blacks every week going on there. Who caters to the mob taking a statue down of Columbus in the middle of the night.In NYC you have Cops getting assaulted but the GOV, Mayor and state AG are more interested in a Cop who pushed a protestor down. Focus on closing restaurants who serve people a few beers without food but encourage thousands march the streets during a pandemic. Nothing to do with lining our pocketbooks. The poltical hacks just bent over backwards to shut down a Back the Blue protest on LongIsland saying speakers from out of the state wouldn't be allowed into the state during the lockdown. Do you see there is freedom of speech only for those who support their narrative. That's OK to you. 14 Cops killed since George Floyd was murdered. Every Police Officer I know thought that was criminal and terrible but silence from the left on those Cops. Silence from the left on David Dorn. Change your name to YankeeOldFool. 


 Oh he is one of the founders of BLM.Great marxist group who is in favor of breaking up families. This is who the Left support over the Police.


Black Lives Matter leader Charles Wade charged with sex trafficking


www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/19...


 The left caters to the loudest voices but the silent majority is watching in disgust and this will shock you but it's a lot of black people. They want law and order because they are the victims who suffer the most.




How can you mention someone that lets the mob rule ??? We have one of the biggest Mob/Gangster guy as out POTUS... donald is forcing his way into these Dem controlled states/cities trying to make them look bad, it's not working, I know you trumpies like to blame everything on the Dems... Your kind of like donald, he/trumpies never take any blame, arguing with you is like talking to my grass when I mow it !!!




Are you watching whats going on in these Dem run cities? You can't be that clueless. You have Pelosi calling Fed agents Stormtroopers. Not one Dem speaks out against these peaceful riots. Not one says anything about Officers killed, attacked and injured. Just we support peaceful protests ignoring those that aren't. Attacks on Fedreral property. Officers getting blinded by lasers while city officials do nothing. 


Posting to you in like talking to the class Dunce when he gets some free time from standing in the corner.


 Take control of their cities and Trump doesn't have to send anybody there. These rioters aren't protestors. They are anarchists who know they can get away with this in weakly governed cities. You have people who are to dumb to know that and are getting dragged into it with them. Some buy it on here. They keep this up they are making them kook bad., not Trump.


Do you leave your house and talk to people or just stay in this little bubble? Most people see this. They might not like Trump or even vote for him but they see whats going on




I have seen many Democrats speak out against rioters. Democrats also fight for laws to try to make it harder for criminals to get weapons, which would make a Police Officers' job safer and easier.  Three years ago, Pelosi might have been the first politician to call Antifa terrorists.


  “Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts.”  “The violent actions of people calling themselves Antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.


"In California, as across all of our great nation, we have deep reverence for the Constitutional right to peaceful dissent and free speech,” “Non-violence is fundamental to that right. Let us use this sad event to reaffirm that we must never fight hate with hate, and to remember the values of peace, openness and justice that represent the best of America.” ~ Nancy Pelosi




 Chicago has strick gun laws. Hows that working? Criminals get weapons. Always have always will. Backing the Police stops the violence. Putting handcuffs on them you get these riots , property destruction, looting and people assaulted and killed.


Where is Pelosi now? Last I heard from her she had no problem with them tearing down statues. 


 Somebody should tell Nadler. Clown show.This is what I see. I hear them harp on the peaceful protestors and ignore the violence. 


Jerry Nadler claims antifa violence is a myth


youtu.be/psP70YpZxgQ




I never heard of Pelosi condoning vandalism. Are you sure Nadler didn't mean that it's a myth when people try to link the peaceful protesters with antifa? I will have to hear more from him because I doubt he was denying that there isn't violence in Portland. Chicago has strict gun laws but some of the states around them don't, which is the same problem the NYPD says NY has when guns come to NY from out of state.





 She's real tough on vandalism.


 https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/09/nancy-pelosi-on-mobs-removing-statues-people-will-do-what-they-do/


 Max if all the surrounding states had strict gun laws criminals would still get guns. If the whole country had strict gun laws. Criminals would still get weapons.They only way to stop them is by proactive Policing which isn't allowed anymore.




The criminals might still get weapons but it would be a lot harder for them to do so.


As I said Pelosi hasn't condoned vandalism and she must have been the first to call antifa terrorists. Here's the question she was asked and her full answer.


QUESTION: Should not be done by respectfully, shouldn't be done by a Commission or the City Council, not a mob in the middle of the night throwing it into the harbor?

PELOSI: People will do what they do. It's it is I do think that from a safety standpoint it would be a good idea to have it taken down at the community doesn't want it. I don't know that it has to be a Commission, but it just could be a community view. And sometimes, it's something that's been there that view has been there for a while.




 Just like they can always get drugs to sell they will find a way to get weapons. As far as gun laws I agree in some states they need stronger background checks but the Dems will go to far 
Pelosi should be condemming it. They want to have a commision that's fair. These people are breaking laws by tearing them down and it's mostly ignored by Dems.She also was calling the Fed agents stormtroppers. That's disgraceful. No mention of those injured.




Criminals get drugs, but there are still drug laws. The Dems who have any power want better background checks and the gun show loophole closed. That's not asking a lot. I refer to Pelosi's first quote about violence that I posted.




With bail reform what does it matter, Dems put criminals right back on the streets to commit crimes. The liberal DA's wont prosecute rioters. This is what Dems do. I agree with stronger background checks and get rid of the gun show loophole but as we can see from these rioters and before that Dems are soft on crime. Why violence is increasing. You have Dems just mentioning peaceful protests and Moms marching while rioters are trying to burn down Federal courthouses. That's insane.You have the clown Portland mayor attacking Trump and blaming him for the violence he lets go on. Same happened in Seattle. It's their city. Take charge. This is what goes on that you guys ignore or blame Trump for. This is the stupidity they try to spin. Blame the Feds while he getting cussed out and stuff thrown at him from protestors,not the edited version the lib networks show.


Portland Mayor Photo Op Backfires Horribly as Antifa/BLM Attack Him!


 https://youtu.be/uuXRfG_KT3o


 Biden said instead of defund Police redirect. Word games it's taking money away from the Police and the people who live in high crime areas know this is wrong but listen to the rioters.. Nadler did say in regards to Portland Antifa is a myth.

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 5:35PM #144
Judge
Posts: 5,166

Jul 28, 2020 -- 5:17PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 4:55PM, Max wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 6:49PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 5:59PM, Max wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 5:49PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 5:16PM, Max wrote:


Jul 27, 2020 -- 1:15AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 26, 2020 -- 1:22PM, Max wrote:


Jul 26, 2020 -- 11:01AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 26, 2020 -- 8:21AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 12:01PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 8:06AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:58PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:45PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:31PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 6:51PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 3:38PM, yank0428 wrote:


I didn't vote for Trump so your wrong again. Rather someone else was running but he is and he's  not Biden, Pelosi or Schumer. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


As I recall, you were a strong Kasich supporter in '16. What's your feeling re his intention to speak at the Democratic Convention in support of Biden?




I know Kasich doesn't like Trump. He has the right to support who he wants but if he does support Biden he should switch parties.


 I honestly think Biden will be a puppet to the far left libs. 


 Whats your thoughts on this?  


Joe Biden’s disastrous plans for America’s suburbs   


nypost.com/2020/07/21/joe-bidens-disastr...




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


I assume you had a valid reason for supporting Kasich. Just seems odd that now you feel he should change parties simply because he doesn't support Trump, much like many truly conservative Republicans. That list is very long.


As for the NY Post "disastrous plan" sensational headline, I'd have to research that further before forming an opinion. 




I supported Kasich because I thought he might have a chance to bring both parties together. Those days are gone after the last few years .If he is going to support Biden who is the pocket of the far left libs I feel he should change parties.


 I don't consider any of those in the Lincoln project conservatives. IMO no true conservative could support Biden. Sanctuary cities. Healthcare for those here illegally. Weaking our military. Defunding our Police. It's more that they let their personal dislike for Trump affect them. Lets be real they all have been in the in the swamp forever.




This is what trumpies like you have trouble understanding, the Lincold Project supports our country and it's people, they can see donald and you troumpies only seem to care about lining your/their pockets as donald and his family have since they walked through the doors of the WH... It's about time some people, whether it's (D) or (R) start looking at whats good for this country, it's for sure the (R) that are in power right now have that the furthurist from their minds... Working together is what our forfathers wanted, a coutry run by one man that wants to be a dictator is not what they had in mind !!!




 The Lincoln Project is a bunch of political hacks who are the embodiment of the swamp. Nobody but the left cares what they think.


So old wise one whats good for our country? Politicians who let the mob rule. Politicians who ignore laws they don't like but enforce other laws that suit their agenda. Pour paint on a BLM sign it's a hate crime. Paint Kill the Pigs on a church and ignore it. Do you see what's going on in Dem run cities? Portland where Biden is ignoring the violence but call out for egregious acts the Feds Law enforcement there to protect fed property . Seattle dem mayor lets them take over a city calling it a summer of love while two kids where killed there. Chicago where the Mayor calls out the President who offers help but does nothing about the slaughter of blacks every week going on there. Who caters to the mob taking a statue down of Columbus in the middle of the night.In NYC you have Cops getting assaulted but the GOV, Mayor and state AG are more interested in a Cop who pushed a protestor down. Focus on closing restaurants who serve people a few beers without food but encourage thousands march the streets during a pandemic. Nothing to do with lining our pocketbooks. The poltical hacks just bent over backwards to shut down a Back the Blue protest on LongIsland saying speakers from out of the state wouldn't be allowed into the state during the lockdown. Do you see there is freedom of speech only for those who support their narrative. That's OK to you. 14 Cops killed since George Floyd was murdered. Every Police Officer I know thought that was criminal and terrible but silence from the left on those Cops. Silence from the left on David Dorn. Change your name to YankeeOldFool. 


 Oh he is one of the founders of BLM.Great marxist group who is in favor of breaking up families. This is who the Left support over the Police.


Black Lives Matter leader Charles Wade charged with sex trafficking


www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/19...


 The left caters to the loudest voices but the silent majority is watching in disgust and this will shock you but it's a lot of black people. They want law and order because they are the victims who suffer the most.




How can you mention someone that lets the mob rule ??? We have one of the biggest Mob/Gangster guy as out POTUS... donald is forcing his way into these Dem controlled states/cities trying to make them look bad, it's not working, I know you trumpies like to blame everything on the Dems... Your kind of like donald, he/trumpies never take any blame, arguing with you is like talking to my grass when I mow it !!!




Are you watching whats going on in these Dem run cities? You can't be that clueless. You have Pelosi calling Fed agents Stormtroopers. Not one Dem speaks out against these peaceful riots. Not one says anything about Officers killed, attacked and injured. Just we support peaceful protests ignoring those that aren't. Attacks on Fedreral property. Officers getting blinded by lasers while city officials do nothing. 


Posting to you in like talking to the class Dunce when he gets some free time from standing in the corner.


 Take control of their cities and Trump doesn't have to send anybody there. These rioters aren't protestors. They are anarchists who know they can get away with this in weakly governed cities. You have people who are to dumb to know that and are getting dragged into it with them. Some buy it on here. They keep this up they are making them kook bad., not Trump.


Do you leave your house and talk to people or just stay in this little bubble? Most people see this. They might not like Trump or even vote for him but they see whats going on




I have seen many Democrats speak out against rioters. Democrats also fight for laws to try to make it harder for criminals to get weapons, which would make a Police Officers' job safer and easier.  Three years ago, Pelosi might have been the first politician to call Antifa terrorists.


  “Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts.”  “The violent actions of people calling themselves Antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.


"In California, as across all of our great nation, we have deep reverence for the Constitutional right to peaceful dissent and free speech,” “Non-violence is fundamental to that right. Let us use this sad event to reaffirm that we must never fight hate with hate, and to remember the values of peace, openness and justice that represent the best of America.” ~ Nancy Pelosi




 Chicago has strick gun laws. Hows that working? Criminals get weapons. Always have always will. Backing the Police stops the violence. Putting handcuffs on them you get these riots , property destruction, looting and people assaulted and killed.


Where is Pelosi now? Last I heard from her she had no problem with them tearing down statues. 


 Somebody should tell Nadler. Clown show.This is what I see. I hear them harp on the peaceful protestors and ignore the violence. 


Jerry Nadler claims antifa violence is a myth


youtu.be/psP70YpZxgQ




I never heard of Pelosi condoning vandalism. Are you sure Nadler didn't mean that it's a myth when people try to link the peaceful protesters with antifa? I will have to hear more from him because I doubt he was denying that there isn't violence in Portland. Chicago has strict gun laws but some of the states around them don't, which is the same problem the NYPD says NY has when guns come to NY from out of state.





 She's real tough on vandalism.


 https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/09/nancy-pelosi-on-mobs-removing-statues-people-will-do-what-they-do/


 Max if all the surrounding states had strict gun laws criminals would still get guns. If the whole country had strict gun laws. Criminals would still get weapons.They only way to stop them is by proactive Policing which isn't allowed anymore.




The criminals might still get weapons but it would be a lot harder for them to do so.


As I said Pelosi hasn't condoned vandalism and she must have been the first to call antifa terrorists. Here's the question she was asked and her full answer.


QUESTION: Should not be done by respectfully, shouldn't be done by a Commission or the City Council, not a mob in the middle of the night throwing it into the harbor?

PELOSI: People will do what they do. It's it is I do think that from a safety standpoint it would be a good idea to have it taken down at the community doesn't want it. I don't know that it has to be a Commission, but it just could be a community view. And sometimes, it's something that's been there that view has been there for a while.




 Just like they can always get drugs to sell they will find a way to get weapons. As far as gun laws I agree in some states they need stronger background checks but the Dems will go to far 
Pelosi should be condemming it. They want to have a commision that's fair. These people are breaking laws by tearing them down and it's mostly ignored by Dems.She also was calling the Fed agents stormtroppers. That's disgraceful. No mention of those injured.




Criminals get drugs, but there are still drug laws. The Dems who have any power want better background checks and the gun show loophole closed. That's not asking a lot. I refer to Pelosi's first quote about violence that I posted.




With bail reform what does it matter, Dems put criminals right back on the streets to commit crimes. The liberal DA's wont prosecute rioters. This is what Dems do. I agree with stronger background checks and get rid of the gun show loophole but as we can see from these rioters and before that Dems are soft on crime. Why violence is increasing. You have Dems just mentioning peaceful protests and Moms marching while rioters are trying to burn down Federal courthouses. That's insane.You have the clown Portland mayor attacking Trump and blaming him for the violence he lets go on. Same happened in Seattle. It's their city. Take charge. This is what goes on that you guys ignore or blame Trump for. This is the stupidity they try to spin. Blame the Feds while he getting cussed out and stuff thrown at him from protestors,not the edited version the lib networks show.


Portland Mayor Photo Op Backfires Horribly as Antifa/BLM Attack Him!


 https://youtu.be/uuXRfG_KT3o


 Biden said instead of defund Police redirect. Word games it's taking money away from the Police and the people who live in high crime areas know this is wrong but listen to the rioters.. Nadler did say in regards to Portland Antifa is a myth.




Nadler is a total clown.   One of the top liars/propagandists in the Dem party, and living proof we should have term limits.    He's just a puppet at this point that spews whatever lies Nancy tells him to.   And can't even do so convincingly.

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 5:49PM #145
NY23
Posts: 11,014

Of course, weak-on-crime con artists have no problems with the Criminal-in-Chief Donnie.  These hate-America-first members of the cult of the Worst President Ever Donnie, always have a million excuses and lies to cover-up for his criminality.  

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 5:53PM #146
Max
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I didn't vote for Trump so your wrong again. Rather someone else was running but he is and he's  not Biden, Pelosi or Schumer. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


As I recall, you were a strong Kasich supporter in '16. What's your feeling re his intention to speak at the Democratic Convention in support of Biden?




I know Kasich doesn't like Trump. He has the right to support who he wants but if he does support Biden he should switch parties.


 I honestly think Biden will be a puppet to the far left libs. 


 Whats your thoughts on this?  


Joe Biden’s disastrous plans for America’s suburbs   


nypost.com/2020/07/21/joe-bidens-disastr...




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


I assume you had a valid reason for supporting Kasich. Just seems odd that now you feel he should change parties simply because he doesn't support Trump, much like many truly conservative Republicans. That list is very long.


As for the NY Post "disastrous plan" sensational headline, I'd have to research that further before forming an opinion. 




I supported Kasich because I thought he might have a chance to bring both parties together. Those days are gone after the last few years .If he is going to support Biden who is the pocket of the far left libs I feel he should change parties.


 I don't consider any of those in the Lincoln project conservatives. IMO no true conservative could support Biden. Sanctuary cities. Healthcare for those here illegally. Weaking our military. Defunding our Police. It's more that they let their personal dislike for Trump affect them. Lets be real they all have been in the in the swamp forever.




This is what trumpies like you have trouble understanding, the Lincold Project supports our country and it's people, they can see donald and you troumpies only seem to care about lining your/their pockets as donald and his family have since they walked through the doors of the WH... It's about time some people, whether it's (D) or (R) start looking at whats good for this country, it's for sure the (R) that are in power right now have that the furthurist from their minds... Working together is what our forfathers wanted, a coutry run by one man that wants to be a dictator is not what they had in mind !!!




 The Lincoln Project is a bunch of political hacks who are the embodiment of the swamp. Nobody but the left cares what they think.


So old wise one whats good for our country? Politicians who let the mob rule. Politicians who ignore laws they don't like but enforce other laws that suit their agenda. Pour paint on a BLM sign it's a hate crime. Paint Kill the Pigs on a church and ignore it. Do you see what's going on in Dem run cities? Portland where Biden is ignoring the violence but call out for egregious acts the Feds Law enforcement there to protect fed property . Seattle dem mayor lets them take over a city calling it a summer of love while two kids where killed there. Chicago where the Mayor calls out the President who offers help but does nothing about the slaughter of blacks every week going on there. Who caters to the mob taking a statue down of Columbus in the middle of the night.In NYC you have Cops getting assaulted but the GOV, Mayor and state AG are more interested in a Cop who pushed a protestor down. Focus on closing restaurants who serve people a few beers without food but encourage thousands march the streets during a pandemic. Nothing to do with lining our pocketbooks. The poltical hacks just bent over backwards to shut down a Back the Blue protest on LongIsland saying speakers from out of the state wouldn't be allowed into the state during the lockdown. Do you see there is freedom of speech only for those who support their narrative. That's OK to you. 14 Cops killed since George Floyd was murdered. Every Police Officer I know thought that was criminal and terrible but silence from the left on those Cops. Silence from the left on David Dorn. Change your name to YankeeOldFool. 


 Oh he is one of the founders of BLM.Great marxist group who is in favor of breaking up families. This is who the Left support over the Police.


Black Lives Matter leader Charles Wade charged with sex trafficking


www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/19...


 The left caters to the loudest voices but the silent majority is watching in disgust and this will shock you but it's a lot of black people. They want law and order because they are the victims who suffer the most.




How can you mention someone that lets the mob rule ??? We have one of the biggest Mob/Gangster guy as out POTUS... donald is forcing his way into these Dem controlled states/cities trying to make them look bad, it's not working, I know you trumpies like to blame everything on the Dems... Your kind of like donald, he/trumpies never take any blame, arguing with you is like talking to my grass when I mow it !!!




Are you watching whats going on in these Dem run cities? You can't be that clueless. You have Pelosi calling Fed agents Stormtroopers. Not one Dem speaks out against these peaceful riots. Not one says anything about Officers killed, attacked and injured. Just we support peaceful protests ignoring those that aren't. Attacks on Fedreral property. Officers getting blinded by lasers while city officials do nothing. 


Posting to you in like talking to the class Dunce when he gets some free time from standing in the corner.


 Take control of their cities and Trump doesn't have to send anybody there. These rioters aren't protestors. They are anarchists who know they can get away with this in weakly governed cities. You have people who are to dumb to know that and are getting dragged into it with them. Some buy it on here. They keep this up they are making them kook bad., not Trump.


Do you leave your house and talk to people or just stay in this little bubble? Most people see this. They might not like Trump or even vote for him but they see whats going on




I have seen many Democrats speak out against rioters. Democrats also fight for laws to try to make it harder for criminals to get weapons, which would make a Police Officers' job safer and easier.  Three years ago, Pelosi might have been the first politician to call Antifa terrorists.


  “Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts.”  “The violent actions of people calling themselves Antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.


"In California, as across all of our great nation, we have deep reverence for the Constitutional right to peaceful dissent and free speech,” “Non-violence is fundamental to that right. Let us use this sad event to reaffirm that we must never fight hate with hate, and to remember the values of peace, openness and justice that represent the best of America.” ~ Nancy Pelosi




 Chicago has strick gun laws. Hows that working? Criminals get weapons. Always have always will. Backing the Police stops the violence. Putting handcuffs on them you get these riots , property destruction, looting and people assaulted and killed.


Where is Pelosi now? Last I heard from her she had no problem with them tearing down statues. 


 Somebody should tell Nadler. Clown show.This is what I see. I hear them harp on the peaceful protestors and ignore the violence. 


Jerry Nadler claims antifa violence is a myth


youtu.be/psP70YpZxgQ




I never heard of Pelosi condoning vandalism. Are you sure Nadler didn't mean that it's a myth when people try to link the peaceful protesters with antifa? I will have to hear more from him because I doubt he was denying that there isn't violence in Portland. Chicago has strict gun laws but some of the states around them don't, which is the same problem the NYPD says NY has when guns come to NY from out of state.





 She's real tough on vandalism.


 https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/09/nancy-pelosi-on-mobs-removing-statues-people-will-do-what-they-do/


 Max if all the surrounding states had strict gun laws criminals would still get guns. If the whole country had strict gun laws. Criminals would still get weapons.They only way to stop them is by proactive Policing which isn't allowed anymore.




The criminals might still get weapons but it would be a lot harder for them to do so.


As I said Pelosi hasn't condoned vandalism and she must have been the first to call antifa terrorists. Here's the question she was asked and her full answer.


QUESTION: Should not be done by respectfully, shouldn't be done by a Commission or the City Council, not a mob in the middle of the night throwing it into the harbor?

PELOSI: People will do what they do. It's it is I do think that from a safety standpoint it would be a good idea to have it taken down at the community doesn't want it. I don't know that it has to be a Commission, but it just could be a community view. And sometimes, it's something that's been there that view has been there for a while.




 Just like they can always get drugs to sell they will find a way to get weapons. As far as gun laws I agree in some states they need stronger background checks but the Dems will go to far 
Pelosi should be condemming it. They want to have a commision that's fair. These people are breaking laws by tearing them down and it's mostly ignored by Dems.She also was calling the Fed agents stormtroppers. That's disgraceful. No mention of those injured.




Criminals get drugs, but there are still drug laws. The Dems who have any power want better background checks and the gun show loophole closed. That's not asking a lot. I refer to Pelosi's first quote about violence that I posted.




With bail reform what does it matter, Dems put criminals right back on the streets to commit crimes. The liberal DA's wont prosecute rioters. This is what Dems do. I agree with stronger background checks and get rid of the gun show loophole but as we can see from these rioters and before that Dems are soft on crime. Why violence is increasing. You have Dems just mentioning peaceful protests and Moms marching while rioters are trying to burn down Federal courthouses. That's insane.You have the clown Portland mayor attacking Trump and blaming him for the violence he lets go on. Same happened in Seattle. It's their city. Take charge. This is what goes on that you guys ignore or blame Trump for. This is the stupidity they try to spin. Blame the Feds while he getting cussed out and stuff thrown at him from protestors,not the edited version the lib networks show.


Portland Mayor Photo Op Backfires Horribly as Antifa/BLM Attack Him!


 https://youtu.be/uuXRfG_KT3o


 Biden said instead of defund Police redirect. Word games it's taking money away from the Police and the people who live in high crime areas know this is wrong but listen to the rioters.. Nadler did say in regards to Portland Antifa is a myth.




Bail reform was a mistake and eventually it's going to be a thing of the past. The other side of the coin is that an arrest always doesn't mean guilty. Some people that are innocent who can't afford bail are going to have to sit in jail because of the wrong doing of others. Dems are calling for more gun laws and you call them soft on crime?


What liberal DA's wont prosecute rioters? If the voters don't like their local politicians' policies they are free to vote them out of office. Trump has caused more protesters to come out and protest. Portland doesn't look any different then it did before Trump tried to create a reelection photo op.

3 months ago  ::  Jul 28, 2020 - 8:46PM #147
laurenfrances
Posts: 39,526

Jul 28, 2020 -- 1:19PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:14PM, laurenfrances wrote:


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Cuomo garnered enough respect for the public to follow his lead In bringing down the curve. Yeah a vital business is important but a life takes presidence over money. What good Is making oodles if your 6 feet under?


As the majority of our country is on fire, I think Cuomo did an admirable job analyzing data and taking advice from medical experts to formulate a plan in reducing the rate of infection. His strategy enabled him to maintains a low infection rate.


Yeah mistakes is part of trying to get it right. Compared to what other governors has done in following Trump's lead. It's nothing short of disaster.


You might have disdain for him, but on the whole I give him lots of credit for handling Covid-19. Numbers don't lie, the number of fatalities has dramatically come to a halt as many States are on fire. I'll exchange the ability to have a drink to safe a life any day of the week.




Stay home if your at risk or elderly. Do social distancing seriously, take action against those businesses who don't but let people live if the curve has flattened . He had to shut things down because NY had it the worst of any State. The most deaths by a lot. Other states didn't have that issue till now. Now he takes laps like some hero while ignoring all those seniors killed because he sent covid patients back to nursing homes. Big mistake, excuses for him made but he gets a pass while anything Trump has done, pro gets ignored while all you hear is the negatives. Case in point your post




If you actually read my post I acknowledged his mistakes. Recognizing you are going to highlight it on your response. Elderly don't live in a bubble. They socialize with various family members. At least that's the case for most families. In that socialization exposure to careless members can be detrimental.


Your response also points to your disdain for our governor. It seems what he has accomplished is trival by your estimation. Compared that to Trump and some governors as situation has taken a negative turn... I'm guessing you cannot find in yourself to give him an ounce of credit. 


Yet Trump who thinks Covid-19 will miraculously disappear without a plan outside of some questionable intervention is worthy of your admiration. A president who's only concern that "his" voters in red states remains viable enough prior to election day to cast a ballot for him...and to hell with everyone else's safety. And you have problems with Cuomo?




 Cuomo after his disaster with the elderly sending them back from hospitals to nursing homes to infect others, nice spin by you has done better with the the help of the President. He gave him everything he asked for and more. Hospital beds in the Javits Center put up in days. More ventilators then they could use.He sent the UUS Comfort sent to NYC. Was that good? Can you say it? 


They made mistakes and have done other things well in the response of course you wont give Trump any credit at all while even Cuomo could.


Cuomo Praises Trump's Response to the Wuhan Coronavirus: 'Phenomenal Accomplishment'


New York Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo was asked on Sunday whether or not he has faith in President Trump when it comes to handling the Wuhan coronavirus. Gov. Cuomo made it clear that he not only trusts the president but that what Trump and his administration have done was nothing short of a "phenomenal accomplishment."



"What the federal government did working with states was a phenomenal accomplishment," the governor marveled. "We bent the curve. We flattened the curve. Government did it. People did it, but government facilitates people's actions, right?"


Gov. Cuomo has consistently praised the president for helping New Yorkers while the state quickly emerged as an international hotspot of the Wuhan coronavirus. Only on the issue of ventilators, when Gov. Cuomo anticipated New York would need some 40,000 ventilators, were the president and the governor at odds. Trump expected the actual number of ventilators New York needed to be much lower, and Trump was right. Instead of 40,000 ventilators, New York needed about 5,000. The state now has so many ventilators they have begun sending them to other states.


"We had to double the hospital capacity in New York State," Gov. Cumo recalled on Sunday. "That's what all the experts said. The president brought in the Army Corps of Engineers. They built 2,500 at Javits ... It was a phenomenal accomplishment. Close to a thousand people have gone through Javits. Luckily, we didn't need the 2,500 beds. But all the projections said we did need it and more ... so these were just extraordinary efforts and acts of mobilization, and the federal government stepped up and was a great partner, and I'm the first one to say it. We needed help and they were there." 




 Ignored just like they violence by the peaceful protestors. SMH.




You say I don't give Trump any credit?  Should I give him credit for promoting crack pot Dr Immanuel employing Hydroxychloroquine to cure Covid-19? He talked of this credible doctor in his briefing today.  Seems Dr Fauci is not credible enough for his liking.


Trump’s New Favorite COVID Doctor Believes in Alien DNA, Demon Sperm, and Hydroxychloroquine






ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE


The president is pushing the coronavirus theories of a Houston doctor who also says sexual visitations by demons and alien DNA are at the root of Americans’ common health concerns.




3 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2020 - 12:25AM #148
yank0428
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I didn't vote for Trump so your wrong again. Rather someone else was running but he is and he's  not Biden, Pelosi or Schumer. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


As I recall, you were a strong Kasich supporter in '16. What's your feeling re his intention to speak at the Democratic Convention in support of Biden?




I know Kasich doesn't like Trump. He has the right to support who he wants but if he does support Biden he should switch parties.


 I honestly think Biden will be a puppet to the far left libs. 


 Whats your thoughts on this?  


Joe Biden’s disastrous plans for America’s suburbs   


nypost.com/2020/07/21/joe-bidens-disastr...




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


I assume you had a valid reason for supporting Kasich. Just seems odd that now you feel he should change parties simply because he doesn't support Trump, much like many truly conservative Republicans. That list is very long.


As for the NY Post "disastrous plan" sensational headline, I'd have to research that further before forming an opinion. 




I supported Kasich because I thought he might have a chance to bring both parties together. Those days are gone after the last few years .If he is going to support Biden who is the pocket of the far left libs I feel he should change parties.


 I don't consider any of those in the Lincoln project conservatives. IMO no true conservative could support Biden. Sanctuary cities. Healthcare for those here illegally. Weaking our military. Defunding our Police. It's more that they let their personal dislike for Trump affect them. Lets be real they all have been in the in the swamp forever.




This is what trumpies like you have trouble understanding, the Lincold Project supports our country and it's people, they can see donald and you troumpies only seem to care about lining your/their pockets as donald and his family have since they walked through the doors of the WH... It's about time some people, whether it's (D) or (R) start looking at whats good for this country, it's for sure the (R) that are in power right now have that the furthurist from their minds... Working together is what our forfathers wanted, a coutry run by one man that wants to be a dictator is not what they had in mind !!!




 The Lincoln Project is a bunch of political hacks who are the embodiment of the swamp. Nobody but the left cares what they think.


So old wise one whats good for our country? Politicians who let the mob rule. Politicians who ignore laws they don't like but enforce other laws that suit their agenda. Pour paint on a BLM sign it's a hate crime. Paint Kill the Pigs on a church and ignore it. Do you see what's going on in Dem run cities? Portland where Biden is ignoring the violence but call out for egregious acts the Feds Law enforcement there to protect fed property . Seattle dem mayor lets them take over a city calling it a summer of love while two kids where killed there. Chicago where the Mayor calls out the President who offers help but does nothing about the slaughter of blacks every week going on there. Who caters to the mob taking a statue down of Columbus in the middle of the night.In NYC you have Cops getting assaulted but the GOV, Mayor and state AG are more interested in a Cop who pushed a protestor down. Focus on closing restaurants who serve people a few beers without food but encourage thousands march the streets during a pandemic. Nothing to do with lining our pocketbooks. The poltical hacks just bent over backwards to shut down a Back the Blue protest on LongIsland saying speakers from out of the state wouldn't be allowed into the state during the lockdown. Do you see there is freedom of speech only for those who support their narrative. That's OK to you. 14 Cops killed since George Floyd was murdered. Every Police Officer I know thought that was criminal and terrible but silence from the left on those Cops. Silence from the left on David Dorn. Change your name to YankeeOldFool. 


 Oh he is one of the founders of BLM.Great marxist group who is in favor of breaking up families. This is who the Left support over the Police.


Black Lives Matter leader Charles Wade charged with sex trafficking


www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/19...


 The left caters to the loudest voices but the silent majority is watching in disgust and this will shock you but it's a lot of black people. They want law and order because they are the victims who suffer the most.




How can you mention someone that lets the mob rule ??? We have one of the biggest Mob/Gangster guy as out POTUS... donald is forcing his way into these Dem controlled states/cities trying to make them look bad, it's not working, I know you trumpies like to blame everything on the Dems... Your kind of like donald, he/trumpies never take any blame, arguing with you is like talking to my grass when I mow it !!!




Are you watching whats going on in these Dem run cities? You can't be that clueless. You have Pelosi calling Fed agents Stormtroopers. Not one Dem speaks out against these peaceful riots. Not one says anything about Officers killed, attacked and injured. Just we support peaceful protests ignoring those that aren't. Attacks on Fedreral property. Officers getting blinded by lasers while city officials do nothing. 


Posting to you in like talking to the class Dunce when he gets some free time from standing in the corner.


 Take control of their cities and Trump doesn't have to send anybody there. These rioters aren't protestors. They are anarchists who know they can get away with this in weakly governed cities. You have people who are to dumb to know that and are getting dragged into it with them. Some buy it on here. They keep this up they are making them kook bad., not Trump.


Do you leave your house and talk to people or just stay in this little bubble? Most people see this. They might not like Trump or even vote for him but they see whats going on




I have seen many Democrats speak out against rioters. Democrats also fight for laws to try to make it harder for criminals to get weapons, which would make a Police Officers' job safer and easier.  Three years ago, Pelosi might have been the first politician to call Antifa terrorists.


  “Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts.”  “The violent actions of people calling themselves Antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.


"In California, as across all of our great nation, we have deep reverence for the Constitutional right to peaceful dissent and free speech,” “Non-violence is fundamental to that right. Let us use this sad event to reaffirm that we must never fight hate with hate, and to remember the values of peace, openness and justice that represent the best of America.” ~ Nancy Pelosi




 Chicago has strick gun laws. Hows that working? Criminals get weapons. Always have always will. Backing the Police stops the violence. Putting handcuffs on them you get these riots , property destruction, looting and people assaulted and killed.


Where is Pelosi now? Last I heard from her she had no problem with them tearing down statues. 


 Somebody should tell Nadler. Clown show.This is what I see. I hear them harp on the peaceful protestors and ignore the violence. 


Jerry Nadler claims antifa violence is a myth


youtu.be/psP70YpZxgQ




I never heard of Pelosi condoning vandalism. Are you sure Nadler didn't mean that it's a myth when people try to link the peaceful protesters with antifa? I will have to hear more from him because I doubt he was denying that there isn't violence in Portland. Chicago has strict gun laws but some of the states around them don't, which is the same problem the NYPD says NY has when guns come to NY from out of state.





 She's real tough on vandalism.


 https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/09/nancy-pelosi-on-mobs-removing-statues-people-will-do-what-they-do/


 Max if all the surrounding states had strict gun laws criminals would still get guns. If the whole country had strict gun laws. Criminals would still get weapons.They only way to stop them is by proactive Policing which isn't allowed anymore.




The criminals might still get weapons but it would be a lot harder for them to do so.


As I said Pelosi hasn't condoned vandalism and she must have been the first to call antifa terrorists. Here's the question she was asked and her full answer.


QUESTION: Should not be done by respectfully, shouldn't be done by a Commission or the City Council, not a mob in the middle of the night throwing it into the harbor?

PELOSI: People will do what they do. It's it is I do think that from a safety standpoint it would be a good idea to have it taken down at the community doesn't want it. I don't know that it has to be a Commission, but it just could be a community view. And sometimes, it's something that's been there that view has been there for a while.




 Just like they can always get drugs to sell they will find a way to get weapons. As far as gun laws I agree in some states they need stronger background checks but the Dems will go to far 
Pelosi should be condemming it. They want to have a commision that's fair. These people are breaking laws by tearing them down and it's mostly ignored by Dems.She also was calling the Fed agents stormtroppers. That's disgraceful. No mention of those injured.




Criminals get drugs, but there are still drug laws. The Dems who have any power want better background checks and the gun show loophole closed. That's not asking a lot. I refer to Pelosi's first quote about violence that I posted.




With bail reform what does it matter, Dems put criminals right back on the streets to commit crimes. The liberal DA's wont prosecute rioters. This is what Dems do. I agree with stronger background checks and get rid of the gun show loophole but as we can see from these rioters and before that Dems are soft on crime. Why violence is increasing. You have Dems just mentioning peaceful protests and Moms marching while rioters are trying to burn down Federal courthouses. That's insane.You have the clown Portland mayor attacking Trump and blaming him for the violence he lets go on. Same happened in Seattle. It's their city. Take charge. This is what goes on that you guys ignore or blame Trump for. This is the stupidity they try to spin. Blame the Feds while he getting cussed out and stuff thrown at him from protestors,not the edited version the lib networks show.


Portland Mayor Photo Op Backfires Horribly as Antifa/BLM Attack Him!


 https://youtu.be/uuXRfG_KT3o


 Biden said instead of defund Police redirect. Word games it's taking money away from the Police and the people who live in high crime areas know this is wrong but listen to the rioters.. Nadler did say in regards to Portland Antifa is a myth.




Bail reform was a mistake and eventually it's going to be a thing of the past. The other side of the coin is that an arrest always doesn't mean guilty. Some people that are innocent who can't afford bail are going to have to sit in jail because of the wrong doing of others. Dems are calling for more gun laws and you call them soft on crime?


What liberal DA's wont prosecute rioters? If the voters don't like their local politicians' policies they are free to vote them out of office. Trump has caused more protesters to come out and protest. Portland doesn't look any different then it did before Trump tried to create a reelection photo op.




I know you have posted bail reform is a mistake but I'm not sure they will change it. Yes I call them soft on crime. Crime rates are rising in Dem cities. The only one who have their act together are the Mayor and Police Chief of Detroit. Dismantling Anti Crime huge mistake . They along with other plainclothes Officers are the one's getting most of the guns off the streets. Did you see the new training video that shows what an Officer can't do when making a arrest. I'd love to see the genius who came up with that try to arrest a violent felon resisting. 


 All the DA's in the city except for Staten Island will not prosecute disorderly conduct arrests for protestors. They call them protestors  I would call somebody throwing stuff at police and resisting arrest rioters. Either way by not prosecuting you encourage bad behavior.


 Example of soft on crime. Liberal Judge. They could have killed Police Officers and they don't seem to regret it.


Lawyers accused of throwing molotov cocktail in NYPD vehicle during protest to be rereleased on bail. NEW YORK — Two local lawyers charged with throwing a molotov cocktail into a police vehicle in Brooklyn during violent protests over the killing of George Floyd must be rereleased on bail, an appellate court has ruled.Jun 30, 2020. They could have killed Police Officers, that's attempted murder and they don't seem to regret it. OK free on bail.
3 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2020 - 12:34AM #149
yank0428
Posts: 18,440

Jul 28, 2020 -- 8:46PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 1:19PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:14PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 11:53AM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 28, 2020 -- 12:49AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Cuomo garnered enough respect for the public to follow his lead In bringing down the curve. Yeah a vital business is important but a life takes presidence over money. What good Is making oodles if your 6 feet under?


As the majority of our country is on fire, I think Cuomo did an admirable job analyzing data and taking advice from medical experts to formulate a plan in reducing the rate of infection. His strategy enabled him to maintains a low infection rate.


Yeah mistakes is part of trying to get it right. Compared to what other governors has done in following Trump's lead. It's nothing short of disaster.


You might have disdain for him, but on the whole I give him lots of credit for handling Covid-19. Numbers don't lie, the number of fatalities has dramatically come to a halt as many States are on fire. I'll exchange the ability to have a drink to safe a life any day of the week.




Stay home if your at risk or elderly. Do social distancing seriously, take action against those businesses who don't but let people live if the curve has flattened . He had to shut things down because NY had it the worst of any State. The most deaths by a lot. Other states didn't have that issue till now. Now he takes laps like some hero while ignoring all those seniors killed because he sent covid patients back to nursing homes. Big mistake, excuses for him made but he gets a pass while anything Trump has done, pro gets ignored while all you hear is the negatives. Case in point your post




If you actually read my post I acknowledged his mistakes. Recognizing you are going to highlight it on your response. Elderly don't live in a bubble. They socialize with various family members. At least that's the case for most families. In that socialization exposure to careless members can be detrimental.


Your response also points to your disdain for our governor. It seems what he has accomplished is trival by your estimation. Compared that to Trump and some governors as situation has taken a negative turn... I'm guessing you cannot find in yourself to give him an ounce of credit. 


Yet Trump who thinks Covid-19 will miraculously disappear without a plan outside of some questionable intervention is worthy of your admiration. A president who's only concern that "his" voters in red states remains viable enough prior to election day to cast a ballot for him...and to hell with everyone else's safety. And you have problems with Cuomo?




 Cuomo after his disaster with the elderly sending them back from hospitals to nursing homes to infect others, nice spin by you has done better with the the help of the President. He gave him everything he asked for and more. Hospital beds in the Javits Center put up in days. More ventilators then they could use.He sent the UUS Comfort sent to NYC. Was that good? Can you say it? 


They made mistakes and have done other things well in the response of course you wont give Trump any credit at all while even Cuomo could.


Cuomo Praises Trump's Response to the Wuhan Coronavirus: 'Phenomenal Accomplishment'


New York Democratic Governor Andrew Cuomo was asked on Sunday whether or not he has faith in President Trump when it comes to handling the Wuhan coronavirus. Gov. Cuomo made it clear that he not only trusts the president but that what Trump and his administration have done was nothing short of a "phenomenal accomplishment."



"What the federal government did working with states was a phenomenal accomplishment," the governor marveled. "We bent the curve. We flattened the curve. Government did it. People did it, but government facilitates people's actions, right?"


Gov. Cuomo has consistently praised the president for helping New Yorkers while the state quickly emerged as an international hotspot of the Wuhan coronavirus. Only on the issue of ventilators, when Gov. Cuomo anticipated New York would need some 40,000 ventilators, were the president and the governor at odds. Trump expected the actual number of ventilators New York needed to be much lower, and Trump was right. Instead of 40,000 ventilators, New York needed about 5,000. The state now has so many ventilators they have begun sending them to other states.


"We had to double the hospital capacity in New York State," Gov. Cumo recalled on Sunday. "That's what all the experts said. The president brought in the Army Corps of Engineers. They built 2,500 at Javits ... It was a phenomenal accomplishment. Close to a thousand people have gone through Javits. Luckily, we didn't need the 2,500 beds. But all the projections said we did need it and more ... so these were just extraordinary efforts and acts of mobilization, and the federal government stepped up and was a great partner, and I'm the first one to say it. We needed help and they were there." 




 Ignored just like they violence by the peaceful protestors. SMH.




You say I don't give Trump any credit?  Should I give him credit for promoting crack pot Dr Immanuel employing Hydroxychloroquine to cure Covid-19? He talked of this credible doctor in his briefing today.  Seems Dr Fauci is not credible enough for his liking.


Trump’s New Favorite COVID Doctor Believes in Alien DNA, Demon Sperm, and Hydroxychloroquine






ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE


The president is pushing the coronavirus theories of a Houston doctor who also says sexual visitations by demons and alien DNA are at the root of Americans’ common health concerns.







Trump should stay out of touting unproven meds, the studies on hydroxy have been up and down. Now down but he has fastracked these promising vaccines so unlike you I can give him credit for what he has done positive. 


 Warp speed.


Select actions to support OWS vaccine development so far include:

  • March 30: HHS announced $456 million in funds for Johnson & Johnson’s candidate vaccine, with Phase 1 clinical trials set to begin this summer.
  • April 16: HHS made exit disclaimer icon up to $483 million in support available for Moderna’s candidate vaccine, which began Phase 1 trials on March 16 and received a fast-track designation from FDA.
  • May 21: HHS announced up to $1.2 billion in support for AstraZeneca’s candidate vaccine, developed in conjunction with the University of Oxford. The agreement is to make available at least 300 million doses of the vaccine for the United States, with the first doses delivered as early as October 2020 and Phase 3 clinical studies beginning this summer with approximately 30,000 volunteers in the United States.

As announced on May 15, the vaccine development plan is as follows, subject to change as work proceeds:

  • Fourteen promising candidates have been chosen from the 100+ vaccine candidates currently in development—some of them already in clinical trials with U.S. government support.
  • The 14 vaccine candidates are being narrowed down to about seven candidates, representing the most promising candidates from a range of technology options, which will go through further testing in early-stage clinical trials.
  • Large-scale randomized trials for the demonstration of safety and efficacy will proceed for the most promising candidates.
3 months ago  ::  Jul 29, 2020 - 1:45PM #150
Max
Posts: 5,977

Jul 29, 2020 -- 12:25AM, yank0428 wrote:



I know you have posted bail reform is a mistake but I'm not sure they will change it. Yes I call them soft on crime. Crime rates are rising in Dem cities. The only one who have their act together are the Mayor and Police Chief of Detroit. Dismantling Anti Crime huge mistake . They along with other plainclothes Officers are the one's getting most of the guns off the streets. Did you see the new training video that shows what an Officer can't do when making a arrest. I'd love to see the genius who came up with that try to arrest a violent felon resisting. 


 All the DA's in the city except for Staten Island will not prosecute disorderly conduct arrests for protestors. They call them protestors  I would call somebody throwing stuff at police and resisting arrest rioters. Either way by not prosecuting you encourage bad behavior.


 Example of soft on crime. Liberal Judge. They could have killed Police Officers and they don't seem to regret it.


Lawyers accused of throwing molotov cocktail in NYPD vehicle during protest to be rereleased on bail. NEW YORK — Two local lawyers charged with throwing a molotov cocktail into a police vehicle in Brooklyn during violent protests over the killing of George Floyd must be rereleased on bail, an appellate court has ruled.Jun 30, 2020. They could have killed Police Officers, that's attempted murder and they don't seem to regret it. OK free on bail.



In my opinion it's a broad brush to say Dems are weak on crime. The appellate court rulings are made by 3 judges. The 2 lawyers were released on $250,000 bail and Home Confinement, so it's not like they are out free walking the streets. They weren't charged with attempted murder probably because there was no one inside the Police Vehicle. However, they have been charged with 7 felonies. They should be found guilty, and are probably facing up to 25 years in jail.

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