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4 months ago  ::  Jul 25, 2020 - 2:37PM #61
yank0428
Posts: 18,446

Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:13PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 1:27PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 1:01PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 12:01PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 8:06AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:58PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:45PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:31PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 6:51PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 3:38PM, yank0428 wrote:


I didn't vote for Trump so your wrong again. Rather someone else was running but he is and he's  not Biden, Pelosi or Schumer. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


As I recall, you were a strong Kasich supporter in '16. What's your feeling re his intention to speak at the Democratic Convention in support of Biden?




I know Kasich doesn't like Trump. He has the right to support who he wants but if he does support Biden he should switch parties.


 I honestly think Biden will be a puppet to the far left libs. 


 Whats your thoughts on this?  


Joe Biden’s disastrous plans for America’s suburbs   


nypost.com/2020/07/21/joe-bidens-disastr...




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


I assume you had a valid reason for supporting Kasich. Just seems odd that now you feel he should change parties simply because he doesn't support Trump, much like many truly conservative Republicans. That list is very long.


As for the NY Post "disastrous plan" sensational headline, I'd have to research that further before forming an opinion. 




I supported Kasich because I thought he might have a chance to bring both parties together. Those days are gone after the last few years .If he is going to support Biden who is the pocket of the far left libs I feel he should change parties.


 I don't consider any of those in the Lincoln project conservatives. IMO no true conservative could support Biden. Sanctuary cities. Healthcare for those here illegally. Weaking our military. Defunding our Police. It's more that they let their personal dislike for Trump affect them. Lets be real they all have been in the in the swamp forever.




This is what trumpies like you have trouble understanding, the Lincold Project supports our country and it's people, they can see donald and you troumpies only seem to care about lining your/their pockets as donald and his family have since they walked through the doors of the WH... It's about time some people, whether it's (D) or (R) start looking at whats good for this country, it's for sure the (R) that are in power right now have that the furthurist from their minds... Working together is what our forfathers wanted, a coutry run by one man that wants to be a dictator is not what they had in mind !!!




 The Lincoln Project is a bunch of political hacks who are the embodiment of the swamp. Nobody but the left cares what they think.


So old wise one whats good for our country? Politicians who let the mob rule. Politicians who ignore laws they don't like but enforce other laws that suit their agenda. Pour paint on a BLM sign it's a hate crime. Paint Kill the Pigs on a church and ignore it. Do you see what's going on in Dem run cities? Portland where Biden is ignoring the violence but call out for egregious acts the Feds Law enforcement there to protect fed property . Seattle dem mayor lets them take over a city calling it a summer of love while two kids where killed there. Chicago where the Mayor calls out the President who offers help but does nothing about the slaughter of blacks every week going on there. Who caters to the mob taking a statue down of Columbus in the middle of the night.In NYC you have Cops getting assaulted but the GOV, Mayor and state AG are more interested in a Cop who pushed a protestor down. Focus on closing restaurants who serve people a few beers without food but encourage thousands march the streets during a pandemic. Nothing to do with lining our pocketbooks. The poltical hacks just bent over backwards to shut down a Back the Blue protest on LongIsland saying speakers from out of the state wouldn't be allowed into the state during the lockdown. Do you see there is freedom of speech only for those who support their narrative. That's OK to you. 14 Cops killed since George Floyd was murdered. Every Police Officer I know thought that was criminal and terrible but silence from the left on those Cops. Silence from the left on David Dorn. Change your name to YankeeOldFool. 


 Oh he is one of the founders of BLM.Great marxist group who is in favor of breaking up families. This is who the Left support over the Police.


Black Lives Matter leader Charles Wade charged with sex trafficking


www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/19...


 The left caters to the loudest voices but the silent majority is watching in disgust and this will shock you but it's a lot of black people. They want law and order because they are the victims who suffer the most.




Leader? From my understand the founder of BLM are 3 gals...Alicia GarzaPatrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi,  If he's guilty as charge, he deserves to be in the slammer. BLM has become in organization that is wide spread. Their organization would not be necessary if police did their job with parity.


As with any organization you will find corrupt members as we found within various police dept. No group is exempt from it.  In fact it's more heinous within police dept as they are public servants paid by tax payers to maintain and provide safety. 




Really. Can you back that up with stats? NYPD is the most diverse Police Department in the world. There are over 800,000 Law Enforcement Officers in the US. They have millions of interactions every year the public. Two Police Officers were charged with wrongly killing a unarmed Black person last year and both were charged and convicted. I haven't heard one Police Officer in private or Public not be outraged at what happened to George Floyd but all the heat goes to every cop in the country for what one murderer did in Minneapolis. That seems fair. Lets call every NFL player an abuser of women because they are much more likely to do that then a Police Officer kill a unarmed black person. Lets not hold these career politicians responsible who run the Dem cities and control their Police Departments for what goes on in these cities. No just the Cops who follow orders and the laws these politicians pass and tell them to enforce. 


 Nothing on the kids in cages in 2014? I guess it doesn't fit the narrative . 


BLM a group who chants they want dead cops. No problem I guess. Any group that supports the police and has a rally they show up to cause problems.  They actually use Michael Brown and Travon Martin as victims of police brutality. They call Police Officers terrorist's.Ignored.




     The Myth of Systemic Police Racism


Hold officers accountable who use excessive force. But there’s no evidence of widespread racial bias.


www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemi...


 Ignore the stats it doesn't fit the narrative.




     








Are you saying police are exempt from wrong doing? Chauvin, knelt on Floyd's neck for nearly eight minutes is in the right? So every organization has their share of bad eggs with the exception to pristine police departments.  If you believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you.




OMG can you read?I posted to you I havent heard one Police Officer condone what Chauvin did. I called him a muderer. Everybody I know thinks he is. So was the Cop in South Carolina who shot that guy running away unarmed in the back. A very view bad apples doesn't represent the overwelming majority of Police Officers who do a good job. Watching these protests according to a lot of they protestors they do. That's wrong. 

4 months ago  ::  Jul 25, 2020 - 2:41PM #62
laurenfrances
Posts: 39,683

Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:37PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:13PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 1:27PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 1:01PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 12:01PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 8:06AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:58PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:45PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:31PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 6:51PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 3:38PM, yank0428 wrote:


I didn't vote for Trump so your wrong again. Rather someone else was running but he is and he's  not Biden, Pelosi or Schumer. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


As I recall, you were a strong Kasich supporter in '16. What's your feeling re his intention to speak at the Democratic Convention in support of Biden?




I know Kasich doesn't like Trump. He has the right to support who he wants but if he does support Biden he should switch parties.


 I honestly think Biden will be a puppet to the far left libs. 


 Whats your thoughts on this?  


Joe Biden’s disastrous plans for America’s suburbs   


nypost.com/2020/07/21/joe-bidens-disastr...




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


I assume you had a valid reason for supporting Kasich. Just seems odd that now you feel he should change parties simply because he doesn't support Trump, much like many truly conservative Republicans. That list is very long.


As for the NY Post "disastrous plan" sensational headline, I'd have to research that further before forming an opinion. 




I supported Kasich because I thought he might have a chance to bring both parties together. Those days are gone after the last few years .If he is going to support Biden who is the pocket of the far left libs I feel he should change parties.


 I don't consider any of those in the Lincoln project conservatives. IMO no true conservative could support Biden. Sanctuary cities. Healthcare for those here illegally. Weaking our military. Defunding our Police. It's more that they let their personal dislike for Trump affect them. Lets be real they all have been in the in the swamp forever.




This is what trumpies like you have trouble understanding, the Lincold Project supports our country and it's people, they can see donald and you troumpies only seem to care about lining your/their pockets as donald and his family have since they walked through the doors of the WH... It's about time some people, whether it's (D) or (R) start looking at whats good for this country, it's for sure the (R) that are in power right now have that the furthurist from their minds... Working together is what our forfathers wanted, a coutry run by one man that wants to be a dictator is not what they had in mind !!!




 The Lincoln Project is a bunch of political hacks who are the embodiment of the swamp. Nobody but the left cares what they think.


So old wise one whats good for our country? Politicians who let the mob rule. Politicians who ignore laws they don't like but enforce other laws that suit their agenda. Pour paint on a BLM sign it's a hate crime. Paint Kill the Pigs on a church and ignore it. Do you see what's going on in Dem run cities? Portland where Biden is ignoring the violence but call out for egregious acts the Feds Law enforcement there to protect fed property . Seattle dem mayor lets them take over a city calling it a summer of love while two kids where killed there. Chicago where the Mayor calls out the President who offers help but does nothing about the slaughter of blacks every week going on there. Who caters to the mob taking a statue down of Columbus in the middle of the night.In NYC you have Cops getting assaulted but the GOV, Mayor and state AG are more interested in a Cop who pushed a protestor down. Focus on closing restaurants who serve people a few beers without food but encourage thousands march the streets during a pandemic. Nothing to do with lining our pocketbooks. The poltical hacks just bent over backwards to shut down a Back the Blue protest on LongIsland saying speakers from out of the state wouldn't be allowed into the state during the lockdown. Do you see there is freedom of speech only for those who support their narrative. That's OK to you. 14 Cops killed since George Floyd was murdered. Every Police Officer I know thought that was criminal and terrible but silence from the left on those Cops. Silence from the left on David Dorn. Change your name to YankeeOldFool. 


 Oh he is one of the founders of BLM.Great marxist group who is in favor of breaking up families. This is who the Left support over the Police.


Black Lives Matter leader Charles Wade charged with sex trafficking


www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/19...


 The left caters to the loudest voices but the silent majority is watching in disgust and this will shock you but it's a lot of black people. They want law and order because they are the victims who suffer the most.




Leader? From my understand the founder of BLM are 3 gals...Alicia GarzaPatrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi,  If he's guilty as charge, he deserves to be in the slammer. BLM has become in organization that is wide spread. Their organization would not be necessary if police did their job with parity.


As with any organization you will find corrupt members as we found within various police dept. No group is exempt from it.  In fact it's more heinous within police dept as they are public servants paid by tax payers to maintain and provide safety. 




Really. Can you back that up with stats? NYPD is the most diverse Police Department in the world. There are over 800,000 Law Enforcement Officers in the US. They have millions of interactions every year the public. Two Police Officers were charged with wrongly killing a unarmed Black person last year and both were charged and convicted. I haven't heard one Police Officer in private or Public not be outraged at what happened to George Floyd but all the heat goes to every cop in the country for what one murderer did in Minneapolis. That seems fair. Lets call every NFL player an abuser of women because they are much more likely to do that then a Police Officer kill a unarmed black person. Lets not hold these career politicians responsible who run the Dem cities and control their Police Departments for what goes on in these cities. No just the Cops who follow orders and the laws these politicians pass and tell them to enforce. 


 Nothing on the kids in cages in 2014? I guess it doesn't fit the narrative . 


BLM a group who chants they want dead cops. No problem I guess. Any group that supports the police and has a rally they show up to cause problems.  They actually use Michael Brown and Travon Martin as victims of police brutality. They call Police Officers terrorist's.Ignored.




     The Myth of Systemic Police Racism


Hold officers accountable who use excessive force. But there’s no evidence of widespread racial bias.


www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemi...


 Ignore the stats it doesn't fit the narrative.




     








Are you saying police are exempt from wrong doing? Chauvin, knelt on Floyd's neck for nearly eight minutes is in the right? So every organization has their share of bad eggs with the exception to pristine police departments.  If you believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you.




OMG can you read.I posted to you I havent heard one Police Officer condone what Chauvin did. I called him a muderer. Everybody I know thinks he is. So was the Cop in South Carolina who shot that guy running away unarmed in the back. 




You are implying no police racism is involved...I don't read evey thread posted here.  Certainly didn't hear you mention his guilt in the matter. I'm surprised you found him to be a murderer. In years passed, you seem to think police can do no wrong.

4 months ago  ::  Jul 25, 2020 - 2:44PM #63
bertram
Posts: 14,033

From the many, many documented incidents over the years around the country, it does not appear that racism has played much of a role in screening police department applicants.  Not that many candidates are gonna voice their true feelings on the subject when they are interviewed and given a psychological profile.

4 months ago  ::  Jul 25, 2020 - 2:48PM #64
laurenfrances
Posts: 39,683

Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:44PM, bertram wrote:


From the many, many documented incidents over the years around the country, it does not appear that racism has played much of a role in screening police department applicants.  Not that many candidates are gonna voice their true feelings on the subject when they are interviewed and given a psychological profile.




My sister in law's brother is a detective at 1 Police Plaza and I have high respect for him. Purity upon officers are over rated.

4 months ago  ::  Jul 25, 2020 - 2:50PM #65
yank0428
Posts: 18,446

Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:41PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:37PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:13PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 1:27PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 1:01PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 12:01PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 8:06AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:58PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:45PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:31PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 6:51PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 3:38PM, yank0428 wrote:


I didn't vote for Trump so your wrong again. Rather someone else was running but he is and he's  not Biden, Pelosi or Schumer. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


As I recall, you were a strong Kasich supporter in '16. What's your feeling re his intention to speak at the Democratic Convention in support of Biden?




I know Kasich doesn't like Trump. He has the right to support who he wants but if he does support Biden he should switch parties.


 I honestly think Biden will be a puppet to the far left libs. 


 Whats your thoughts on this?  


Joe Biden’s disastrous plans for America’s suburbs   


nypost.com/2020/07/21/joe-bidens-disastr...




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


I assume you had a valid reason for supporting Kasich. Just seems odd that now you feel he should change parties simply because he doesn't support Trump, much like many truly conservative Republicans. That list is very long.


As for the NY Post "disastrous plan" sensational headline, I'd have to research that further before forming an opinion. 




I supported Kasich because I thought he might have a chance to bring both parties together. Those days are gone after the last few years .If he is going to support Biden who is the pocket of the far left libs I feel he should change parties.


 I don't consider any of those in the Lincoln project conservatives. IMO no true conservative could support Biden. Sanctuary cities. Healthcare for those here illegally. Weaking our military. Defunding our Police. It's more that they let their personal dislike for Trump affect them. Lets be real they all have been in the in the swamp forever.




This is what trumpies like you have trouble understanding, the Lincold Project supports our country and it's people, they can see donald and you troumpies only seem to care about lining your/their pockets as donald and his family have since they walked through the doors of the WH... It's about time some people, whether it's (D) or (R) start looking at whats good for this country, it's for sure the (R) that are in power right now have that the furthurist from their minds... Working together is what our forfathers wanted, a coutry run by one man that wants to be a dictator is not what they had in mind !!!




 The Lincoln Project is a bunch of political hacks who are the embodiment of the swamp. Nobody but the left cares what they think.


So old wise one whats good for our country? Politicians who let the mob rule. Politicians who ignore laws they don't like but enforce other laws that suit their agenda. Pour paint on a BLM sign it's a hate crime. Paint Kill the Pigs on a church and ignore it. Do you see what's going on in Dem run cities? Portland where Biden is ignoring the violence but call out for egregious acts the Feds Law enforcement there to protect fed property . Seattle dem mayor lets them take over a city calling it a summer of love while two kids where killed there. Chicago where the Mayor calls out the President who offers help but does nothing about the slaughter of blacks every week going on there. Who caters to the mob taking a statue down of Columbus in the middle of the night.In NYC you have Cops getting assaulted but the GOV, Mayor and state AG are more interested in a Cop who pushed a protestor down. Focus on closing restaurants who serve people a few beers without food but encourage thousands march the streets during a pandemic. Nothing to do with lining our pocketbooks. The poltical hacks just bent over backwards to shut down a Back the Blue protest on LongIsland saying speakers from out of the state wouldn't be allowed into the state during the lockdown. Do you see there is freedom of speech only for those who support their narrative. That's OK to you. 14 Cops killed since George Floyd was murdered. Every Police Officer I know thought that was criminal and terrible but silence from the left on those Cops. Silence from the left on David Dorn. Change your name to YankeeOldFool. 


 Oh he is one of the founders of BLM.Great marxist group who is in favor of breaking up families. This is who the Left support over the Police.


Black Lives Matter leader Charles Wade charged with sex trafficking


www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/19...


 The left caters to the loudest voices but the silent majority is watching in disgust and this will shock you but it's a lot of black people. They want law and order because they are the victims who suffer the most.




Leader? From my understand the founder of BLM are 3 gals...Alicia GarzaPatrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi,  If he's guilty as charge, he deserves to be in the slammer. BLM has become in organization that is wide spread. Their organization would not be necessary if police did their job with parity.


As with any organization you will find corrupt members as we found within various police dept. No group is exempt from it.  In fact it's more heinous within police dept as they are public servants paid by tax payers to maintain and provide safety. 




Really. Can you back that up with stats? NYPD is the most diverse Police Department in the world. There are over 800,000 Law Enforcement Officers in the US. They have millions of interactions every year the public. Two Police Officers were charged with wrongly killing a unarmed Black person last year and both were charged and convicted. I haven't heard one Police Officer in private or Public not be outraged at what happened to George Floyd but all the heat goes to every cop in the country for what one murderer did in Minneapolis. That seems fair. Lets call every NFL player an abuser of women because they are much more likely to do that then a Police Officer kill a unarmed black person. Lets not hold these career politicians responsible who run the Dem cities and control their Police Departments for what goes on in these cities. No just the Cops who follow orders and the laws these politicians pass and tell them to enforce. 


 Nothing on the kids in cages in 2014? I guess it doesn't fit the narrative . 


BLM a group who chants they want dead cops. No problem I guess. Any group that supports the police and has a rally they show up to cause problems.  They actually use Michael Brown and Travon Martin as victims of police brutality. They call Police Officers terrorist's.Ignored.




     The Myth of Systemic Police Racism


Hold officers accountable who use excessive force. But there’s no evidence of widespread racial bias.


www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemi...


 Ignore the stats it doesn't fit the narrative.




     








Are you saying police are exempt from wrong doing? Chauvin, knelt on Floyd's neck for nearly eight minutes is in the right? So every organization has their share of bad eggs with the exception to pristine police departments.  If you believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you.




OMG can you read.I posted to you I havent heard one Police Officer condone what Chauvin did. I called him a muderer. Everybody I know thinks he is. So was the Cop in South Carolina who shot that guy running away unarmed in the back. 




You are implying no police racism is involved...I don't read evey thread posted here.  Certainly didn't hear you mention his guilt in the matter. I'm surprised you found him to be a murderer. In years passed, you seem to think police can do no wrong.




Well again your misinformed. I posted to you in another thread today calling him one. I'm stating based on stats from the Justice Department its not systemic. There are like any job a few bad apples who should be prosecuted but they are a very small minority.

4 months ago  ::  Jul 25, 2020 - 2:53PM #66
laurenfrances
Posts: 39,683

Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:50PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:41PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:37PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:13PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 1:27PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 1:01PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 12:01PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 8:06AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:58PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:45PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:31PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 6:51PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 3:38PM, yank0428 wrote:


I didn't vote for Trump so your wrong again. Rather someone else was running but he is and he's  not Biden, Pelosi or Schumer. 




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


As I recall, you were a strong Kasich supporter in '16. What's your feeling re his intention to speak at the Democratic Convention in support of Biden?




I know Kasich doesn't like Trump. He has the right to support who he wants but if he does support Biden he should switch parties.


 I honestly think Biden will be a puppet to the far left libs. 


 Whats your thoughts on this?  


Joe Biden’s disastrous plans for America’s suburbs   


nypost.com/2020/07/21/joe-bidens-disastr...




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


I assume you had a valid reason for supporting Kasich. Just seems odd that now you feel he should change parties simply because he doesn't support Trump, much like many truly conservative Republicans. That list is very long.


As for the NY Post "disastrous plan" sensational headline, I'd have to research that further before forming an opinion. 




I supported Kasich because I thought he might have a chance to bring both parties together. Those days are gone after the last few years .If he is going to support Biden who is the pocket of the far left libs I feel he should change parties.


 I don't consider any of those in the Lincoln project conservatives. IMO no true conservative could support Biden. Sanctuary cities. Healthcare for those here illegally. Weaking our military. Defunding our Police. It's more that they let their personal dislike for Trump affect them. Lets be real they all have been in the in the swamp forever.




This is what trumpies like you have trouble understanding, the Lincold Project supports our country and it's people, they can see donald and you troumpies only seem to care about lining your/their pockets as donald and his family have since they walked through the doors of the WH... It's about time some people, whether it's (D) or (R) start looking at whats good for this country, it's for sure the (R) that are in power right now have that the furthurist from their minds... Working together is what our forfathers wanted, a coutry run by one man that wants to be a dictator is not what they had in mind !!!




 The Lincoln Project is a bunch of political hacks who are the embodiment of the swamp. Nobody but the left cares what they think.


So old wise one whats good for our country? Politicians who let the mob rule. Politicians who ignore laws they don't like but enforce other laws that suit their agenda. Pour paint on a BLM sign it's a hate crime. Paint Kill the Pigs on a church and ignore it. Do you see what's going on in Dem run cities? Portland where Biden is ignoring the violence but call out for egregious acts the Feds Law enforcement there to protect fed property . Seattle dem mayor lets them take over a city calling it a summer of love while two kids where killed there. Chicago where the Mayor calls out the President who offers help but does nothing about the slaughter of blacks every week going on there. Who caters to the mob taking a statue down of Columbus in the middle of the night.In NYC you have Cops getting assaulted but the GOV, Mayor and state AG are more interested in a Cop who pushed a protestor down. Focus on closing restaurants who serve people a few beers without food but encourage thousands march the streets during a pandemic. Nothing to do with lining our pocketbooks. The poltical hacks just bent over backwards to shut down a Back the Blue protest on LongIsland saying speakers from out of the state wouldn't be allowed into the state during the lockdown. Do you see there is freedom of speech only for those who support their narrative. That's OK to you. 14 Cops killed since George Floyd was murdered. Every Police Officer I know thought that was criminal and terrible but silence from the left on those Cops. Silence from the left on David Dorn. Change your name to YankeeOldFool. 


 Oh he is one of the founders of BLM.Great marxist group who is in favor of breaking up families. This is who the Left support over the Police.


Black Lives Matter leader Charles Wade charged with sex trafficking


www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/19...


 The left caters to the loudest voices but the silent majority is watching in disgust and this will shock you but it's a lot of black people. They want law and order because they are the victims who suffer the most.




Leader? From my understand the founder of BLM are 3 gals...Alicia GarzaPatrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi,  If he's guilty as charge, he deserves to be in the slammer. BLM has become in organization that is wide spread. Their organization would not be necessary if police did their job with parity.


As with any organization you will find corrupt members as we found within various police dept. No group is exempt from it.  In fact it's more heinous within police dept as they are public servants paid by tax payers to maintain and provide safety. 




Really. Can you back that up with stats? NYPD is the most diverse Police Department in the world. There are over 800,000 Law Enforcement Officers in the US. They have millions of interactions every year the public. Two Police Officers were charged with wrongly killing a unarmed Black person last year and both were charged and convicted. I haven't heard one Police Officer in private or Public not be outraged at what happened to George Floyd but all the heat goes to every cop in the country for what one murderer did in Minneapolis. That seems fair. Lets call every NFL player an abuser of women because they are much more likely to do that then a Police Officer kill a unarmed black person. Lets not hold these career politicians responsible who run the Dem cities and control their Police Departments for what goes on in these cities. No just the Cops who follow orders and the laws these politicians pass and tell them to enforce. 


 Nothing on the kids in cages in 2014? I guess it doesn't fit the narrative . 


BLM a group who chants they want dead cops. No problem I guess. Any group that supports the police and has a rally they show up to cause problems.  They actually use Michael Brown and Travon Martin as victims of police brutality. They call Police Officers terrorist's.Ignored.




     The Myth of Systemic Police Racism


Hold officers accountable who use excessive force. But there’s no evidence of widespread racial bias.


www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemi...


 Ignore the stats it doesn't fit the narrative.




     








Are you saying police are exempt from wrong doing? Chauvin, knelt on Floyd's neck for nearly eight minutes is in the right? So every organization has their share of bad eggs with the exception to pristine police departments.  If you believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you.




OMG can you read.I posted to you I havent heard one Police Officer condone what Chauvin did. I called him a muderer. Everybody I know thinks he is. So was the Cop in South Carolina who shot that guy running away unarmed in the back. 




You are implying no police racism is involved...I don't read evey thread posted here.  Certainly didn't hear you mention his guilt in the matter. I'm surprised you found him to be a murderer. In years passed, you seem to think police can do no wrong.




Well again your misinformed. I posted to you in another thread today calling him one. I'm stating based on stats from the Justice Department its not systemic. There are like any job a few bad apples who should be prosecuted but they are a very small minority.




ok...I don't know about a very small minority but indeed a minority.

4 months ago  ::  Jul 25, 2020 - 3:03PM #67
yank0428
Posts: 18,446

Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:53PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:50PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:41PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:37PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:13PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 1:27PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 1:01PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 12:01PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 8:06AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:58PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:45PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 7:31PM, yank0428 wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 6:51PM, SSBob wrote:


Jul 24, 2020 -- 3:38PM, yank0428 wrote:


I didn't vote for Trump so your wrong again. Rather someone else was running but he is and he's  not Biden, Pelosi or Schumer. 




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As I recall, you were a strong Kasich supporter in '16. What's your feeling re his intention to speak at the Democratic Convention in support of Biden?




I know Kasich doesn't like Trump. He has the right to support who he wants but if he does support Biden he should switch parties.


 I honestly think Biden will be a puppet to the far left libs. 


 Whats your thoughts on this?  


Joe Biden’s disastrous plans for America’s suburbs   


nypost.com/2020/07/21/joe-bidens-disastr...




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I assume you had a valid reason for supporting Kasich. Just seems odd that now you feel he should change parties simply because he doesn't support Trump, much like many truly conservative Republicans. That list is very long.


As for the NY Post "disastrous plan" sensational headline, I'd have to research that further before forming an opinion. 




I supported Kasich because I thought he might have a chance to bring both parties together. Those days are gone after the last few years .If he is going to support Biden who is the pocket of the far left libs I feel he should change parties.


 I don't consider any of those in the Lincoln project conservatives. IMO no true conservative could support Biden. Sanctuary cities. Healthcare for those here illegally. Weaking our military. Defunding our Police. It's more that they let their personal dislike for Trump affect them. Lets be real they all have been in the in the swamp forever.




This is what trumpies like you have trouble understanding, the Lincold Project supports our country and it's people, they can see donald and you troumpies only seem to care about lining your/their pockets as donald and his family have since they walked through the doors of the WH... It's about time some people, whether it's (D) or (R) start looking at whats good for this country, it's for sure the (R) that are in power right now have that the furthurist from their minds... Working together is what our forfathers wanted, a coutry run by one man that wants to be a dictator is not what they had in mind !!!




 The Lincoln Project is a bunch of political hacks who are the embodiment of the swamp. Nobody but the left cares what they think.


So old wise one whats good for our country? Politicians who let the mob rule. Politicians who ignore laws they don't like but enforce other laws that suit their agenda. Pour paint on a BLM sign it's a hate crime. Paint Kill the Pigs on a church and ignore it. Do you see what's going on in Dem run cities? Portland where Biden is ignoring the violence but call out for egregious acts the Feds Law enforcement there to protect fed property . Seattle dem mayor lets them take over a city calling it a summer of love while two kids where killed there. Chicago where the Mayor calls out the President who offers help but does nothing about the slaughter of blacks every week going on there. Who caters to the mob taking a statue down of Columbus in the middle of the night.In NYC you have Cops getting assaulted but the GOV, Mayor and state AG are more interested in a Cop who pushed a protestor down. Focus on closing restaurants who serve people a few beers without food but encourage thousands march the streets during a pandemic. Nothing to do with lining our pocketbooks. The poltical hacks just bent over backwards to shut down a Back the Blue protest on LongIsland saying speakers from out of the state wouldn't be allowed into the state during the lockdown. Do you see there is freedom of speech only for those who support their narrative. That's OK to you. 14 Cops killed since George Floyd was murdered. Every Police Officer I know thought that was criminal and terrible but silence from the left on those Cops. Silence from the left on David Dorn. Change your name to YankeeOldFool. 


 Oh he is one of the founders of BLM.Great marxist group who is in favor of breaking up families. This is who the Left support over the Police.


Black Lives Matter leader Charles Wade charged with sex trafficking


www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/may/19...


 The left caters to the loudest voices but the silent majority is watching in disgust and this will shock you but it's a lot of black people. They want law and order because they are the victims who suffer the most.




Leader? From my understand the founder of BLM are 3 gals...Alicia GarzaPatrisse Cullors, and Opal Tometi,  If he's guilty as charge, he deserves to be in the slammer. BLM has become in organization that is wide spread. Their organization would not be necessary if police did their job with parity.


As with any organization you will find corrupt members as we found within various police dept. No group is exempt from it.  In fact it's more heinous within police dept as they are public servants paid by tax payers to maintain and provide safety. 




Really. Can you back that up with stats? NYPD is the most diverse Police Department in the world. There are over 800,000 Law Enforcement Officers in the US. They have millions of interactions every year the public. Two Police Officers were charged with wrongly killing a unarmed Black person last year and both were charged and convicted. I haven't heard one Police Officer in private or Public not be outraged at what happened to George Floyd but all the heat goes to every cop in the country for what one murderer did in Minneapolis. That seems fair. Lets call every NFL player an abuser of women because they are much more likely to do that then a Police Officer kill a unarmed black person. Lets not hold these career politicians responsible who run the Dem cities and control their Police Departments for what goes on in these cities. No just the Cops who follow orders and the laws these politicians pass and tell them to enforce. 


 Nothing on the kids in cages in 2014? I guess it doesn't fit the narrative . 


BLM a group who chants they want dead cops. No problem I guess. Any group that supports the police and has a rally they show up to cause problems.  They actually use Michael Brown and Travon Martin as victims of police brutality. They call Police Officers terrorist's.Ignored.




     The Myth of Systemic Police Racism


Hold officers accountable who use excessive force. But there’s no evidence of widespread racial bias.


www.wsj.com/articles/the-myth-of-systemi...


 Ignore the stats it doesn't fit the narrative.




     








Are you saying police are exempt from wrong doing? Chauvin, knelt on Floyd's neck for nearly eight minutes is in the right? So every organization has their share of bad eggs with the exception to pristine police departments.  If you believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you.




OMG can you read.I posted to you I havent heard one Police Officer condone what Chauvin did. I called him a muderer. Everybody I know thinks he is. So was the Cop in South Carolina who shot that guy running away unarmed in the back. 




You are implying no police racism is involved...I don't read evey thread posted here.  Certainly didn't hear you mention his guilt in the matter. I'm surprised you found him to be a murderer. In years passed, you seem to think police can do no wrong.




Well again your misinformed. I posted to you in another thread today calling him one. I'm stating based on stats from the Justice Department its not systemic. There are like any job a few bad apples who should be prosecuted but they are a very small minority.




ok...I don't know about a very small minority but indeed a minority.




Very much so but not according to BLM and their supporters.

4 months ago  ::  Jul 25, 2020 - 3:06PM #68
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4 months ago  ::  Jul 25, 2020 - 3:23PM #69
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Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:48PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Jul 25, 2020 -- 2:44PM, bertram wrote:


From the many, many documented incidents over the years around the country, it does not appear that racism has played much of a role in screening police department applicants.  Not that many candidates are gonna voice their true feelings on the subject when they are interviewed and given a psychological profile.




My sister in law's brother is a detective at 1 Police Plaza. Purity upon officers are over rated.




When I was operating my old house restoration business, one of my carpenters decided to apply for a job as a highway patrolman with the State Police.  He asked me to write a letter of recommendation for him.  I was honest with him and said that he probably would not want me to write such a letter, given what I knew about his views on race and women.  We had a very diverse staff, including three females on design, artistic and painting crews (one Asian-American, one whose parents came from Puerto Rico) and 12 males on the painting and carpentry crews.  The males included one Black Muslim, one immigrant from Pakistan, and nine local White guys.  We subbed out roofing jobs to a White Contractor from Texas, and his crew included several Hispanic males.


I promoted the Asian-American woman to lead the paint crews and gave her a raise equal to that of the future highway patrol applicant.  Well, he was miffed about that...coming to talk to me in private when he heard about it.  He complained that she wasn't worth that kind of money, even though she was more experienced in the trades than he was. It became very clear that he was upset that a woman was being paid at the same rate as he was...even though he was not our carpentry foreman.  A couple of weeks later, this carpenter came to me and said he had been offered a higher salary with another restoration outfit.  He said he was reluctant to leave, so if I would only give him a raise to equal about half of the difference he would stay.  I told him he should snatch the opportunity with the other company.  It was immediately apparent that this was not the answer he expected.  He tried to persuade me to keep him on.  I did not change my mind.


The first reason I did not change my mind should be obvious.  I didn't know whether the offer from the other company was bonafide; I didn't bother to check.  It was the second reason that really sealed it.  He was not an aggressive racist, but his behavior made it clear that our immigrants were not his "favorite" members of our crews...nor were the women.  The Black Muslim carpenter...forget about it.  My foreman and I allowed him to use lunch and break times to observe his prayer cycle.  This also miffed our future police applicant.  At that point, following his request for a raise, I was glad to see him walk.


Turns out he did go to work for another company...for a short time.  Not long after, his application to the State Police came back "approved".  I have often wondered over the years what kind of a cop he turned into.  My guess at the time was that the power that came with the badge, the gun, combined with his 6' 4" 240 lb. frame would only encourage his racist tendencies. 

4 months ago  ::  Jul 25, 2020 - 3:48PM #70
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