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Luke Voit
3 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2020 - 2:33PM #31
newinn
Posts: 36,232

In 8 years, he has played 100 games twice. 234 hitter, has double digit steals 3 times. Never thought he went back on fly balls all that well. Never said I hated him, just not that impressed with him. Thought he was supposed to be more when the Yankees traded for him

3 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2020 - 2:38PM #32
louisiana_lightning
Posts: 19,922

Sep 13, 2020 -- 2:33PM, newinn wrote:


In 8 years, he has played 100 games twice. 234 hitter, has double digit steals 3 times. Never thought he went back on fly balls all that well. Never said I hated him, just not that impressed with him. Thought he was supposed to be more when the Yankees traded for him




He was a Dustin Ackley when the Yankees traded for him.  Hicks has not been great but not the bust he was for the Twins.  He probably will never realize his promise for more than short spurts.

3 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2020 - 2:45PM #33
jimwest
Posts: 3,160


Sep 13, 2020 -- 2:04PM, Max wrote:


Sep 12, 2020 -- 6:38PM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 12, 2020 -- 6:14PM, Max wrote:


Sep 12, 2020 -- 4:36PM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 12, 2020 -- 4:32PM, jimwest wrote:


Sep 12, 2020 -- 4:30PM, chl45 wrote:


Way to go Luke!! Just a game winning sac fly after a major battle against their pitcher fouling off 7 or 8 pitches til he got one to drive to the outfield. Ho hum. So predictable Luke. Just another big hit for  Hand Luke! Love this guys focus in big spots lately especially. All business.




A real tough at bat that led to the sac fly. So glad the O's decided to pitch to him, as he has been clutch.




Question Jim. If Luke stays hot, which from all indications he just might, and Judge comes back, do you take Judge coming off a long IL stint, and put him back in the 2 hole or do you leave Luke there and put Judge in the three hole where he should be all the time anyway IMO. Your old school, what is your answer to that? If you see this Newinn, what would you do there?




Not Jim or Newinn, but I would like to answer your question if you don't mind. Old school thinking would have the best hitter batting third in a MLB line up. So in my opinion, until the Yankees get a true leadoff hitter Torres should lead off, Voit seems to have found a home batting 2nd, and DJ is the best hitter on the team.


Torres


Voit


DJ


Judge


Stanton





No problem Max. Not much to disagree with there except this idea. While Hicks doesn't have much offensive value, what he does have is a decent on base percentage due to his leading the league in walks. He does that well and is selective at the plate and has a good eye for balls and strikes. He does seem to get on base a lot one way or another. He also has speed. SO to me I would lead him off until a real leadoff hitter presents himself. I agree that DJ is being wasted leading off. Don't like it because this team has very few contact guys on it at this point. My recomendation would be this for the first 6 and these guys play every day. They are considered "Starters" on this team. The rest can be adjustable: It's a combo new and old school.


Hicks


DJ


Luke


Judge


Torres


Stanton


 I see Jimwest has Judge and Stanton apart also in his line up.




Torres career OBP is a bit higher than Hicks. I get the point you're making, Hicks does work the count, but I'm not a Hicks fan. I don't know who will be available this winter, but the Yankees need a true leadoff hitter. I like your idea of Torres between Judge and Stanton, if and when the Yankees get a true leadoff hitter. I will be rooting for the Yankees to make a fair trade for David Fletcher who can play the Outfield as well as 2B, 3B, and SS.




Go get Kevin Pillar, he is a FA. Who would you trade for Fletcher?

3 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2020 - 4:14PM #34
chl45
Posts: 2,564

Back to Luke for a second. He let that second AB, when he missed another fastball down the middle get to him AND it ruined his entire day. I think he forgot there are no fans in the stands and his screaming out G'dammit was obvious how upset he was with himself. Other than that great game today, and Torres should a started that game but he came in when it counted. Thankfully Baltimore's manager messed up and brought in a lefty and forgot Torres was on the bench. Game, set, match! 

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
3 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2020 - 8:32PM #35
manbot
Posts: 1,069

Sep 13, 2020 -- 12:35PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 13, 2020 -- 9:30AM, manbot wrote:


Sep 13, 2020 -- 8:27AM, Judge wrote:


So much Hicks hate.


He's coming off of TJ surgery, I expected a bit of rust.  In a normal season I would have given him more time than this season lasts to get his swing and timing down.   41 games and people are all over a player who's rusty and returning from surgery.


He's walking over 20% of the time, has over a .370 OBP and still hasn't gotten it going at all with the bat.   Imagine if he does.   You'd be talking about a switch hitting CF with an OBP over .400 and with power.


But yeah, he sucks.   Even though he's on a pace for close to a 4 WAR season and hasn't gotten his swing going yet, terrible.  Killing the team.




Agree ... Hicks is good player. Much better than Gardner or Tauchman 


He' a very good fielder,  has a high OBP, and natural power (unlike Gardner who's avg and OBP suffer significantly when he is swinging for the fences) 


I think if Hicks stays healthy he has some very good years ahead of him ... He's kind of Bernie light ... Bernie without the high avg    




Bernie light?? Yeah, very light. Bernie without the high average, now that is laughable. What natural power, look at his home run totals the past couple of years and he has 4 this year. Some power.




LADY ... No One and I mean No One values your uneducated baseball opinion. You are defintely the most uneducated baseball fan on this site ... that's not close and not debatable.


Hicks' 162 game avg from 2017 to 2019 is 31HR 96RBI and 99 BBs ...


Bernies career 162 game avg is 22 HR 98 RBI and 85 BBS 


So Hicks actually walks at a higher rate than Bernie and has more power ... Bernie is without question the better hitter overall and better player but they have similarities ... you just wouldnt undertsand but that's ok 

3 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2020 - 8:37PM #36
manbot
Posts: 1,069

Sep 13, 2020 -- 2:33PM, newinn wrote:


In 8 years, he has played 100 games twice. 234 hitter, has double digit steals 3 times. Never thought he went back on fly balls all that well. Never said I hated him, just not that impressed with him. Thought he was supposed to be more when the Yankees traded for him




Why the Hell would you think that????


They traded for a guy that had a career  .225 avg and .660 OPS what were you expecting.


Then again you're not sold on Voit so guess you expect better from him as well

3 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2020 - 8:52PM #37
newinn
Posts: 36,232

Sep 13, 2020 -- 8:37PM, manbot wrote:


Sep 13, 2020 -- 2:33PM, newinn wrote:


In 8 years, he has played 100 games twice. 234 hitter, has double digit steals 3 times. Never thought he went back on fly balls all that well. Never said I hated him, just not that impressed with him. Thought he was supposed to be more when the Yankees traded for him




Why the Hell would you think that????


They traded for a guy that had a career  .225 avg and .660 OPS what were you expecting.


Then again you're not sold on Voit so guess you expect better from him as well




well, I don't expect anything fromn you. Kiss off kid

3 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2020 - 10:00PM #38
luvdayanks
Posts: 28,223

Sep 13, 2020 -- 8:32PM, manbot wrote:


Sep 13, 2020 -- 12:35PM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 13, 2020 -- 9:30AM, manbot wrote:


Sep 13, 2020 -- 8:27AM, Judge wrote:


So much Hicks hate.


He's coming off of TJ surgery, I expected a bit of rust.  In a normal season I would have given him more time than this season lasts to get his swing and timing down.   41 games and people are all over a player who's rusty and returning from surgery.


He's walking over 20% of the time, has over a .370 OBP and still hasn't gotten it going at all with the bat.   Imagine if he does.   You'd be talking about a switch hitting CF with an OBP over .400 and with power.


But yeah, he sucks.   Even though he's on a pace for close to a 4 WAR season and hasn't gotten his swing going yet, terrible.  Killing the team.




Agree ... Hicks is good player. Much better than Gardner or Tauchman 


He' a very good fielder,  has a high OBP, and natural power (unlike Gardner who's avg and OBP suffer significantly when he is swinging for the fences) 


I think if Hicks stays healthy he has some very good years ahead of him ... He's kind of Bernie light ... Bernie without the high avg    




Bernie light?? Yeah, very light. Bernie without the high average, now that is laughable. What natural power, look at his home run totals the past couple of years and he has 4 this year. Some power.




LADY ... No One and I mean No One values your uneducated baseball opinion. You are defintely the most uneducated baseball fan on this site ... that's not close and not debatable.


Hicks' 162 game avg from 2017 to 2019 is 31HR 96RBI and 99 BBs ...


Bernies career 162 game avg is 22 HR 98 RBI and 85 BBS 


So Hicks actually walks at a higher rate than Bernie and has more power ... Bernie is without question the better hitter overall and better player but they have similarities ... you just wouldnt undertsand but that's ok 




And your delusion continues. They have similarities?? You're comparing Bernies career .290 ba and 289 home runs, 1257 rbi to Hicks .234 ba 86 home runs and 289 rbi???  And,  you're going to compare Hicks 3 year pro rated statistics to Bernies actual statistics? Hicks has only played 100 plus games 3 years in his career so you can pro rate all you want but you're comparing apples to oranges. You're not only delusional, you're an idiot. I'd look in the mirror before calling someone uneducated. I've forgotten more baseball than you ever knew, which obviously isn't much.

3 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2020 - 11:06PM #39
bumper
Posts: 8,113

Sep 13, 2020 -- 9:30AM, manbot wrote:


Sep 13, 2020 -- 8:27AM, Judge wrote:


So much Hicks hate.


He's coming off of TJ surgery, I expected a bit of rust.  In a normal season I would have given him more time than this season lasts to get his swing and timing down.   41 games and people are all over a player who's rusty and returning from surgery.


He's walking over 20% of the time, has over a .370 OBP and still hasn't gotten it going at all with the bat.   Imagine if he does.   You'd be talking about a switch hitting CF with an OBP over .400 and with power.


But yeah, he sucks.   Even though he's on a pace for close to a 4 WAR season and hasn't gotten his swing going yet, terrible.  Killing the team.




Agree ... Hicks is good player. Much better than Gardner or Tauchman 


He' a very good fielder,  has a high OBP, and natural power (unlike Gardner who's avg and OBP suffer significantly when he is swinging for the fences) 


I think if Hicks stays healthy he has some very good years ahead of him ... He's kind of Bernie light ... Bernie without the high avg    




first of all, let's see him healthy so we can see what he really can do. and he's more like bernie ultra-light. let's see bernie hit .300+ 8 seasons. oh 100 RBI 5 times. 5 time all star. let's throw in 4 gold gloves. hicks has an 0-fer in all those departments. whenever bernie came up in a big spot, i was confident that he would come through. not so with hicksie. i've always thought of bernie as part of the core 5. hicks ain't even close.


would be thrilled if he turned into even a bernie light. the good news i guess is that his contract isn't onerous so he can be traded.

3 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2020 - 11:28PM #40
luvdayanks
Posts: 28,223

Sep 13, 2020 -- 11:06PM, bumper wrote:


Sep 13, 2020 -- 9:30AM, manbot wrote:


Sep 13, 2020 -- 8:27AM, Judge wrote:


So much Hicks hate.


He's coming off of TJ surgery, I expected a bit of rust.  In a normal season I would have given him more time than this season lasts to get his swing and timing down.   41 games and people are all over a player who's rusty and returning from surgery.


He's walking over 20% of the time, has over a .370 OBP and still hasn't gotten it going at all with the bat.   Imagine if he does.   You'd be talking about a switch hitting CF with an OBP over .400 and with power.


But yeah, he sucks.   Even though he's on a pace for close to a 4 WAR season and hasn't gotten his swing going yet, terrible.  Killing the team.




Agree ... Hicks is good player. Much better than Gardner or Tauchman 


He' a very good fielder,  has a high OBP, and natural power (unlike Gardner who's avg and OBP suffer significantly when he is swinging for the fences) 


I think if Hicks stays healthy he has some very good years ahead of him ... He's kind of Bernie light ... Bernie without the high avg    




first of all, let's see him healthy so we can see what he really can do. and he's more like bernie ultra-light. let's see bernie hit .300+ 8 seasons. oh 100 RBI 5 times. 5 time all star. let's throw in 4 gold gloves. hicks has an 0-fer in all those departments. whenever bernie came up in a big spot, i was confident that he would come through. not so with hicksie. i've always thought of bernie as part of the core 5. hicks ain't even close.


would be thrilled if he turned into even a bernie light. the good news i guess is that his contract isn't onerous so he can be traded.




Well Bumper, he's the most delusional poster on this board and trying to talk common sense to him is impossible. Comparing Hicks to Bernie is like comparing a Cadillac to a Yugo.

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