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2 weeks ago  ::  Sep 16, 2020 - 8:37AM #31
luvdayanks
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Sep 16, 2020 -- 8:13AM, Rob wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 5:54AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 2:31AM, Body Suit Man wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:48PM, Rob wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:40PM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:30PM, bumper wrote:


tonite's lineup should be interesting. do urshela & stanton both play? stanton's this soon is a bit of a surprise. let the stanton bashing and second guessing of sending andujar begin ...




I get Ford. If Andujar had better defense he would be here and Wade would be gone I guess. Wade can't and never will be a hitter IMO. But he is fast and his defense is versatile for a lot of positions so I get why he is here. I heard in a pinch he can also go behind the plate!




Wade has value, especially on a 28 man roster or even a 26 man roster, especially if he can serve as the emergency 3rd catcher.  But that value does not include being an every day player.




I think you keep Wade for his speed especially with that starting a man at second in extra innings silliness. Gardner has definately lost a step.




The runner at second in extra innings is the batter that made the last out in the previous inning. It's not a choice who goes to second. 




Or you can pinch run for thet guy.  But if Wade is already in the game then, of course, he is not an option.




True, and that would depend who the last batter was. Probably wouldn't pinch run for most of the lineup.

2 weeks ago  ::  Sep 16, 2020 - 10:42AM #32
Rob
Posts: 899

Sep 16, 2020 -- 8:37AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 8:13AM, Rob wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 5:54AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 2:31AM, Body Suit Man wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:48PM, Rob wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:40PM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:30PM, bumper wrote:


tonite's lineup should be interesting. do urshela & stanton both play? stanton's this soon is a bit of a surprise. let the stanton bashing and second guessing of sending andujar begin ...




I get Ford. If Andujar had better defense he would be here and Wade would be gone I guess. Wade can't and never will be a hitter IMO. But he is fast and his defense is versatile for a lot of positions so I get why he is here. I heard in a pinch he can also go behind the plate!




Wade has value, especially on a 28 man roster or even a 26 man roster, especially if he can serve as the emergency 3rd catcher.  But that value does not include being an every day player.




I think you keep Wade for his speed especially with that starting a man at second in extra innings silliness. Gardner has definately lost a step.




The runner at second in extra innings is the batter that made the last out in the previous inning. It's not a choice who goes to second. 




Or you can pinch run for thet guy.  But if Wade is already in the game then, of course, he is not an option.




True, and that would depend who the last batter was. Probably wouldn't pinch run for most of the lineup.




the starting with a runner on 2B in extra innings is likely a one off for this season.  But therre are some parks that are harder to score from 2B on a single than others.  Fenway, for example.  Guys like Voit or Sanchez likely stop at 3B on a hard hit single to FF.

2 weeks ago  ::  Sep 16, 2020 - 10:54AM #33
luvdayanks
Posts: 27,967

Sep 16, 2020 -- 10:42AM, Rob wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 8:37AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 8:13AM, Rob wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 5:54AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 2:31AM, Body Suit Man wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:48PM, Rob wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:40PM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:30PM, bumper wrote:


tonite's lineup should be interesting. do urshela & stanton both play? stanton's this soon is a bit of a surprise. let the stanton bashing and second guessing of sending andujar begin ...




I get Ford. If Andujar had better defense he would be here and Wade would be gone I guess. Wade can't and never will be a hitter IMO. But he is fast and his defense is versatile for a lot of positions so I get why he is here. I heard in a pinch he can also go behind the plate!




Wade has value, especially on a 28 man roster or even a 26 man roster, especially if he can serve as the emergency 3rd catcher.  But that value does not include being an every day player.




I think you keep Wade for his speed especially with that starting a man at second in extra innings silliness. Gardner has definately lost a step.




The runner at second in extra innings is the batter that made the last out in the previous inning. It's not a choice who goes to second. 




Or you can pinch run for thet guy.  But if Wade is already in the game then, of course, he is not an option.




True, and that would depend who the last batter was. Probably wouldn't pinch run for most of the lineup.




the starting with a runner on 2B in extra innings is likely a one off for this season.  But therre are some parks that are harder to score from 2B on a single than others.  Fenway, for example.  Guys like Voit or Sanchez likely stop at 3B on a hard hit single to FF.




Either way Rob, I don't like the rule, it's like watching my grandsons little league game. I'm still not sure what they were getting at trying to shorten extra inning games, last nights game dragged on it seems forever. I realize it's trying to have less contact during covid, but most of the players are breaking every rule between no masks, spitting and contact anyhow.

2 weeks ago  ::  Sep 16, 2020 - 11:17AM #34
Rob
Posts: 899

Sep 16, 2020 -- 10:54AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 10:42AM, Rob wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 8:37AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 8:13AM, Rob wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 5:54AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 2:31AM, Body Suit Man wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:48PM, Rob wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:40PM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:30PM, bumper wrote:


tonite's lineup should be interesting. do urshela & stanton both play? stanton's this soon is a bit of a surprise. let the stanton bashing and second guessing of sending andujar begin ...




I get Ford. If Andujar had better defense he would be here and Wade would be gone I guess. Wade can't and never will be a hitter IMO. But he is fast and his defense is versatile for a lot of positions so I get why he is here. I heard in a pinch he can also go behind the plate!




Wade has value, especially on a 28 man roster or even a 26 man roster, especially if he can serve as the emergency 3rd catcher.  But that value does not include being an every day player.




I think you keep Wade for his speed especially with that starting a man at second in extra innings silliness. Gardner has definately lost a step.




The runner at second in extra innings is the batter that made the last out in the previous inning. It's not a choice who goes to second. 




Or you can pinch run for thet guy.  But if Wade is already in the game then, of course, he is not an option.




True, and that would depend who the last batter was. Probably wouldn't pinch run for most of the lineup.




the starting with a runner on 2B in extra innings is likely a one off for this season.  But therre are some parks that are harder to score from 2B on a single than others.  Fenway, for example.  Guys like Voit or Sanchez likely stop at 3B on a hard hit single to FF.




Either way Rob, I don't like the rule, it's like watching my grandsons little league game. I'm still not sure what they were getting at trying to shorten extra inning games, last nights game dragged on it seems forever. I realize it's trying to have less contact during covid, but most of the players are breaking every rule between no masks, spitting and contact anyhow.




The starting with a runner on 2B in extra innings, 7 inning double headers and 28 man rosters is clearly designed to protect the players over a condensed, albeit shortened, season.  I have to confess I am in the minority here, I like the rules.


I'll tell you one thing I haven't missed, the west coast swings with games that end at 2 AM in the east,

2 weeks ago  ::  Sep 16, 2020 - 11:29AM #35
chl45
Posts: 2,234

Sep 16, 2020 -- 5:54AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 2:31AM, Body Suit Man wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:48PM, Rob wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:40PM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:30PM, bumper wrote:


tonite's lineup should be interesting. do urshela & stanton both play? stanton's this soon is a bit of a surprise. let the stanton bashing and second guessing of sending andujar begin ...




I get Ford. If Andujar had better defense he would be here and Wade would be gone I guess. Wade can't and never will be a hitter IMO. But he is fast and his defense is versatile for a lot of positions so I get why he is here. I heard in a pinch he can also go behind the plate!




Wade has value, especially on a 28 man roster or even a 26 man roster, especially if he can serve as the emergency 3rd catcher.  But that value does not include being an every day player.




I think you keep Wade for his speed especially with that starting a man at second in extra innings silliness. Gardner has definately lost a step.




The runner at second in extra innings is the batter that made the last out in the previous inning. It's not a choice who goes to second. 




Yes, but I think I already saw that you can replace that guy with a pinch runner. In fact I think we did that with Wade once already when DJ was the guy who made the last out.

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1 week ago  ::  Sep 16, 2020 - 11:46AM #36
luvdayanks
Posts: 27,967

Sep 16, 2020 -- 11:29AM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 5:54AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 2:31AM, Body Suit Man wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:48PM, Rob wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:40PM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:30PM, bumper wrote:


tonite's lineup should be interesting. do urshela & stanton both play? stanton's this soon is a bit of a surprise. let the stanton bashing and second guessing of sending andujar begin ...




I get Ford. If Andujar had better defense he would be here and Wade would be gone I guess. Wade can't and never will be a hitter IMO. But he is fast and his defense is versatile for a lot of positions so I get why he is here. I heard in a pinch he can also go behind the plate!




Wade has value, especially on a 28 man roster or even a 26 man roster, especially if he can serve as the emergency 3rd catcher.  But that value does not include being an every day player.




I think you keep Wade for his speed especially with that starting a man at second in extra innings silliness. Gardner has definately lost a step.




The runner at second in extra innings is the batter that made the last out in the previous inning. It's not a choice who goes to second. 




Yes, but I think I already saw that you can replace that guy with a pinch runner. In fact I think we did that with Wade once already when DJ was the guy who made the last out.




You can pinch run, but with this lineup say DJ, Voit, Judgie, Urshela, Torres, or Frazier were the last batter, I don't think you'd want to take the chance to remove any of them in a tie extra inning game even though they did that a couple of times.  Imo most runners have a chance scoring from second and all it takes is a productive out to move him to third where even you and I could score. I guess it's risk, reward in either case.

1 week ago  ::  Sep 16, 2020 - 11:49AM #37
SSBob
Posts: 5,760

Sep 16, 2020 -- 11:17AM, Rob wrote:


The starting with a runner on 2B in extra innings, 7 inning double headers and 28 man rosters is clearly designed to protect the players over a condensed, albeit shortened, season.  I have to confess I am in the minority here, I like the rules.




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1 week ago  ::  Sep 16, 2020 - 11:57AM #38
Body Suit Man
Posts: 13

Sep 16, 2020 -- 5:54AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 2:31AM, Body Suit Man wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:48PM, Rob wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:40PM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:30PM, bumper wrote:


tonite's lineup should be interesting. do urshela & stanton both play? stanton's this soon is a bit of a surprise. let the stanton bashing and second guessing of sending andujar begin ...




I get Ford. If Andujar had better defense he would be here and Wade would be gone I guess. Wade can't and never will be a hitter IMO. But he is fast and his defense is versatile for a lot of positions so I get why he is here. I heard in a pinch he can also go behind the plate!




Wade has value, especially on a 28 man roster or even a 26 man roster, especially if he can serve as the emergency 3rd catcher.  But that value does not include being an every day player.




I think you keep Wade for his speed especially with that starting a man at second in extra innings silliness. Gardner has definately lost a step.




The runner at second in extra innings is the batter that made the last out in the previous inning. It's not a choice who goes to second. 




But you can pinch run for whoever that may be. I think if Stanton made the last out in the 9th then you pinch run for him or he might hurt himself.  

1 week ago  ::  Sep 16, 2020 - 12:23PM #39
luvdayanks
Posts: 27,967

Sep 16, 2020 -- 11:57AM, Body Suit Man wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 5:54AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 2:31AM, Body Suit Man wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:48PM, Rob wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:40PM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 15, 2020 -- 3:30PM, bumper wrote:


tonite's lineup should be interesting. do urshela & stanton both play? stanton's this soon is a bit of a surprise. let the stanton bashing and second guessing of sending andujar begin ...




I get Ford. If Andujar had better defense he would be here and Wade would be gone I guess. Wade can't and never will be a hitter IMO. But he is fast and his defense is versatile for a lot of positions so I get why he is here. I heard in a pinch he can also go behind the plate!




Wade has value, especially on a 28 man roster or even a 26 man roster, especially if he can serve as the emergency 3rd catcher.  But that value does not include being an every day player.




I think you keep Wade for his speed especially with that starting a man at second in extra innings silliness. Gardner has definately lost a step.




The runner at second in extra innings is the batter that made the last out in the previous inning. It's not a choice who goes to second. 




But you can pinch run for whoever that may be. I think if Stanton made the last out in the 9th then you pinch run for him or he might hurt himself.  




As I said in another thread, yes you can pinch run but it's risk reward. I'd take my chances with several in the lineup starting at second base, no pinch runner, and that a productive out moves the runner to third and a sacrifice fly scores him Or a single scores most or at least moves the runner to third. Don't want to remove a Voit, DJ, Urshela or Torres for Wade and if they don't score have him hitting in a spot with runners on in extra innings. As I said, it's risk, reward and could go either way.

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