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Did Higgy just open the Yankees eyes?
4 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2020 - 11:15AM #11
Rob
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Sep 17, 2020 -- 10:48AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Opening eyes, but I'm sure Sanchez put his hands over his eyes every time Higgy came to bat... He has to feel the pressure of Higgy hitting and him striking out just about every time ?? It won't happen because Boone still thinks Sanchez is their # 1 guy, but this team's best offensive team would be last nights lineup with Andujar DH ing would be the best... I hope Judge gets it going before he gets hurt again... Him and Standon just can't stay healthy..




Stanton with his contract is going to be the DH so long a he can walk to the plate unassisted.  Sorry, Miggy.

4 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2020 - 11:19AM #12
chl45
Posts: 2,634

Sep 17, 2020 -- 11:14AM, chl45 wrote:


One of the praises sang about Higgy while he was in the minors, was that he had some pop that could be developed. Well, more AB's will do that to someone who has the talent but not enough playing time to have it sustain any consistency. For a guy who plays as little as Higgy to come in and do what he did last night is simply hard to overlook.


The other reason he was promoted to the Yankee major league team was due to that pop he displayed in the minors. Times to fish or cut bait with Gary maybe. They had Higgy catch and had Gary DH and hit in the same game, facing the same pitchers and Higgy hit 3 homeruns and Gary had a single in five at bats and Higgy went yard three out of four times with 5 RBI's to Gary's 0. Now, fighting for a 5 spot in the playoffs instead of being the 8 seed, you are Boone what do you do? Let's see if Higgy earned a chance to play again.


I also remember Bird hitting 2 home runs in a game after struggling for weeks coming off the IL, and going 3 for 4 in that game and the next game Girardi sat him. I was so ticked off I called into Kays 3 pm show after that happened and two days later I finally got through and Kay who never hardly agrees with any caller going against the manager agrees with me they never should have sat Bird. PS... He never had a game like that again. Just throwing that little tidbit out there how when your hot to stay hot you play everyday and when your young especially. I also think having Tauchman in and out of games all season has affected him as well. My opinion of course. Awful funny how Frazier is killin' it playing most days isn't it?




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4 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2020 - 11:20AM #13
Rob
Posts: 1,138

Sep 17, 2020 -- 11:14AM, chl45 wrote:


One of the praises sang about Higgy while he was in the minors, was that he had some pop that could be developed. Well, more AB's will do that to someone who has the talent but not enough playing time to have it sustain any consistency. For a guy who plays as little as Higgy to come in and do what he did last night is simply hard to overlook.


The other reason he was promoted to the Yankee major league team was due to that pop he displayed in the minors. Times to fish or cut bait with Gary maybe. They had Higgy catch and had Gary DH and hit in the same game, facing the same pitchers and Higgy hit 3 homeruns and Gary had a single in five at bats and Higgy went yard three out of four times with 5 RBI's to Gary's 0. Now, fighting for a 5 spot in the playoffs instead of being the 8 seed, you are Boone what do you do? Let's see if Higgy earned a chance to play again.


I also remember Bird hitting 2 home runs in a game after struggling for weeks coming off the IL, and going 3 for 4 in that game and the next game Girardi sat him. I was so ticked off I called into Kays 3 pm show after that happened and two days later I finally got through and Kay who never hardly agrees with any caller going against the manager agrees with me they never should have sat Bird. PS... He never had a game like that again. Just throwing that little tidbit out there how when your hot to stay hot you play everyday and when your young especially. I also think having Tauchman in and out of games all season has affected him as well. My opinion of course.




I do believe the BS Cashman is spouting about their confidence in Sanchez and how he is their #1 catcher is on a par with Cashman saying he was comfortable with Bubba Crosby as the starting CF - just before they went out and signed Johnny Damon.  Cashman's way of telling other teams they are not going to get Sanchez for a couple of no name prospects.

4 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2020 - 11:23AM #14
bumper
Posts: 8,160

Sep 17, 2020 -- 10:31AM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 11:52PM, bumper wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 11:43PM, chl45 wrote:


The Yankees are commited to him bumper, and the line up we had tonight adding Stanton and Torres to it is lethal for sure. Gary actually has this rep for needing a shove once in awhile from what I read about his mis steps in the minors and of course what happened when Girardi was here with him. That said, and shove aside, he just about got pushed off a cliff tonight with the display by Higgy.lol.. I think that if they give Higgy a few more starts while he is locked in like he is, it may show Higgy just had a good night or he actually has some pop which was the rep on him in the minors that he had HR power at times. SO.. just maybe that will tell the tale on if Higgy has the stuff, and if he does, just how committed are the Yankees to Gary, and it could also get Gary going as well. It will be interesting to see who catches Cole again at least. I think they should start Higgy again tomorrow and sit Gary to be honest.


Sidebar: that last home run by Higgy was no joke, it was more than just a poke, it was as Major League a homerun as it gets by any home run hitter let alone one by a back up catcher, right?. Also Hampfan I agree with you on Frazier!




the first one to center wasn't too shabby either.


actually not sure how they say to higgy tomorrow, "good job kid, you're sitting today." has anyone in the history of the game ever sat the game after hitting 3. he's definitely locked in. agree, think he has to play tomorrow.




It will be interesting to say the least. Also Mark DeRosa who is a great annalist and a big Yankee fan just broke down Judges at bat's yesterday and pointed out something he was doing. While doing so he said that Judge and any player coming back off the IL just needs to get some AB's to get back to what they were doing before going on the IL. DeRosa has a gig he does on that MLB Central show called deep dive where he goes into detail on guys either doing really well and are hot, or guys doing really poorly and in a cold spell and can't hit. He is really good at it. So...he has the same theory any student of the game would have fan or professional and that is GUYS NEED AB's to get into a groove or to hit like they are capable of. They don't need rest coming off a long time without playing.


SO what the Yankees and Boone are doing with Stanton and Judge is not wise looks like, and also may take them longer than necessary to get going. I just wonder why Boone and the Yankees are so insistent about resting these guys. I also think that it leads to a lot of these injuries that haunt the Yankees. We will see what happens with Judge and Stanton with this play a day rest a day play two days rest a day etc. I think it is foolish. Apparently I am not the only one how do you feel about that?



i know i don't have a degree in medicine or physical therapy, how bout you ...


i'm not definitely not a fan of all the "resting" that goes on with this team. however in this case, with these china doll-like players returning from the IL, maybe, just maybe a little caution is necessary. we've seen what happened with judge. he didn't even wanna go on the IL. they put him on anyway. first game back, WHAM reinjured and misses even more time. gleyber, out 2 weeks, comes back, WHAM now he's retweeked his hammy. don't even wanna think about stanton.


so their plan is play a game, take the next day off to see how the player responds and build up cautiously. again i'm not medical person but my sense is that these injuries may not be 100% healed but the player is willing to come back and play. maybe boone's just protecting the players from themselves. they'd rather not lose them again with the post-season beginning in 12 days. and yeah getting ABs is important but given the situation they feel there's enough games for them to get their ABs and still be cautious. it's not really "resting."

4 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2020 - 11:42AM #15
Lola
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Sep 17, 2020 -- 11:23AM, bumper wrote:


Sep 17, 2020 -- 10:31AM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 11:52PM, bumper wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 11:43PM, chl45 wrote:


The Yankees are commited to him bumper, and the line up we had tonight adding Stanton and Torres to it is lethal for sure. Gary actually has this rep for needing a shove once in awhile from what I read about his mis steps in the minors and of course what happened when Girardi was here with him. That said, and shove aside, he just about got pushed off a cliff tonight with the display by Higgy.lol.. I think that if they give Higgy a few more starts while he is locked in like he is, it may show Higgy just had a good night or he actually has some pop which was the rep on him in the minors that he had HR power at times. SO.. just maybe that will tell the tale on if Higgy has the stuff, and if he does, just how committed are the Yankees to Gary, and it could also get Gary going as well. It will be interesting to see who catches Cole again at least. I think they should start Higgy again tomorrow and sit Gary to be honest.


Sidebar: that last home run by Higgy was no joke, it was more than just a poke, it was as Major League a homerun as it gets by any home run hitter let alone one by a back up catcher, right?. Also Hampfan I agree with you on Frazier!




the first one to center wasn't too shabby either.


actually not sure how they say to higgy tomorrow, "good job kid, you're sitting today." has anyone in the history of the game ever sat the game after hitting 3. he's definitely locked in. agree, think he has to play tomorrow.




It will be interesting to say the least. Also Mark DeRosa who is a great annalist and a big Yankee fan just broke down Judges at bat's yesterday and pointed out something he was doing. While doing so he said that Judge and any player coming back off the IL just needs to get some AB's to get back to what they were doing before going on the IL. DeRosa has a gig he does on that MLB Central show called deep dive where he goes into detail on guys either doing really well and are hot, or guys doing really poorly and in a cold spell and can't hit. He is really good at it. So...he has the same theory any student of the game would have fan or professional and that is GUYS NEED AB's to get into a groove or to hit like they are capable of. They don't need rest coming off a long time without playing.


SO what the Yankees and Boone are doing with Stanton and Judge is not wise looks like, and also may take them longer than necessary to get going. I just wonder why Boone and the Yankees are so insistent about resting these guys. I also think that it leads to a lot of these injuries that haunt the Yankees. We will see what happens with Judge and Stanton with this play a day rest a day play two days rest a day etc. I think it is foolish. Apparently I am not the only one how do you feel about that?



i know i don't have a degree in medicine or physical therapy, how bout you ...


i'm not definitely not a fan of all the "resting" that goes on with this team. however in this case, with these china doll-like players returning from the IL, maybe, just maybe a little caution is necessary. we've seen what happened with judge. he didn't even wanna go on the IL. they put him on anyway. first game back, WHAM reinjured and misses even more time. gleyber, out 2 weeks, comes back, WHAM now he's retweeked his hammy. don't even wanna think about stanton.


so their plan is play a game, take the next day off to see how the player responds and build up cautiously. again i'm not medical person but my sense is that these injuries may not be 100% healed but the player is willing to come back and play. maybe boone's just protecting the players from themselves. they'd rather not lose them again with the post-season beginning in 12 days. and yeah getting ABs is important but given the situation they feel there's enough games for them to get their ABs and still be cautious. it's not really "resting."




If the clock were not ticking both Judge and Stanton would probably still be at the alternate site. They're basically still rehabbing here so they can get in some games against ML pitching. It's not that complicated... like you said Bumper, none of us are doctors or trainers. I trust Boone and his staff are doing what they think is best. 

4 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2020 - 11:47AM #16
GottaGoToMo
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Sep 17, 2020 -- 11:13AM, Rob wrote:


Sep 17, 2020 -- 10:44AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Hard to believe that those 3 homers were flukes ... I think Higgy might have stumbled onto something ... the Yankees need to give him a chance to find out if he did.




Almost a certainty that Higgy sits tonight, Judge as well.  Unless Boone is "resting" guys coming off the IL after one game on orders from higher up it is just stupid.  If they want Stanton and Judsge to be factors in the post season both need to get as many ABs as possible. 


For me, again, unless it is on ordsers from higher up, the resting BS is reason enough to let Boone go at the end of the season unless they win the WS.




I believe the resting is coming from the analytics department that the Yankees have.  I think it's almost a certainty that they will re-sign Boone ... he goes along with the analytics that they want.

4 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2020 - 11:50AM #17
crazyYankeefan
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That's two straight Cole's starts Higgy had homered. Maybe this will turn into a norm? That would be nice.

4 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2020 - 12:46PM #18
chl45
Posts: 2,634

Sep 17, 2020 -- 11:23AM, bumper wrote:


Sep 17, 2020 -- 10:31AM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 11:52PM, bumper wrote:


Sep 16, 2020 -- 11:43PM, chl45 wrote:


The Yankees are commited to him bumper, and the line up we had tonight adding Stanton and Torres to it is lethal for sure. Gary actually has this rep for needing a shove once in awhile from what I read about his mis steps in the minors and of course what happened when Girardi was here with him. That said, and shove aside, he just about got pushed off a cliff tonight with the display by Higgy.lol.. I think that if they give Higgy a few more starts while he is locked in like he is, it may show Higgy just had a good night or he actually has some pop which was the rep on him in the minors that he had HR power at times. SO.. just maybe that will tell the tale on if Higgy has the stuff, and if he does, just how committed are the Yankees to Gary, and it could also get Gary going as well. It will be interesting to see who catches Cole again at least. I think they should start Higgy again tomorrow and sit Gary to be honest.


Sidebar: that last home run by Higgy was no joke, it was more than just a poke, it was as Major League a homerun as it gets by any home run hitter let alone one by a back up catcher, right?. Also Hampfan I agree with you on Frazier!




the first one to center wasn't too shabby either.


actually not sure how they say to higgy tomorrow, "good job kid, you're sitting today." has anyone in the history of the game ever sat the game after hitting 3. he's definitely locked in. agree, think he has to play tomorrow.




It will be interesting to say the least. Also Mark DeRosa who is a great annalist and a big Yankee fan just broke down Judges at bat's yesterday and pointed out something he was doing. While doing so he said that Judge and any player coming back off the IL just needs to get some AB's to get back to what they were doing before going on the IL. DeRosa has a gig he does on that MLB Central show called deep dive where he goes into detail on guys either doing really well and are hot, or guys doing really poorly and in a cold spell and can't hit. He is really good at it. So...he has the same theory any student of the game would have fan or professional and that is GUYS NEED AB's to get into a groove or to hit like they are capable of. They don't need rest coming off a long time without playing.


SO what the Yankees and Boone are doing with Stanton and Judge is not wise looks like, and also may take them longer than necessary to get going. I just wonder why Boone and the Yankees are so insistent about resting these guys. I also think that it leads to a lot of these injuries that haunt the Yankees. We will see what happens with Judge and Stanton with this play a day rest a day play two days rest a day etc. I think it is foolish. Apparently I am not the only one how do you feel about that?



i know i don't have a degree in medicine or physical therapy, how bout you ...


i'm not definitely not a fan of all the "resting" that goes on with this team. however in this case, with these china doll-like players returning from the IL, maybe, just maybe a little caution is necessary. we've seen what happened with judge. he didn't even wanna go on the IL. they put him on anyway. first game back, WHAM reinjured and misses even more time. gleyber, out 2 weeks, comes back, WHAM now he's retweeked his hammy. don't even wanna think about stanton.


so their plan is play a game, take the next day off to see how the player responds and build up cautiously. again i'm not medical person but my sense is that these injuries may not be 100% healed but the player is willing to come back and play. maybe boone's just protecting the players from themselves. they'd rather not lose them again with the post-season beginning in 12 days. and yeah getting ABs is important but given the situation they feel there's enough games for them to get their ABs and still be cautious. it's not really "resting."




I agree about the medical reasons you talked about and I certainly don't have any idea about medicine or Doctor business, if I did I would heal my own issues.Wink What you say does make sense but I only know what I know from playing and watching the game and that is more at bats get you tuned up and ready to hit if you have that hitting gene and most MLB hitters have that or they wouldn't be hitters in the Majors. SO going for the playoffs with guys that are "rehabbing" taking AB's they should be taking at the minor league complexes if they were up and running, is not possible I get that also.


It is a tough situation but then maybe them using the word resting is what is misleading. They are rehabbing on the job is the truth so they should say that and they tried in that Daily News article but it sounded even dumber in that article. I sure don't have the answer so I guess I will just buckle up cause it will be a bumpy ride going to the playoffs with big hitters learning on the job I suppose. Although last night sure was fun to watch. Hopefully they keep a hot Higgy in the lineup. We will see soon enough.

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4 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2020 - 1:54PM #19
mic4life
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He missed a 4 homer gameby about 15-20 feet.

4 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2020 - 2:11PM #20
newinn
Posts: 36,412

Higgy might become Coles personal catcher. He will not become the Yankees starting catcher. Great game last night but it was one game last night.

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