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Why I wish Obama was never elected
1 month ago  ::  Sep 21, 2020 - 9:11AM #1
newinn
Posts: 35,943

Being a business man, I always tried to determine how a decision I made today not only impact today but how it would impact the future.



I think Obama was a very good President, perhaps one of the best of my lifetime and I was proud of my and my entire families support of him. 



I believed the country was ready for a black President and celebrated that fact more then the fact that Obama was the african american that was chosen. What I didn't anticipate was the length that rich white, despicable, immoral men would go in order to maintain their unchallenged authority and control over our country. I didn't anticipate how they would appeal to the worst instincts, the racial instincts and the hate that lies in mens hearts.



When this new SC justice is installed the will of the people will mean nothing regardless of any progressive that wins an election. As long as there is one new age Republican alive, every progressive thought or idea will wind up being goverened by a loaded Supreme Court. After 3 years of this arseholes Presidency, I didn't think it could get worse. With the passing of RBG, it just did.


Knowing what I know now, I would never have supported the election of Obama. I was so wrong, the country was not ready for him and we will suffer the consequenses for decades. I am in mourning for our country


1 month ago  ::  Sep 21, 2020 - 9:18AM #2
bertram
Posts: 13,941

The election of Obama brought the racist ca-ca-roaches out of the woodwork.  But then, any attempts by Black people in this country to rise above their designated spot at the bottom of the societal heap have historically elicited such responses.  There should be no regrets about Obama's election, except that we should have elected a Black person earlier.  

1 month ago  ::  Sep 21, 2020 - 9:24AM #3
bertram
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Does anybody here believe that had a White president been in office from 2009 to 2013 McConnell wouldn't have squelched the vote on Garland?

1 month ago  ::  Sep 21, 2020 - 9:25AM #4
newinn
Posts: 35,943

Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:18AM, bertram wrote:


The election of Obama brought the racist ca-ca-roaches out of the woodwork.  But then, any attempts by Black people in this country to rise above their designated spot at the bottom of the societal heap have historically elicited such responses.  There should be no regrets about Obama's election, except that we should have elected a Black person earlier.  




I'm really pretty much finished posting down here so I will not go back and forth on this. I'll continue to read here like I read those idiots on jimmy's board. 


When the country as a whole is not ready for change, like democratic socialism, the response by THOSE IN POWER will win out. That's why I believe we need to move slowly with transformative policy. Those ideas must be sold not jammed down peoples throats. I'm out

1 month ago  ::  Sep 21, 2020 - 9:27AM #5
newinn
Posts: 35,943

Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:24AM, bertram wrote:


Does anybody here believe that had a White president been in office from 2009 to 2013 McConnell wouldn't have squelched the vote on Garland?




One more and then I'm out. He might have had much less support of the people had he tried and trying it might have cost Trump the election. Besides you missed my point entirely. It wasn't just about the SC. 

1 month ago  ::  Sep 21, 2020 - 9:29AM #6
bertram
Posts: 13,941

Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:25AM, newinn wrote:


Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:18AM, bertram wrote:


The election of Obama brought the racist ca-ca-roaches out of the woodwork.  But then, any attempts by Black people in this country to rise above their designated spot at the bottom of the societal heap have historically elicited such responses.  There should be no regrets about Obama's election, except that we should have elected a Black person earlier.  




I'm really pretty much finished posting down here so I will not go back and forth on this. I'll continue to read here like I read those idiots on jimmy's board. 


When the country as a whole is not ready for change, like democratic socialism, the response by THOSE IN POWER will win out. That's why I believe we need to move slowly with transformative policy. Those ideas must be sold not jammed down peoples throats. I'm out




You got your wish when Biden won the nomination.  The Dems could have supported Bernie instead.  Quit your whining.  We have simply put off the inevitable swing that will finally start honoring the majority instead of the minority that is governing us right now.  In the meantime, the country's problems go unaddressed as the can is again kicked down the road.

1 month ago  ::  Sep 21, 2020 - 9:30AM #7
newinn
Posts: 35,943

Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:29AM, bertram wrote:


Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:25AM, newinn wrote:


Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:18AM, bertram wrote:


The election of Obama brought the racist ca-ca-roaches out of the woodwork.  But then, any attempts by Black people in this country to rise above their designated spot at the bottom of the societal heap have historically elicited such responses.  There should be no regrets about Obama's election, except that we should have elected a Black person earlier.  




I'm really pretty much finished posting down here so I will not go back and forth on this. I'll continue to read here like I read those idiots on jimmy's board. 


When the country as a whole is not ready for change, like democratic socialism, the response by THOSE IN POWER will win out. That's why I believe we need to move slowly with transformative policy. Those ideas must be sold not jammed down peoples throats. I'm out




You got your wish when Biden won the nomination.  The Dems could have supported Bernie instead.  Quit your whining.  We have simply put off the inevitable swing that will finally start honoring the majority instead of the minority that is governing us right now.  In the meantime, the country's problems go unaddressed as the can is again kicked down the road.




you're as big of a ****bag as Judge. Whine on this

1 month ago  ::  Sep 21, 2020 - 9:34AM #8
Judge
Posts: 5,163

Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:30AM, newinn wrote:


Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:29AM, bertram wrote:


Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:25AM, newinn wrote:


Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:18AM, bertram wrote:


The election of Obama brought the racist ca-ca-roaches out of the woodwork.  But then, any attempts by Black people in this country to rise above their designated spot at the bottom of the societal heap have historically elicited such responses.  There should be no regrets about Obama's election, except that we should have elected a Black person earlier.  




I'm really pretty much finished posting down here so I will not go back and forth on this. I'll continue to read here like I read those idiots on jimmy's board. 


When the country as a whole is not ready for change, like democratic socialism, the response by THOSE IN POWER will win out. That's why I believe we need to move slowly with transformative policy. Those ideas must be sold not jammed down peoples throats. I'm out




You got your wish when Biden won the nomination.  The Dems could have supported Bernie instead.  Quit your whining.  We have simply put off the inevitable swing that will finally start honoring the majority instead of the minority that is governing us right now.  In the meantime, the country's problems go unaddressed as the can is again kicked down the road.




you're as big of a ****bag as Judge. Whine on this




Settle down, it'll be OK.


And we're not ready for "Democratic Socialism" because it would be an unmitigated disaster.   Those with the wisdom to see that will protect the nation from it, fear not.

1 month ago  ::  Sep 21, 2020 - 9:34AM #9
bertram
Posts: 13,941

Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:30AM, newinn wrote:


Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:29AM, bertram wrote:


Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:25AM, newinn wrote:


Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:18AM, bertram wrote:


The election of Obama brought the racist ca-ca-roaches out of the woodwork.  But then, any attempts by Black people in this country to rise above their designated spot at the bottom of the societal heap have historically elicited such responses.  There should be no regrets about Obama's election, except that we should have elected a Black person earlier.  




I'm really pretty much finished posting down here so I will not go back and forth on this. I'll continue to read here like I read those idiots on jimmy's board. 


When the country as a whole is not ready for change, like democratic socialism, the response by THOSE IN POWER will win out. That's why I believe we need to move slowly with transformative policy. Those ideas must be sold not jammed down peoples throats. I'm out




You got your wish when Biden won the nomination.  The Dems could have supported Bernie instead.  Quit your whining.  We have simply put off the inevitable swing that will finally start honoring the majority instead of the minority that is governing us right now.  In the meantime, the country's problems go unaddressed as the can is again kicked down the road.




you're as big of a ****bag as Judge. Whine on this




No, we don't agree on many policies, but at least I don't regret the progress we have made on racial equality and civil rights just because the racists are playing dirty.  They have always played dirty.  Maybe this November, in spite of the pandemic, we can get more than 60% of Americans to the polls.  That is what it is gonna take to bring about change...not marching to the rear and nominating only White folks.

1 month ago  ::  Sep 21, 2020 - 9:46AM #10
SSBob
Posts: 6,132

Sep 21, 2020 -- 9:11AM, newinn wrote:




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Excellent post New. I follow your logic...there have been many times over the past 4 years I’ve wished Romney had defeated Obama in '12.


As I’ve said, if Trump is re-elected and the Republicans hold on to the Senate, with Bill Barr as AG and a stacked SCOTUS, all checks and balances are lost. It’s not hyperbole to say we’re very much in danger of losing our democracy.


Truth is, short of realizing his goal of destroying Medicare and Social Security, whatever might happen in a 2nd Trump Administration would have very little effect on me personally. And for that I’m very thankful to be in my “golden years”.


But, it will be very sad to watch this country circle the drain during those years and wonder what, if anything at all, my kids and grandkids will be left with.


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