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Expectations and disappointment
2 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2020 - 11:49AM #1
chl45
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I would say that because fans were so excited for the 2020 season to begin, Yankee fans, myself included had high expectations. Then the start the Yankees had out of the gate made the expectations even higher. We finally would have real Yankee baseball. They played like champs and were winning.


Our team was healthy, loaded with talent and last years display by our hitters and pitchers and adding a true ace to our pitching staff made our expectations soar as we saw their 2020 start.  Slowly they digressed. Watching them play like they are now,  these last few games, have some fans, me included, watch our expectations turn to disappointment because it looks like there is no reason for this type of crash and collapse. Rationally this should not be happening, but it is. The talent and their Health is the same as when they were winning.. What is the reason?  Hitters not hitting, defense is sloppy, and overall the energy they had is gone.


Our pen is not what it was and overall the team looks stale at the wrong time. Why no one really knows, we have ideas that is it. It could turn around. Now we wait and we see what the playoffs actually do to the team. It could energize them and that is what we all are hoping will happen. That is our next expectation. I just want to add that it is not very comforting to anyone to hear the manager say "we are better than this" over and over. Everyone knows that. Who's job is it to fix it and who or what let it happen or how did it, is what we expect to hear and see. If not, there is always next year with hopefully the team having a different approach to winning. 

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
2 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2020 - 1:43PM #2
bumper
Posts: 8,115

i don't obsess about it. take each game one at a time. sure we've hit another rough patch but instead of saying we're 1-4 over the last 5, how 'bout we're 11-4 over the last 15 games.


wanna talk about a team that limped into the post-season. how bout 2000, when we finished on a mighty 3-15 run to close the season and a mediocre 87-74. pretty bleak. i think things turned out pretty well.


how 'bout the 1960 world series where we had 3 blowouts against the pirates. they didn't belong on the same field as us. yet somehow they won. and let's not talk about what happened in 2004 ...


this is a very talented team that was built to win a WS championship but have significantly underperformed. don't understand the why's and they don't really matter. i still believe IF everyone performs up to their capabilities, we can win this thing. history's taught us that baseball is a quirky sport where a team's fortunes can turn on a dime. we'll know the answer next week.

2 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2020 - 1:43PM #3
Lola
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Buckle up cupcake... and make me a sandwich!
2 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2020 - 1:45PM #4
bumper
Posts: 8,115

Sep 25, 2020 -- 1:43PM, Lola wrote:

Buckle up cupcake... and make me a sandwich!



yup goin' on the ride wherever it takes us ...

2 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2020 - 1:54PM #5
nyyrocks84
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The Yanks have played great baseball this year....when they had to. That 10 game winning streak was impressive....remember when we were doubting if they would make the postseason at all? 


There is definitely some value in getting home field for the wild card round, but if they advance from that everything will be in a bubble (i.e. on the road) anyway. So they need to get through these road woes one way or another. 


Bottom line is - the first two rounds will be a complete c*apshoot. I honestly don't care who we play, because every team in the AL is compable of winning a short series like that. Right now, the Rays (#1 seed) and Jays (#8 seed) would face off....Toronto could absolutely win that series. The Dodgers could absolutely be upset by the Giants/Reds/Phillies. If the Yanks get eliminated early, it will be disappointing for sure, but should it be treated as some huge disaster?

2 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2020 - 2:05PM #6
chl45
Posts: 2,564

Sep 25, 2020 -- 1:43PM, bumper wrote:


i don't obsess about it. take each game one at a time. sure we've hit another rough patch but instead of saying we're 1-4 over the last 5, how 'bout we're 11-4 over the last 15 games.


wanna talk about a team that limped into the post-season. how bout 2000, when we finished on a mighty 3-15 run to close the season and a mediocre 87-74. pretty bleak. i think things turned out pretty well.


how 'bout the 1960 world series where we had 3 blowouts against the pirates. they didn't belong on the same field as us. yet somehow they won. and let's not talk about what happened in 2004 ...


this is a very talented team that was built to win a WS championship but have significantly underperformed. don't understand the why's and they don't really matter. i still believe IF everyone performs up to their capabilities, we can win this thing. history's taught us that baseball is a quirky sport where a team's fortunes can turn on a dime. we'll know the answer next week.




I been there for all of that you mention in your post. I agree anything can happen but to say it doesn't matter about the why's well it will matter IMO if they lose the first round won't it? I mean slumps by an entire team are rare. Especially one built like the Yankees. WHen every aspect of the game, including running the bases is in the dumper all at once that is a little concerning to me. We have had many teams that the pitching carried, or the offense or even the defense, but right now the rarity of the entire team has me stumped as fast as it seems to have happened. I also am here for all of it. Should be interesting to watch these next 3 games for sure to see if it starts to come together. Like Yogi said it's getting late early...Would love a 3 game sweep.

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
2 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2020 - 2:05PM #7
Cocopugg
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Sep 25, 2020 -- 1:54PM, nyyrocks84 wrote:


The Dodgers could absolutely be upset by the Giants/Reds/Phillies.




If anyone other than the Dodgers win it all this year, I would be totally shocked.

2 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2020 - 2:06PM #8
SSBob
Posts: 6,514

I've viewed this year as somewhere between Spring Training & Regular Season ball.


I always have the game on, but not glued to the tv as I would be during the "regular" season. Don't get too excited or upset with a win or a loss. I kinda see it as an audition of sorts for the borderline players and sorting things out for '21.

2 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2020 - 2:12PM #9
chl45
Posts: 2,564

Sep 25, 2020 -- 2:06PM, SSBob wrote:


I've viewed this year as somewhere between Spring Training & Regular Season ball.


I always have the game on, but not glued to the tv as I would be during the "regular" season. Don't get too excited or upset with a win or a loss. I kinda see it as an audition of sorts for the borderline players and sorting things out for '21.




Actually that's probably a good way to look at it, but I still would like to go all the way. If not I definately will look at it the way you just described it.  In doing that I expect that Mr. Frazier will be here for a long time. I guess the Ford is going back to the garage where he came from for hopefully a good tune up  becauseI think that Ford has a lot of power that can be usseful if they can get it running again. We will see.

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
2 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2020 - 2:31PM #10
bumper
Posts: 8,115

Sep 25, 2020 -- 2:12PM, chl45 wrote:


Sep 25, 2020 -- 2:06PM, SSBob wrote:


I've viewed this year as somewhere between Spring Training & Regular Season ball.


I always have the game on, but not glued to the tv as I would be during the "regular" season. Don't get too excited or upset with a win or a loss. I kinda see it as an audition of sorts for the borderline players and sorting things out for '21.




Actually that's probably a good way to look at it, but I still would like to go all the way. If not I definately will look at it the way you just described it.  In doing that I expect that Mr. Frazier will be here for a long time. I guess the Ford is going back to the garage where he came from for hopefully a good tune up  becauseI think that Ford has a lot of power that can be usseful if they can get it running again. We will see.



i like ford and agree think they should try to see if they have a productive player there either for this team or to trade. not knocking you but here we are trying to save ford  - a guy who has a career 250 AB and 14 HR, yet there are so many on this forum who are willing to toss into the dumpster, guys like stanton 5000 AB and 312 HR & sanchez 1500 AB and 115 HR. players who have made an impact and have track records. 




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