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Covid-19 Relief Bill
2 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2021 - 8:23AM #1
bertram
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The House is poised to pass the bill tomorrow.  Yesterday's polling showed that 76% of Americans are in favor of the bill, including 60% of Republicans.  Yet today we see Congressional Republicans deadset against it in yet another attempt at obstructing the will of the majority of Americans.  How much longer do we need to put up with this?  It's long past time to drop the GOP like a bad habit.
2 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2021 - 2:35PM #2
NW
Posts: 2,831

Republicans want a relief bill.  They don't want a bridge in New York or an underground rail system in Northern California.  They don't want $120B in school aid when only $6B of the $150B they got the first time was actually used.  You won't find me opposing any actual COVID relief, but get a bill that's actually for relief.  We're already going to be looking at inflation and interest rates in the double digits once the cap comes off of them; we don't need to print any more money than is necessary for actual relief.

2 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2021 - 3:37PM #3
NY23
Posts: 13,805

The plutocratic socialists of the GOP only want COVID relief if it benefits the rich, not the middle class and the poor.

2 months ago  ::  Feb 25, 2021 - 11:11PM #4
yankoldfan
Posts: 10,990

Feb 25, 2021 -- 2:35PM, NW wrote:


Republicans want a relief bill.  They don't want a bridge in New York or an underground rail system in Northern California.  They don't want $120B in school aid when only $6B of the $150B they got the first time was actually used.  You won't find me opposing any actual COVID relief, but get a bill that's actually for relief.  We're already going to be looking at inflation and interest rates in the double digits once the cap comes off of them; we don't need to print any more money than is necessary for actual relief.




They've used the $15. an hour minimum wage as a hangup, understand the Senate has possibly dropped that, but I'll bet that ain't enough for the lying (R)'s...They'll find some other reason to go against anything Biden wants...

2 months ago  ::  Feb 26, 2021 - 10:06AM #5
bertram
Posts: 14,730

Feb 25, 2021 -- 11:11PM, yankoldfan wrote:


Feb 25, 2021 -- 2:35PM, NW wrote:


Republicans want a relief bill.  They don't want a bridge in New York or an underground rail system in Northern California.  They don't want $120B in school aid when only $6B of the $150B they got the first time was actually used.  You won't find me opposing any actual COVID relief, but get a bill that's actually for relief.  We're already going to be looking at inflation and interest rates in the double digits once the cap comes off of them; we don't need to print any more money than is necessary for actual relief.




They've used the $15. an hour minimum wage as a hangup, understand the Senate has possibly dropped that, but I'll bet that ain't enough for the lying (R)'s...They'll find some other reason to go against anything Biden wants...




You and NY are tellin' it like it is...

2 months ago  ::  Feb 26, 2021 - 6:07PM #6
bertram
Posts: 14,730

Supposedly, the House is still on track to pass the Covid-19 relief bill tonight.

2 months ago  ::  Feb 26, 2021 - 6:20PM #7
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 81,570

Feb 26, 2021 -- 6:07PM, bertram wrote:


Supposedly, the House is still on track to pass the Covid-19 relief bill tonight.




Praying this package makes it all the way through.

2 months ago  ::  Feb 27, 2021 - 9:01AM #8
bertram
Posts: 14,730

Feb 26, 2021 -- 6:20PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Feb 26, 2021 -- 6:07PM, bertram wrote:


Supposedly, the House is still on track to pass the Covid-19 relief bill tonight.




Praying this package makes it all the way through.




Nancy and the Dems got 'er done in the House!  Finally, the focus of legislation is moving from the few to the many.  As we will see in the coming months, the gulf between the philosophies of the two political parties is wide indeed.

2 months ago  ::  Feb 27, 2021 - 10:10AM #9
GottaGoToMo
Posts: 81,570

Feb 27, 2021 -- 9:01AM, bertram wrote:


Feb 26, 2021 -- 6:20PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Feb 26, 2021 -- 6:07PM, bertram wrote:


Supposedly, the House is still on track to pass the Covid-19 relief bill tonight.




Praying this package makes it all the way through.




Nancy and the Dems got 'er done in the House!  Finally, the focus of legislation is moving from the few to the many.  As we will see in the coming months, the gulf between the philosophies of the two political parties is wide indeed.




But the Senators have to get it through and then Nancy will have to get it through again without the minimum wage ... still two battles to win.

2 months ago  ::  Feb 27, 2021 - 4:29PM #10
NW
Posts: 2,831

Feb 27, 2021 -- 10:10AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Feb 27, 2021 -- 9:01AM, bertram wrote:


Feb 26, 2021 -- 6:20PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Feb 26, 2021 -- 6:07PM, bertram wrote:


Supposedly, the House is still on track to pass the Covid-19 relief bill tonight.




Praying this package makes it all the way through.




Nancy and the Dems got 'er done in the House!  Finally, the focus of legislation is moving from the few to the many.  As we will see in the coming months, the gulf between the philosophies of the two political parties is wide indeed.




But the Senators have to get it through and then Nancy will have to get it through again without the minimum wage ... still two battles to win.




The Senate will not have the votes to pass the bill without the minimum wage as 2 Democratic senators have said they will not vote for the bill against the advice of the parliamentarian and others, while not pleding their vote, have said that they would take the parliamentarian's ruling into account before voting.


This whole process with the "COVID relief" bill has been quite confusing to me.  I fail to understand why legislators would want to tie a provision that would cost millions of jobs (per the nonpartisan CBO) to a bill that is supposedly designed to stimulate the economy.  I am a supporter of increasing the minimum wage and in the future tying its adjustment to economic indicators but attaching it to this "relief" bill is both dumb and counterproductive.


What I would like to see from the Democrats and Republicans in the Senate is for them to sit down and look at the bill passed by the House and actually read what's in it.  Let's leave in everything that is actually COVID relief but take out some of the non-relief related funding.  There's no reason a pandemic relief bill should be funding a rail system in Northern California.  There's no reason it should be spending $350 billion to bail out states ($300B to blue states).  The state and local government funding should be for debt incurred due to COVID, not a "get out of debt free" card to a state like NY that was $6B in debt before anyone even coughed from COVID because of its "progressive" agenda.  If schools need money to open, let them use the funding that was already passed for them before passing an additional $170B to keep the teacher's unions happy with money that isn't even slated to be spent to relieve the pandemic.  We should absolutely be funding Americans in need, small businesses, vaccine production, and aid to states to pay for pandemic related issues.


The interesting thing that shows the progressives' true colors is their response to the Senate parliamentarian's ruling.  Instead of trying to work within the framework of the parliamentarian that knows the rules of the Senate better than any of them, pushing to change the Senate rules, or even encouraging the VP to overrule the ruling, they are calling for the parliamentarian to be fired.  A nonpartisan government employee being called on to be fired because they made an opinion the progressives didn't like.  This is cancel culture to the greatest extent.  If your opinion disagrees with ours, we are just going to cancel you.




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