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cashman time
15 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2006 - 2:38PM #1
yankeefan7
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it looks like we will lose out on lilly meche hudson.its pettitte or a big trade its up to cahman
15 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2006 - 2:40PM #2
MyYESNetwork
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thats should make alot of people happy , noone really wanted any of them.


i am only dissapointed in not getting lilly

15 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2006 - 2:42PM #3
Sorianodude12
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We have our 4 and 5 spots in the rotation set and all those guys you mentioned can't handle being a front of the rotation starter. We need to get a #2 or 3 starter to balance out the front and give us quality innings. Cashman knows what he's gonna do and he always keeps quiet when making a big deal. I'd like to see him bring in Clemens for 1 more year but he may be looking at other teams for trade bait but I can feel that something big is gonna happen.
15 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2006 - 2:44PM #4
REGGIE44
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I know,lilly had good numbers against the sox,i just dont know why they are spending the money on a guy that has no track record here. I hate to say it but it sounds to me that the signing of the japanese pitcher was for business reasons only.
15 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2006 - 2:46PM #5
MyYESNetwork
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dude let the guy pitch a few games before giving up on him.


i dont think he will be that bad imo.

15 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2006 - 5:34PM #6
MyYESNetwork
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You know, all of this is really depressing. Now, the Yankees
aren't going to pursue Lilly because "he costs too much" and because
they will sign this half-rate Japanese pitcher. Give me a
break.



What happened to the Yanks of old? Remember them? I mean..
all I read now is how this guy is "too rich for the Yankees' blood" or
"that guy doesn't make financial sense to the Yankees", or "the Yankees
don't wish to spend that much money on an ace pitcher this offseason",
ETC ETC ETC. But.. yet, we are serious about winning a
Championship in 2007?



We are letting guys drop off like flies, and we are doing nothing, and
WHY? Because Cashman is reducing payroll and we can't "afford"
them. OMG. I understand the wish to reduce payroll, but as
high as ours had gotten, you can't expect to do that overnight, and
yet.. GEORGE S. wants (demands) a championship? The two equations
don't add up. You can't start significanlty reducing payroll, not
spending to get great pitching, and yet say, "We're going after
#27". No we're not. We've become a team who is building for
the future, and betting on the come, but that just doesn't get it done
most times. You have to balance building for the future with
winning NOW. This is just sad. I don't know what Cashman is
doing, but so far we haven't added ANY pitching depth, and YES, we need
it badly. We only have two guys we can even count on.
RJ, Pavano and this new guy Igawa are question marks, and two of them
are HUGE question marks. We can't effectively compete with 2
known pitching entities and a bunch of young prospects. Prospects
are just that... HOPES for the future. Some times it turns out
great, and sometimes NOT.




15 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2006 - 5:53PM #7
fromer
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gee, spoiled a bit?
15 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2006 - 5:54PM #8
5743vja1
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Fans are so spoiled and have no patience at all. We can win with what we have and did well enough last year with these same pitchers. You don't need Zito or Lilly to win as I've said all along. frown


Just because we lost in the playoffs doesn't mean we have a bad team. We'll be fine.

15 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2006 - 6:03PM #9
27TimeWorldChamp
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Yeah, it looks like your right there, yankee7 IMO look for Brian to be talking with the Colorado Rockies this week at the winter meetings... It seems the Rockies are having a hard time signing SP J Jennings to an extension, so a 1 for 1 swap could be in the cards for Carl Pavano...
15 years ago  ::  Dec 02, 2006 - 6:09PM #10
MyYESNetwork
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Really? We can do alright with this rotation? "Same as last year"? What don't you understand here?



You guys are acting like we're operating in a SILO here. The
reality is this: We are standing still, while other teams in OUR
DIVISION are bolstering their rotations. Don't you get it?
We are standing still in this foot race while others are striding
forward. Therefore, we're behind already.



We CAN'T GO with what we have. We we have is mediocre in this
competition. The Red Sox have improved their rotation
greatly. The Blue Jays are improving, as they are making some
moves. We will likely lose the division. So.. what about
the Wild Card? What about the White Sox and Tigers? They
have better rotations right now than we do.



You guys are acting as if we have the same rotation and that that's
good enough. First of all, we DON'T HAVE THE SAME rotation.
Jaret.. GONE. And, we don't know ANYTHING about his replacement,
Mr. Igawa. He's an UNKNOWN and is a mediocre pitcher (#4 or
#5 guy. Secondly, RJ is coming off of BACK SURGERY at 43 years of
age. How will that play out? We DON"T KNOW!! It
usually doesn't play out well, and the older one is, the worse it
is. Carl Pavano? Please.. missing in action and likely
still will be. You know he's a joke. The Yankee teammates
think he's making up stories to stay out of the pitching
rotation. After that, we only have PROSPECTS. That's not
enough to go to war with. Not when the others with whom you
compete will have significantly better and more proven rotations than
we have! We have better offense, but that's about it.



Pitching wins championships. Not offense, as was proven to us
last year. So, you think we can beat the Red Sox, the Jays, the
Tigers, the White Sox, (if we are even in the hunt for a Wild Card),
with "what we have"? That's a complete joke, UNLESS EVERY
"HOPEFUL" we have (Pavano.. MIA, RJ.. coming off of significant back
surgery and 43 years old, and a bunch of UNPROVEN prospects) ALL TURN
OUT to be fantastic. PLEEEEEEEEEZ. We need another front of
the rotation guy. PERIOD.

We are not standing still on an island is this footrace. Quit acting like that's the case.
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