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11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 12:38PM #51
laurenfrances
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Nov 10, 2011 -- 11:08AM, JT wrote:


For those who havent read it, and are interested in reading it, here is the 23 page Grand Jury Report. Reader's discretion advised as it gets quite detailed.

cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/s...




Thanks for the link, I'm sure to read it.

11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 12:40PM #52
yank0428
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Nov 10, 2011 -- 11:34AM, JT wrote:


Nov 10, 2011 -- 11:22AM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 10, 2011 -- 11:08AM, JT wrote:


For those who havent read it, and are interested in reading it, here is the 23 page Grand Jury Report. Reader's discretion advised as it gets quite detailed.

cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/s...





Thanks for posting that. I have held off reading it. No sure I want to. I'm curious about this DA that just vanished. I wonder if the thought was that he faked his death or was knocked off. 





Its quite an interesting situation with the DA disappearance. The DA's brother had commited suicided years ealier by jumping off a bridge into a river. The brother went missing, his car was found near a river and then his body was found days later in the river.

Why would the DA, prior to disappearing, search on his home computer how to destroy a harddrive and a laptop? Then after he disappears his laptop is found a river without the harddrive, but then 2 months later the harddrive is found in the same river only 100 yards away from where the laptop was found.

Also, apparenly over the previous 2 1/2 years prior to his disappearance, he withdrew appx $16,000 in cash from ATM's and was said to have been setting it aside for the future...although bank documents show that he already had over $100,000 in his saving account.

It sounds more like a staged death than an actual suicide or a homicide. No body has ever been found and there have been reported sightings of the DA over the years - none though have turned up any more evidence. A lady saw a man in a restaurant that resembled the DA and took pictures with her cell phone. The pictures are quite grainy but you can make them out enough to see that the man in the cell phone pictures looks alot like the DA.

The women who took the cell phone photos and reported the sighting said that when asked about where the man was from, the hesitated and clearly looked like he had to think about his answer before giving it. Also, the man looked about the same age as the DA and had a small scar on his left cheek just as the DA does.

Here are 2 pictures. The 1st is of a side view of the DA Ray Gricar (fore ground with hand raised), the 2nd is a picture taken by the lady with her cell phone at a restaurant.








Thanks Cleese, very interesting. A lot of demons in that family. He had to do something pretty bad to go through all that if he's still alive. It sure does look like him. Pretty sharp lady.I don't notice when friends who had beards for years shave them off.

11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 12:45PM #53
BW26
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Nov 9, 2011 -- 11:48PM, YankeeLoon wrote:

Oh really? You find out a 10 year old boy is getting violently raped by your assistant coach and you've done your duty by telling the athletic director? Guess I was raised differently.




so was I .   He got  what he deserved. No one can  tell me he knew nothing. What  was this ? See no evil , hear no evil , speak no evil? Was he going around with blinders on? This man  was the fricking  kilng of the hill at Penn State. This was his domain , nothing got pass him. He even hired a homopobic female  basketball  coach who outed several of her players against the will. It  was none of her  business and she was directly the cause of  these young women getting death  threaths. And he  knew it and stood  behind her. If he can support  such disgraceful  behavior, what  else did he knew about Sandusky ?  You can't   say he knew nothing at all. If he did , he had the hammer to take this  SOB  down.


 


And what the students  did last night was disgraceful . Their only concern should be for the young  boys and nothing else. This SOB has been raping and molesting  young  boys  for  around 40 years. So he has  victums as old as in the their 40's  to  around 6.  I hope he  gets Offed in prison   by some lifer.

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11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 12:50PM #54
BW26
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Nov 10, 2011 -- 11:06AM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Paterno should not be allowed to go out on his own terms ... PA did the right thing in firing him ... shame, shame, shame ... what a horror story ... no one is above the law ... it's amazing how big of a head some of these people get.




 


 


Mo, all he cared about  was his legacy . Who cares. It's the little boys and nothing else.  , Sandusky needs to  pay and  pay good. Paterno has to know something  and that is unacceptable not to do anything  Sandusky's   wife has alot to answer for , too. How did  she not know she  was married to a pedaffile? You have to  talk to  the 7  children they adopted to see if he abused them sexually and if he did , how did she not know ?

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11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 12:52PM #55
laurenfrances
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Murti will be watching the last game with his fellow PSU alumni.....


Sweeny: Joe Had To Go



By Sweeny Murti



I will be at Beaver Stadium on Saturday.


And I am glad Joe Paterno will not.


I made plans to be at this weekend’s game against Nebraska, the last home game of the season, a while back.  A couple months ago my friends—my roommates at Penn State twenty years ago—thought it might be cool to see what many of us thought even at that time could be Joe Paterno’s last home game as Penn State head coach.  The events of the past week have changed all of that.


The details of the Jerry Sandusky scandal are horrifying.  And the actions—or more precisely the inactions—of Graham Spanier, Tim Curley, Mike McQueary and Joe Paterno are indefensible.  To think that many people knew there was a man terrorizing young boys and their only reaction was seemingly to tell him to do that stuff somewhere else…well, it’s just absurdly disgusting.


We know Sandusky faces his fate through the legal system, and it’s hard to think he will do anything less than spend the rest of his life in prison.  The other administrators will be up to their eyeballs in lawsuits and many outside observers will probably forget their names down the road.  But Paterno is the one who will wear this disgrace in public the longest.


Paterno admitted that, in hindsight, he should have done more than he did.  And he’s right.  But it wasn’t a strong enough sentiment anymore.  This wasn’t a simple error in judgment.  As we recognize the timeline of events and the numerous chances Paterno and others had to keep more boys from being abused by Sandusky, we realize this was turning a blind eye to something that had to be stopped at all costs.


Paterno, despite all the good he has done over decades as the honorable face of college athletics, did not belong on the sidelines anymore.  The distraction of having him in the building would have been too much.  If Paterno was not going to step back himself, he needed to be pushed just as the Board of Trustees pushed Wednesday night. The games, sadly, are no longer a place for him to be.


For almost half a century Penn State football games have been about the coach, about Paterno.  The games are now about the players, and these players did nothing to be punished.  They don’t deserve to play their final games under the cloud of Paterno and this ugly scandal.  The people involved in this mess should pay the price, and hopefully they all will.  But the young men that suit up in the blue and white each Saturday deserve better.


I know there are people out there of the opinion that Penn State shouldn’t even play this weekend, or that they should donate their bowl game earnings, or even forgo the bowl game altogether.  These are all ridiculous solutions to a problem that was not created by the players involved.


Sure this is all about money, but let me tell you why.  Penn State football generates tens of millions of dollars a year for the university, funds that are used to operate the rest of the school’s athletic department.  That means scholarship athletes in track, cross country, gymnastics, soccer, field hockey, and every other varsity sport rely on football to bring in money for their athletic careers and education.


Meanwhile, State College is a small town that turns into a small city on seven Saturdays a year.  To local shops, restaurants, and hotels it’s like seven Black Fridays.  To take away a home football Saturday and the business boost it brings, during already tough economic times, would hurt families that don’t deserve to be hurt by this.


The players themselves have futures of their own.  They deserve the chance to move on, to finish what they started this year.  Punish the men in the suits, the men in leadership positions that failed to lead when it counted most.  But don’t punish the young men who are trying to represent themselves and their school in an honorable way.  I know it might be decades before honor can be brought back to Penn State, but the kids in uniform deserve their chance to begin the healing.


But Joe Paterno should not be there, on the sidelines or in the booth.  And now it is official that he will not.  He did a lot of good for a lot of young men and women over the years.  And that’s a fact that is lost for now, but will be remembered again at another point in time.   But now it was time to walk away, and if he wasn’t going to do it on his own then forcing him was the right move.


Where does he go?  That’s a great question.  Paterno still lives within walking distance of the Penn State campus.  It’s not like he packs his bags and drives home to some far away place.  He is being exiled in a place that’s been his home since the Eisenhower administration.  It’s a unique twist in a very sad case.


I will be there with my friends this weekend.  For us it’s like getting together with family.  We have no idea what the atmosphere will be like.  We just know that it is not the same as it used to be, and it will never be the same again.


But that’s nothing compared to the lives of the real families who were affected by this tragic series of events in the first place.

11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 12:54PM #56
JT
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Nov 10, 2011 -- 12:38PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Nov 10, 2011 -- 11:08AM, JT wrote:


For those who havent read it, and are interested in reading it, here is the 23 page Grand Jury Report. Reader's discretion advised as it gets quite detailed.

cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/s...




Thanks for the link, I'm sure to read it.






Once you read it, it starts to seem clear that this pretty much has been a big disturbing cover up from the beginning.

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11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 1:16PM #57
JT
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This just gets more and more sick & twisted by the minute...




REPORT: Sandusky "Pimped Out" Boys To Rich Penn State Donors


Sandusky Agreed To Retire In 1999 In Exchange For Penn State Cover Up




Sportswriter Mark Madden went on WEEI in Boston and reported a rumor that alleged child molester Jerry Sandusky would pimp out boys to rich donors.


"There will be a shocking development from the Second Miles Foundation ... That Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors."


Madden claims it's being investigated by "two prominent columnists."


We'd say this is ridiculous, and that you should take it with a grain of salt. But Madden actually wrote about Sandusky for the Beaver County Times six months ago — long before the scandal blindsided everyone else this week.


Madden also claimed Sandusky was forced out of Penn State in 1999.


"I think you'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told he had to retire in exchange for a cover up."


Sandusky retired at 55 in 1999, a year after Pennsylvania police investigated (but did not prosecute) him for allegedly molesting a boy.








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11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 1:20PM #58
JoeGNJ
Posts: 15,926

Nov 10, 2011 -- 11:08AM, JT wrote:


For those who havent read it, and are interested in reading it, here is the 23 page Grand Jury Report. Reader's discretion advised as it gets quite detailed.

cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/s...




I'm not making ANY excuses for JoePA but, I read about as much of that GJ Indictment as I could before I couldnt take anymore, and there should be several more folks (some outside of PSU)  who should have called authorities WHEN THE INCIDENT HAPPENED, but didnt. Those folks should be held just as responsible for this as JoePA. As far as him having to live with this for the rest of his life, and that being punsihment enough, I don't quite buy that. He's lived with it for several years w/o any problem until he got caught. If nothing more than being fired by PSU is what will happen to him, he's gotten off way too easy!

JoeGNJ - 2Timothy 4:7 - Acts 20:24
11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 1:21PM #59
BW26
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Nov 10, 2011 -- 11:22AM, yank0428 wrote:


[Thanks for posting that. I have held off reading it. No sure I want to. I'm curious about this DA that just vanished. I wonder if the thought was that he faked his death or was knocked off. 




 


 


just  read it and it made me  physically ill. Sandusky needs to burn in hell

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11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 1:24PM #60
BW26
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Kim Jones is coming on Mike's show as she has been all week . She and Sweeney are  disgusted Penn Stare alumis. She  has been clearly very angry all week in her  voice.

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