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11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 1:26PM #61
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Nov 10, 2011 -- 1:24PM, BW26 wrote:

Kim Jones is coming on Mike's show as she has been all week . She and Sweeney are  disgusted Penn Stare alumis. She  has been clearly very angry all week in her  voice.

She's barely got a voice. She has a sinus infection and laryngitis

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11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 1:38PM #62
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I'm afraid to say that most of us probably believed when this story broke, it was going to get worse as the facts started to surface and more victims came forward.


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11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 2:26PM #63
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Students protesting Joe Paterno's firing...what are they teaching at these universities nowadays.

11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 3:36PM #64
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Nov 10, 2011 -- 8:08AM, NW wrote:

Nov 10, 2011 -- 7:56AM, newinn wrote:

I hope he's not indicted. He is so morally guilty and I would bet he knows it. He has had much stripped away from him already and is guilty in the court of public opinion. At 84 years old he has to live with this shame for the rest of his life. JoePa should just be allowed to go away. I know my opinion is not a popular one but I can't help feeling this way

I didn't say he should be, I said he could be indicted.  Personally, I think he did make an effort but didn't do all that he could have or should have.  When judging Paterno, we need to look at the entire picture.  Yes, he screwed up and badly but letting this continue under his watch BUT also think about the thousands of young minds that he's helped mold into outstaning citizens.

  Look at the outstanding citizens he molded rolling over vans last night.  Paterno created a cult.    Have you ever been to penn state?  I live near there and I go there several yimes a year with special olympics teams I coach.  I know hundreds of people there and many of them will tell you the mentallity of the "penn staters" is totally insane and that Joe being some sweet old man and great guy is total garbage. 

 There is an iron curtain in penn state for a reason because Paterno didnt want anyone to see what was really inside penn state.  If everything was so wholesome why are practices closed why is the media controlled and censored there.  Why does he have a reputation of being grumpy and flat out mean to students especially those who dont look like he makes his football team look.  He is known to be a sexist uses terms like "broads" and dismissing things women say.  

  He was a decent football coach and cult leader who was a controll freak,  his image was the most important thing to him and he wasnt concerned with the truth in the least.   He only cared that people thought he was some great man.  He always made sure anything he did charity wise was highly public.   He never took responsibilty for anything he did wrong before any of this and that continues now.  He didnt care one bit about kids being raped in his showers he was only worried about people finding out.

  While speaking to the fools on his lawn the other night he said " say a prayer for the victims or WHATEVER THEY WANT TO SAY" and ïts a tough life when people do certain things to you" then he paused for no longer than a half second and said "ANYWAY you guys are great, everything is great"  thats how much he was concerned about the kids that were cultivated for sandusky to abuse through the name of penn state.

     He will never get prosecuted because of politicians afraid of losing the penn state cult voters but he should be.   Helping kids that could help him win football games doesnt excuse him for being a total fraud and child rape enabler.

11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 4:07PM #65
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Why does something so disgusting coming out of an area they call "Happy Valley", not seem so suprising.

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11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 4:26PM #66
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A chronological look at the case against former Penn State assistant football coach Jerry Sandusky, based on a grand jury report in Pennsylvania state court. Some key dates in Penn State football history are included. Sandusky has been charged with 40 criminal counts, accusing him of serial sex abuse of minors:

Jerry Sandusky starts his coaching career at Penn State University as a defensive line coach.

Jerry Sandusky founds The Second Mile. It begins as a group foster home dedicated to helping troubled boys and grows to become a charity dedicated to helping children with absent or dysfunctional families.

January 1983
Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football's national champion for the 1982 season.

January 1987
Associated Press voters select Penn State as college football's national champion for the 1986 season.

Boy known as Victim 7 in the report meets Sandusky through The Second Mile program at about the age of 10.

Boy known as Victim 6 meets Sandusky at a Second Mile picnic at Spring Creek Park when he is 7 or 8 years old.

Boy known as Victim 5, meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is 7 or 8, in second or third grade.

Boy known as Victim 4, at the age of 12 or 13, meets Sandusky while he is in his second year participating in The Second Mile program.

Victim 5 is taken to the locker rooms and showers at Penn State by Sandusky when he is 8 to 10 years old.

Jan. 1, 1998
Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of Sandusky's family party for the 1998 Outback Bowl.

Victim 6 is taken into the locker rooms and showers when he is 11 years old. When Victim 6 is dropped off at home, his hair is wet from showering with Sandusky. His mother reports the incident to the university police, who investigate.

Detective Ronald Schreffler testifies that he and State College Police Department Detective Ralph Ralston, with the consent of the mother of Victim 6, eavesdrop on two conversations the mother of Victim 6 has with Sandusky. Sandusky says he has showered with other boys and Victim 6's mother tries to make Sandusky promise never to shower with a boy again but he will not. At the end of the second conversation, after Sandusky is told he cannot see Victim 6 anymore, Schreffler testifies Sandusky says, "I understand. I was wrong. I wish I could get forgiveness. I know I won't get it from you. I wish I were dead."

Jerry Lauro, an investigator with the Pennsylvania Department of Public Welfare, testifies he and Schreffler interviewed Sandusky, and that Sandusky admits showering naked with Victim 6, admits to hugging Victim 6 while in the shower and admits that it was wrong.

The case is closed after then-Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar decides there will be no criminal charge.

June 1999
Sandusky retires from Penn State but still holds emeritus status.

Dec. 28, 1999
Victim 4 is listed, along with Sandusky's wife, as a member of Sandusky's family party for the 1999 Alamo Bowl.

Summer 2000
Boy known as Victim 3 meets Sandusky through The Second Mile when he is between seventh and eighth grade.

Fall 2000
A janitor named James Calhoun observes Sandusky in the showers of the Lasch Football Building with a young boy, known as Victim 8, pinned up against the wall, performing oral sex on the boy. He tells other janitorial staff immediately. Fellow Office of Physical Plant employee Ronald Petrosky cleans the showers at Lasch and sees Sandusky and the boy, who he describes as being between the ages of 11 and 13.

Calhoun tells other physical plant employees what he saw, including Jay Witherite, his immediate supervisor. Witherite tells him to whom he should report the incident. Calhoun was a temporary employee and never makes a report. Victim 8's identity is unknown.

March 1, 2002
A Penn State graduate assistant enters the locker room at the Lasch Football Building. In the showers, he sees a naked boy, known as Victim 2, whose age he estimates to be 10 years old, being subjected to anal intercourse by a naked Sandusky. The graduate assistant tells his father immediately.

March 2, 2002
In the morning, the graduate assistant calls coach Joe Paterno and goes to Paterno's home, where he reports what he has seen.

March 3, 2002
Paterno calls Tim Curley, Penn State athletic director to his home the next day and reports a version of what the grad assistant had said.

March 2002
Later in the month the graduate assistant is called to a meeting with Curley and senior vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz. The grad assistant reports what he has seen and Curley and Schultz say they will look into it.

March 27, 2002 (approximate)
The graduate assistant hears from Curley. He is told that Sandusky's locker room keys are taken away and that the incident has been reported to The Second Mile. The graduate assistant is never questioned by university police and no other entity conducts an investigation until the graduate assistant testifies in grand jury in December 2010.

Boy known as Victim 1 says that he meets Sandusky through The Second Mile at age 11 or 12.

Spring 2007
During the 2007 track season, Sandusky begins spending time with Victim 1 weekly, having him stay overnight at his residence in College Township, Pa.

Spring 2008
Termination of contact with Victim 1 occurs when he is a freshman in a Clinton County high school. After the boy's mother calls the school to report sexual assault, Sandusky is barred from the school district attended by Victim 1 from that day forward and the matter is reported to authorities as mandated by law.

Early 2009
An investigation by the Pennsylvania attorney general begins when a Clinton County, Pa., teen boy tells authorities that Sandusky has inappropriately touched him several times over a four-year period.

September 2010
Sandusky retires from day-to-day involvement with The Second Mile, saying he wants to spend more time with family and handle personal matters.

March 2011
Harrisburg (Pa.) Patriot-News reports that grand jury is investigating Sandusky on allegations of indecent assault against a teenage boy. The Patriot-News reports that five people with knowledge of the case said the grand jury has been meeting for 18 months and has called witnesses, including Paterno and Curley. Penn State declines comment.

Nov. 5, 2011
Sandusky is arrested and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts.

Nov. 7, 2011
Pennsylvania Attorney General Linda Kelly says Paterno is not a target of the investigation into how the school handled the accusations. But she refuses to say the same for university president Graham Spanier. Curley and Schultz, who have stepped down from their positions, surrender on charges that they failed to alert police to complaints against Sandusky.

Nov. 8, 2011
Possible ninth victim of Sandusky contacts state police as calls for ouster of Paterno and Spanier grow in state and beyond. Penn State abruptly cancels Paterno's regular weekly news conference.

Nov. 9, 2011
Paterno announces in the morning he'll retire at the end of the season, but the university's board of trustees rules later that Paterno and Spanier are out effective immediately. Defensive coordinator Tom Bradley is named interim coach and provost Rodney Erickson is named interim university president.

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11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 4:31PM #67
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Not surprising out of PSU - look how long it took them to get rid of Renee Portland.

11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 5:03PM #68
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As Syracuse football fan,I have always hated Penn State... Now I know why! What scumbags they are for covering that up!  I hope that their inaction tortures them for the rest of their days!

11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 5:06PM #69
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Nov 10, 2011 -- 1:16PM, JT wrote:

This just gets more and more sick & twisted by the minute...

REPORT: Sandusky "Pimped Out" Boys To Rich Penn State Donors

Sandusky Agreed To Retire In 1999 In Exchange For Penn State Cover Up

Sportswriter Mark Madden went on WEEI in Boston and reported a rumor that alleged child molester Jerry Sandusky would pimp out boys to rich donors.

"There will be a shocking development from the Second Miles Foundation ... That Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to rich donors."

Madden claims it's being investigated by "two prominent columnists."

We'd say this is ridiculous, and that you should take it with a grain of salt. But Madden actually wrote about Sandusky for the Beaver County Times six months ago — long before the scandal blindsided everyone else this week.

Madden also claimed Sandusky was forced out of Penn State in 1999.

"I think you'll find out that Jerry Sandusky was told he had to retire in exchange for a cover up."

Sandusky retired at 55 in 1999, a year after Pennsylvania police investigated (but did not prosecute) him for allegedly molesting a boy.

This was mentioned on Francesa's program.  It's getting uglier as additional info is leaked.  He has to be twisted and  more importantly everyone around him protected their little kingdom as they enabled him to wreck havoc for years.

11 years ago  ::  Nov 10, 2011 - 5:10PM #70
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Nov 10, 2011 -- 1:24PM, BW26 wrote:

Kim Jones is coming on Mike's show as she has been all week . She and Sweeney are  disgusted Penn Stare alumis. She  has been clearly very angry all week in her  voice.

Kim did an excellent job reporting this heinous situation.   It's so strange for many to support the hierarchy as they turn a blind eye.

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