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10 years ago  ::  Oct 29, 2012 - 5:03PM #21
JeterDan
Posts: 59

NON TENDER CANDIDATES


(I bolded the names who are appealing)


Position Players


Robert Andino
John Baker
Daric Barton
Kyle Blanks
Brennan Boesch
Emmanuel Burriss
Drew Butera
Alexi Casilla
Jesus Flores
Lew Ford
Ben Francisco
Sam Fuld
Jack Hannahan
Brett Hayes
Jonathan Herrera
Travis Ishikawa
Paul Janish
Dan Johnson
Don Kelly
George Kottaras
Brent Lillibridge
Casey McGehee
Nyjer Morgan
Wil Nieves
Jayson Nix
Steve Pearce
Brayan Pena
Omar Quintanilla
Ryan Raburn
Mark Reynolds
Ryan Roberts
Sean Rodriguez
Adam Rosales
Brendan Ryan
Gaby Sanchez
Nate Schierholtz
Geovany Soto
Ian Stewart
Drew Stubbs
Ryan Sweeney
Taylor Teagarden
Andres Torres
Luis Valbuena
Wilson Valdez
Eli Whiteside
Bobby Wilson


Pitchers


Alfredo Aceves
Manny Acosta
Scott Atchison
Brad Bergesen
Dallas Braden
Bill Bray
Joey Devine
Edgar Gonzalez
Clay Hensley
David Herndon
Rich Hill
Philip Humber
Tommy Hunter
Jair Jurrjens
John Lannan
Kameron Loe
Kyle McClellan
Charlie Morton
Peter Moylan
Logan Ondrusek
Josh Outman
Manny Parra
Mike Pelfrey
Rafael Perez
Kevin Slowey
Jose Veras
Chris Volstad
Cory Wade
Jerome Williams
Brian Wilson
Mike Zagurski


10 years ago  ::  Oct 30, 2012 - 12:48AM #22
Walton
Posts: 2,726

I'll tell ya this {and go check it out yourself} Greinke disproved a bunch of things in the last two months of the season pitching for the Angels.


1. "He doesn't like pressure and can't handle the big city media atmosphere." Wrong!..........Zach was arguably the best pitcher in baseball down the stretch for the Angels. His last eight or nine starts for them he had about a 1.65 ERA and I think in one stretch he didn't give up more than two runs in a ballgame for 7 straight starts going at least seven innings in each of those starts.  He was tremendous at crunch time.


2. {I think because he was pitching for his contract} he FINALLY started to pitch better on the road. He's always been great at home and very, very, mediocre on the road but the smell of money started to inspire him {seemingly} and he pitched very well down the stretch on the road.


3. Supposedly Greinke is gonna want a long term contract in the 6 or 7 yr range at 23 or 24 million. That is alot of money. Is he worth it. No. I don't think so BUT I don't think anyone is WORTH IT. I don't think Arod is worth it. I don't think Tex is worth it. I don't think CC is worth it. I don't think Pujols is worth it. I don't think Hamilton will be worth it. He's as "worth it" as anyone else I suppose. He's a very talented, front of the rotation pitcher. I think a guy like Greinke or Weaver are in CC's time zone. Are they as good as CC? I don't know. If you look at their IP {Greinke at least} WHIP, K's to BB, ERA, HR's per 9 innings, etc. etc. They are comparable. I think CC is good but I don't think he's the "end of the world." I don't think Pedro Martinez or Sandy Koufax or Bob Gibson have anything to worry about.


4. Supposedly Texas and the Angels are gonna bid for him. He could pitch and pitch well for the Yankees though. He cleaned up all that BS about not being able to pitch in a "pressure" situation this year. He pitched great down the stretch in Los Angeles California the second biggest media center in the United States...........................If Zach has problems it will be because he has problems. It will have nothing to do with NEW YORK or BOSTON or PHILLY or LA. He can pitch anywhere. That has absolutely no effect whatsoever. People {who don't know what they are talking about} love to recite that mantra about "the pressure of New York" blah, blah, blah. Heck. I think Greinke would be better in New York or Boston or LA. I think he loses his concentration sometimes in these little media centers.

10 years ago  ::  Oct 30, 2012 - 1:52PM #23
Searle
Posts: 3,094

Boston Globe:


"...Hiroki Kuroda, RHP, free agent — According to the Japanese media, who know him well, the 38-year-old is content signing a one-year deal at this stage in his career. The Yankees were able to sign him to a one-year, $10 million deal, and Kuroda could opt for a similar deal to stay in New York, or even return to Los Angeles, where the Dodgers could surely use him. Kuroda wants to maintain flexibility in case he wants to return to Japan after next season. He also is of the mind-set that he doesn’t want to become complacent as the result of a long-term deal. Management’s dream..."

10 years ago  ::  Oct 30, 2012 - 1:59PM #24
nyyfn27xws
Posts: 1,655

sign Kuroda please.


So as of this moment. This is what the team looks like heading into next year.

C -
1B - Tex
2B - Cano (option picked up)
SS - Jeter
3B - Arod
LF - Gardner
CF - Granderson (option picked up)
RF -
DH -

Sabathia
Hughes
Nova
Phelps
?

Logan
Aardsma (option picked up)
Chamberlain
Soriano (has yet to opt out)

Lots of work to do.

10 years ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 1:21AM #25
JeterDan
Posts: 59

Japanese Shortstop Hiroyuki Nakajima has again been posted and is a NPB free agent according to Japanese Sources.


Last year the Yankees won the bid on Nakajima (28) and were unable to agree to terms with him


Now that Jeter's ankle is in question and Arod is being floated around, not to mention the Yankees could have Hiroki Kuroda and Ichiro Suzuki this time around as positive role models / influences, the Yankees could be back in the market for Nakajima's services.


Nakajima would essentially take over Nix's role but would get more playing time and would be competing with Nunez especially if Arod is dealt.

10 years ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 2:36AM #26
Searle
Posts: 3,094

Jon Heyman


October 30, 2012 11:20 pm ET


"...Rafael Soriano is expected to opt out of the final year of his Yankees contract Wednesday... Soriano is believed to be seeking a four-year deal..."


10 years ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 9:30PM #27
Yankee1954
Posts: 8,749

Oct 28, 2012 -- 3:43PM, JeterDan wrote:

I've noticed a lot of ideas bouncing around on this forum with very little organization because many people post per day which means that free agent ideas and trade proposals get lost in the shuffle.

Let's use this thread as a front page mainstay all Offseason long to speculate and postulate on Yankees moves before and when they do occur.

Below is a blueprint of the Yankees Lineup Heading into Free Agency

C - Mike Napoli and Austin Romine
1B - Mark Teixeira
2B - Robinson Cano
3B - Alex Rodriguez
SS - Derek Jeter
LF - Brett Gardner
CF - Curtis Granderson
RF -Ichiro Suzuki
DH -Eduardo Nunez

Below is a blueprint of the Yankees Rotation Heading into Free Agency

SP1 - CC Sabathia
SP2 - Hiroki Kuroda
SP3 - Phil Hughes 
SP4 - Andy Pettitte
SP5 -David Phelps




Below is a blueprint of the Yankees Bullpen Heading into Free Agencyn

CP - Mariano Rivera
SU - David Robertson
MR - David Aardsma
MR - Joba Chamberlain
MR - Ivan Nova
LS - Boone Logan / Clay Rapada


Below is a blueprint of the Yankees Bench Heading into Free Agency



INF -David Adams
C - 
OF -Dave Dickerson
3B/1B - Jayson Nix

The Yankees are working to get under the hard cap 189 M Luxuary Tax in 2014 but still have flexibilty to make moves via free agency and trade to improve this team.

Key Free Agents who are almost definitely off the books include - Rafael Soriano and Nick Swisher 

So the Yankees will have money to invest in the bullpen and outfield as well as the rotation and behind the plate. (Below are the top 30 Free Agents in this years class)



1. Josh Hamilton, OF
2. Zack Grienke, RHP
3. Michael Bourn, OF
4. Dan Haren, RHP
5. Nick Swisher, OF
6. Mike Napoli, C
7. David Ortiz, DH
8. Rafael Soriano, RHP
9. BJ Upton, OF
10. Kevin Youkilis, 3B
11. Hiroki Kuroda, RHP
12. Shane Victorino, OF
13. Kyle Lohse, RHP
14. Torii Hunter, OF
15. Anibal Sanchez, RHP
16. Angel Pagan, OF
17. Shaun Marcum, RHP
18. AJ Pierzynski, C
19. Jake Peavy, RHP
20. Brandon McCarthy, RHP
21. Marco Scutaro, SS
22. Edwin Jackson, RHP
23. Melky Cabrera, OF
24. Jonathan Broxton, RHP
25. Ichiro Suzuki, OF
26. Ryan Dempster, RHP
27. Russell Martin, C
28. Stephen Drew, SS
29. Joakim Soria, RHP
30. Ryan Ludwick, OF



Despite some injuries, we still have intriguing pieces on the farm if we need to get a trade completed. 

The 2012 - 2013 Offseason will be key toward getting younger, faster, and better. Use this thread to get ideas circulating. Sometimes these internet rumors catch fire and can actually alert the Yankees of a player who fits their needs through media who relay those ideas. Enjoy and have fun posting :)



Great start. I like Aardsma in the pen. He was having a great season when he got hurt. I'd like to move Phelps to the starting rotation and leave him there. That would leave us to resign Kuroda and Andy. Not long term contracts but 2 for Kuroda and 1 for Andy. That would put Nova as the the 6th starter. Or Nova could be put on the block. Finally to fill the pitching sign Mo! If Mo retires take a flyer on Soria from KC.


For the bench I think you forgot Jayson Nix, he was a good player for us this year and can play multiple positions. We have to get Nunez in the lineup, he is too good of hitter. If they aren't going to play Nunez trade him. I believe Romine can finally come up and be one of the catchers. If Martin leaves get another catcher, I would say Napoli but he isn't a very good catcher. Maybe he could take Ibanez spot because he will be too much, Cashman has already hinted at this. And I am concerned about Derek Jeter's ankle. He will 39 and coming off a serious injury, he may not have the mobility to play SS anymore. That will screw everything up!


In the OF we have Granderson, to July when we can trade him for some youngsters. We need young blood. Resign Ichiro, I think he liked NY alot, 2 years. That gives us a great OF fielding wise and adds speed instead of hitting home ruins or nothing. 

10 years ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 9:31PM #28
Yankee1954
Posts: 8,749

Oct 31, 2012 -- 1:21AM, JeterDan wrote:


Japanese Shortstop Hiroyuki Nakajima has again been posted and is a NPB free agent according to Japanese Sources.


Last year the Yankees won the bid on Nakajima (28) and were unable to agree to terms with him


Now that Jeter's ankle is in question and Arod is being floated around, not to mention the Yankees could have Hiroki Kuroda and Ichiro Suzuki this time around as positive role models / influences, the Yankees could be back in the market for Nakajima's services.


Nakajima would essentially take over Nix's role but would get more playing time and would be competing with Nunez especially if Arod is dealt.




He is not that good, just a utility type middle IF.

10 years ago  ::  Oct 31, 2012 - 10:48PM #29
RobS44
Posts: 5,608

Oct 31, 2012 -- 9:30PM, Yankee1954 wrote:


Below is a blueprint of the Yankees Lineup Heading into Free Agency

C - Mike Napoli and Austin Romine



I believe Romine can finally come up and be one of the catchers. If Martin leaves get another catcher, I would say Napoli but he isn't a very good catcher.





Napoli isn’t really a catcher any more.  More a 1B/DH.  Not even sure you’d want him as a backup catcher.  Romine looked OK defensively during his cup of coffee in 2011, but he also looked totally overmatched at the plate.  And he missed most of 2012.  No way he is ready to be the starting catcher.


Sorry to say the best option is Martin if they can get him for 2 years max.  But given the abysmal FA catching group, Martin is the “cream” of that crop.  I am guessing someone offers him at least 3 years.

10 years ago  ::  Nov 01, 2012 - 12:37AM #30
JeterDan
Posts: 59

Yankees been linked to Torii Hunter according to Mark Feinsand.

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