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10 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2013 - 12:15AM #11
NW
Posts: 13,163

Jul 14, 2013 -- 9:12PM, luvdayanks wrote:

IMO

CC    B-
Pettite C
Kuroda A+
Hughes C+
Phelps B+
Logan B-
Kelly A
Claiborne  B+
Warren  A
Joba  F
Nova C
Robertson A
Mo A
Nuno B
Cano B
Overbay C
Nix B-
Nunez D-
Romine D-
Stewart A
Hafner F
Wells D
Ichiro C
Gardner C-


Adams D


Almonte B+


Youkilis F


Cruz C




Overall Grades:


Offense D-


Defense B+


Pitching A-


Manager A-

10 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2013 - 12:16AM #12
Yankees
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Cano should be at least an A.

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10 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2013 - 12:26AM #13
NW
Posts: 13,163

Jul 15, 2013 -- 12:16AM, Yankees wrote:


Cano should be at least an A.




I don't think Cano is an A, simply because he seems to disappear in the clutch.  Here's a few stats that show it...


Late & Close:  .239


Tie Game:  .237


Game within 1 R:  .261


Game within 2 R:  .272


Game within 3 R:  .282


Game within 4 R:  .290


Game > 4R:  .372


He is making his statistics either when the Yankees are way ahead or way behind.  His worst inning to hit is also the first inning...the one where he's probably most likely not to be pitched around, so you can't really blame the "no protection" thing.  He also has been a hitter who really only hits when things are in his favor.  He's hitting .238 in counts with 2 strikes...that's not 0-2, that's all 2 strike counts.

10 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2013 - 12:33AM #14
Yankees
Posts: 6,807

Jul 15, 2013 -- 12:26AM, NW wrote:


Jul 15, 2013 -- 12:16AM, Yankees wrote:


Cano should be at least an A.




I don't think Cano is an A, simply because he seems to disappear in the clutch.  Here's a few stats that show it...


Late & Close:  .239


Tie Game:  .237


Game within 1 R:  .261


Game within 2 R:  .272


Game within 3 R:  .282


Game within 4 R:  .290


Game > 4R:  .372


He is making his statistics either when the Yankees are way ahead or way behind.  His worst inning to hit is also the first inning...the one where he's probably most likely not to be pitched around, so you can't really blame the "no protection" thing.  He also has been a hitter who really only hits when things are in his favor.  He's hitting .238 in counts with 2 strikes...that's not 0-2, that's all 2 strike counts.




He's batting .302 with 21 bombs 65 rbis and .386 obp.  He is having a career year in a lineup with no protection, no matter how you try to distort it that's an A rating period.

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10 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2013 - 12:47AM #15
AJFreeway
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CC    C-
Pettite C
Kuroda A+
Hughes C-
Phelps B-
Logan B
Kelly B+
Claiborne  B+
Warren  B
Joba  F
Nova B-
Robertson A
Mo A-
Nuno B-
Cano A-
Overbay B
Nix C
Nunez C
Romine F
Stewart C+
Hafner C-
Wells C-
Ichiro B
Gardner B+


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Kuroda definitely deserves at least an A. I can't imagine another late 30's starting pitcher doing as well as he is on any team this season. Rivera has been very good, but not perfect; those blown saves take a bit away from his score. Nunez just got back and has been playing better of late. I can't see how Joba receives anything other than a failing grade at this point. Girardi has the team over .500, but they are far from contending, and are only one spot above where they were predicted to finish this year. He gets a B- so far.

"There is a fine line between 'extended slump' and 'bad hitter.'"

10 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2013 - 6:22AM #16
YankeeLoon
Posts: 17,903
nwfire you make good points.  Cano is a B.
10 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2013 - 7:53AM #17
yankeeoldfan
Posts: 12,741

I'm not going to grade each individual, but the Offense gets a C-, the Defense gets a B+ maybe higher until after yesterday's debacle against Minn., the pitching gets an A-, coaches not including Girardi get a C and I give Girardi an A-..

10 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2013 - 8:40AM #18
trickstar
Posts: 661

Jul 14, 2013 -- 9:12PM, luvdayanks wrote:

IMO

CC    C
Pettite C-
Kuroda B+
Hughes C-
Phelps B
Logan B
Kelly A-
Claiborne  B
Warren  B
Joba  D
Nova C+
Robertson A
Mo A
Nuno B-
Cano B+
Overbay B
Nix C+
Nunez D
Romine F
Stewart B
Hafner D
Wells C-
Ichiro B
Gardner B

The rest, Youk, Gonzalez, Cruz and the rest of the band aids D-



I will just pick out the ones I think you are way off on and explain why listing your grade before the name and my grade after.


B+ Kuroda A+    


2.65 ERA pitching in the AL east in Yankee stadium.  Outstanding numbers, on pace to be worth ~$25M this year while only making I think $15M.


C+ Nova A        


Early struggles and demotion keep me from giving him an A+.  His numbers have been outstanding including his advanced stats lately, and even when you combine his first half.  3.63 ERA with a 3.00 FIP pretty nice.  In the AL east in this stadium I would love it if Nova can post these numbers every year.


B+ Cano A


Putting up crazy numbers again for a 2nd basemen.  Only reason I did not give him an A+ is because I'm taking into account his potential which could be even higher.  Any other 2nd basemen putting up these numbers would have easily been an A+ for me.


B Ichiro C


Not a huge difference in our grade but one that I wanted to point out.  His offense numbers are not good when looked at as a 1st half whole.  He has made up for it with good defense and good base running.  Also if you want to say his potential isn't very high based on his age then B is probably a fair grade.  I just assume that most people here are weighing mostly on offense stats for these players, which Ichiro ranks very low on.


B Gardner A-


Great offense numbers, great defense, good base running skills.  The problem with Gardner is that he should have elite base running skills and that part of his game this year has been very lacking.  On pace for another 4 WAR season despite his struggles with the bases.

10 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2013 - 9:54AM #19
grudz
Posts: 2,657

Jul 14, 2013 -- 9:12PM, luvdayanks wrote:

IMO

CC    C
Pettite C-
Kuroda B+
Hughes C-
Phelps B
Logan B
Kelly A-
Claiborne  B
Warren  B
Joba  D
Nova C+
Robertson A
Mo A
Nuno B-
Cano B+
Overbay B
Nix C+
Nunez D
Romine F
Stewart B
Hafner D
Wells C-
Ichiro B
Gardner B

The rest, Youk, Gonzalez, Cruz and the rest of the band aids D-




Hafner's not an "F."  He's second on the team in homers. He's got the third highest slugging % and OPS on the team.  He's got an OBP that's much higher than Overbay.  He had a torrid April and won several games for the Yanks with clutch hits in the early part of the season.  And he's avoided major injury.  Sure, he's worn down over the last month and he's slumping, but it's more of a "C/C-" than an "F."  Or would you rather have a DH with no power at all.


Sorry, I meant to reply to the original poster, who gave him an "F."

Grudz
10 years ago  ::  Jul 15, 2013 - 10:37AM #20
luvdayanks
Posts: 31,609

Jul 15, 2013 -- 12:16AM, Yankees wrote:


Cano should be at least an A.





Shocking you would think that. Cano is no better than a B+ due to his lack of hustle at times and his streakiness, or lack of consistency. Looking at just his numbers he gets an A, throw in the intangibles and he's a B+ at best.

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