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Here we go as in Hot Stove baseball....Yankees make qualifying offers to Cano, Kuroda, Granderson
8 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2013 - 12:23AM #31
AJFreeway
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Nov 7, 2013 -- 10:29AM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 6, 2013 -- 1:42AM, AJFreeway wrote:


$14 million is awfully high for Granderson. The Yankees might have been hoping he would walk and they could pick up the draft pick for him, but his comments about the offer would suggest he's going to accept it. He would be crazy not to, since it's at least a few million more than anyone else would give him.




He made 15 mil this year. He had freak injuries this year, not career concerning injuries. He will get a good offer from another team. I'd be shocked if he accepted the QO. If he does then the Yanks don't have to worry about upgrading the OF.




If the season played out normally, based on career full-season averages, he was on pace for 173 K, 18 HR, 38 RBI with an average in the .230's. The freak injuries didn't do anything to disrupt his absurd strikeout totals, while his HR's and RBI numbers suffered big time. He's making a huge mistake thinking anyone is going to give him $15 million or more. He must be banking on the fact that he's a "former Yankee" to make people think he'd be worth it.

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8 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2013 - 1:40AM #32
doubleplay643
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Granderson is banking on teams see him for what he was plagued by. Fluke injuries. The K's hurt him but that didn't stop Adam Dunn from getting an offer from the White Sox and Granderson can at least play a position to boot. 

8 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2013 - 9:27AM #33
JoeGNJ
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Nov 9, 2013 -- 1:40AM, doubleplay643 wrote:


Granderson is banking on teams see him for what he was plagued by. Fluke injuries. The K's hurt him but that didn't stop Adam Dunn from getting an offer from the White Sox and Granderson can at least play a position to boot. 




I truly LIKE Curtis. I hate his k'ing so much. That said, if he accepts the Yanks QO, it has a dramtic impact on the post season strategy, unless he's traded. Sure closes the door on any more outfiled moves unless there are other trades made. Has a domino effect too, as players rumored we are after become available to our rivals. 

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8 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2013 - 10:13AM #34
laurenfrances
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Nov 9, 2013 -- 1:40AM, doubleplay643 wrote:


Granderson is banking on teams see him for what he was plagued by. Fluke injuries. The K's hurt him but that didn't stop Adam Dunn from getting an offer from the White Sox and Granderson can at least play a position to boot. 




From what was reported...Mets are waiting to see what the market bears, they are interested in him.  Choo/Ellsbury is too rich for their blood as Mets need power and OFers.

8 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2013 - 10:40AM #35
laurenfrances
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Prince Hal: Steinbrenner, Yankees big players at next week's meeting





  • Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner plans to be active at next week's GM meetings. (Getty)



Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner plans to be active at next week's GM meetings. (Getty Images)

Yankees managing partner Hal Steinbrenner and top Yankees executives are lining up meetings at next week's General Manager meetings with agents for multiple big-name free agents, showing strong signs they'll be back as big-time free-agent players.


They are closely eying just about every big-time performer who's free (with one notable exception).


It's interesting that Steinbrenner appears to be at the center of things as the Yankees try to rebound from what was for them a disappointing season. "Hal is very involved, and he wants to win," someone familiar with the Yankees dealings said.


The Yankees have to be considered the favorite to retain star second baseman Robinson Cano, but they are also looking closely as the four players just below Cano on this year's agent list -- Jacoby EllsburyShin-Soo Choo, Masahiro Tanaka and Brian McCann -- and maybe a dozen players, or more, overall.


Word is the Yankees still believe they can keep get their payroll below the luxury-tax threshold of $189 million, thanks to $100 million or so in contracts coming off the books, depending to a fair degree on the status of Alex Rodriguez's PED arbitration case vs. MLB.


"The Yankees have been very aggressive" showing interest, said agent Scott Boras, who represents Ellsbury, Choo and shortstop Stephen Drew.


The Yankees havern't been major free-agent players the past couple winters, signing back their own guys like Hiroki Kuroda, Andy Pettitte and Mariano Rivera while doing mostly short-term deals, like the one-year deals for Eric Chavez and Raul Ibanez two winters ago and the ones for Kevin Youkilis and Travis Hafner last winter.


Also on the Yankees' expansive list for interest this time are Drew and pitchers Matt Garza,Ubaldo JimenezBronson ArroyoScott Feldman and Dan Haren. One big free-agent name conspicuously absent from their list of top targets is pitcher Ervin Santana, as people who have talked to the Yankees said they aren't convinced he's right for New York.


The GM meetings begin Monday in Orlando with club owners expected to file in Tuesday or Wednesday for their own meetings.


The presence of Drew on the list suggests the Yankees may want at least a strong shortstop hedge in case they decide Derek Jeter won't be able to handle full-time duties anymore -- though third base is obviously a considerable question, too, with the 211-game Biogenesis ban hanging over Rodriguez's head. Ellsbury is interesting, too, as an Ellsbury signing would necessitate a move of Brett Gardner to a corner outfield spot.


Steinbrenner certainly doesn't have the personality of his father -- he hasn't been known to yell, scream, or for that matter, rip -- but that doesn't mean he isn't in the middle of things. He worked out the $12 million deal to bring Jeter back with the iconic shortstop and his agent Casey Close.


They say general manager Brian Cashman isn't being blamed for the Yankees' inability to reach the playoffs for just the second time in 19 years, that injuries ultimately hurt them most. And Cashman did work the deal to bring back his guy Joe Girardi as manager, and did also make the call to make the $14.1 million qualifying offer to Curtis Granderson after a debate about whether that was worth the risk (they obviously want him to decline it, so they can sign one of the free-agent outfielders).


But, as Cashman pointed out in the past, especially in the Rafael Soriano signing, where ownership overruled his "no" vote, Yankees ownership will have its say. In the case ofAlfonso Soriano, Cashman eventually came around to agree with club president Randy Levine that Alfonso Soriano made sense, but sources suggest he was at least telling the Cubs he didn't want to relent on minor leaguer Corey Black until Levine and Steinbrenner overruled him.


Steinbrenner was obviously right on that score. And he hopes to keep his streak alive in Orlando.









8 years ago  ::  Nov 09, 2013 - 12:27PM #36
doubleplay643
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Nov 9, 2013 -- 10:13AM, laurenfrances wrote:


Nov 9, 2013 -- 1:40AM, doubleplay643 wrote:


Granderson is banking on teams see him for what he was plagued by. Fluke injuries. The K's hurt him but that didn't stop Adam Dunn from getting an offer from the White Sox and Granderson can at least play a position to boot. 




From what was reported...Mets are waiting to see what the market bears, they are interested in him.  Choo/Ellsbury is too rich for their blood as Mets need power and OFers.




The Mets have their change jars out as we speak. Let's see how many pennies they can turn up with. One penny, two penny, three penny, four. 

8 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2013 - 1:11AM #37
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Nov 4, 2013 -- 3:04PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 4, 2013 -- 2:51PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Nov 4, 2013 -- 2:47PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


Nov 4, 2013 -- 2:17PM, laurenfrances wrote:


Nov 4, 2013 -- 2:16PM, GottaGoToMo wrote:


?? Robinson Cano




Yeah all listed will have till next Monday to make decisions to stay or go....





Hold on ... didn't they say they were going to make him a solid offer?




Offer or otherwise, Cano has consistently said, he wants to test the free agent market.  He'll see what the market bears priority to Yankees matching it. Yankees should learn from previous mistakes in regards to bidding against them self.  Lets see who will be knocking....





If he's not interested in remaining a Yankee after coming up through the system, then I don't care if he walks.




100% sure that wasn't your opinion when players like Mo, Jeter and Posada tested FA.

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8 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2013 - 1:13AM #38
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Nov 6, 2013 -- 1:42AM, AJFreeway wrote:


$14 million is awfully high for Granderson. The Yankees might have been hoping he would walk and they could pick up the draft pick for him, but his comments about the offer would suggest he's going to accept it. He would be crazy not to, since it's at least a few million more than anyone else would give him.




If healthy Granderson will hit .250 with 30+ bombs so I am sure the Yanks won't mind that.

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8 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2013 - 10:37AM #39
61in61
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Nov 9, 2013 -- 12:23AM, AJFreeway wrote:


Nov 7, 2013 -- 10:29AM, yank0428 wrote:


Nov 6, 2013 -- 1:42AM, AJFreeway wrote:


$14 million is awfully high for Granderson. The Yankees might have been hoping he would walk and they could pick up the draft pick for him, but his comments about the offer would suggest he's going to accept it. He would be crazy not to, since it's at least a few million more than anyone else would give him.




He made 15 mil this year. He had freak injuries this year, not career concerning injuries. He will get a good offer from another team. I'd be shocked if he accepted the QO. If he does then the Yanks don't have to worry about upgrading the OF.




If the season played out normally, based on career full-season averages, he was on pace for 173 K, 18 HR, 38 RBI with an average in the .230's. The freak injuries didn't do anything to disrupt his absurd strikeout totals, while his HR's and RBI numbers suffered big time. He's making a huge mistake thinking anyone is going to give him $15 million or more. He must be banking on the fact that he's a "former Yankee" to make people think he'd be worth it.




I think he will easily get $15M. Its a thin FA market this year and as a result teams are willing to overpay for the better players.

8 years ago  ::  Nov 11, 2013 - 11:14AM #40
laurenfrances
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As reported....Weiters is not too interested in a contract extension.  There are rumors of Orioles entertaining to trade him as they might even look into signing Salty.  If Weiters have plans of walking, entertaining a trade might be out there.


Matt Wieters and agent Scott Boras aren’t eager to agree to a contract extension.  Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports suggested over the weekend that the O's could seek to move Wieters and target a replacement such as Jarrod Saltalamacchia, but Dubroff says that it's premature to consider such a thing.  Changing catchers on a young pitching staff is probably a bad idea and with Wieters under control through 2015, there shouldn't be any real rush to trade him if he doesn't agree to a new deal.

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