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8 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2014 - 8:00AM #31
YankeeLoon
Posts: 17,903
^^^^ said Stewie the little runt who never saw Munson play but can Google stats online with the best of them! !

Here's a hint ya little runt: it's not your fault you were born when you were but it is your fault that you think you're an authority on things you clearly know jack sht about.

Now go get your fkin shine box.
8 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2014 - 8:10AM #32
Stewie
Posts: 2,450

Jun 24, 2014 -- 8:00AM, YankeeLoon wrote:

^^^^ said Stewie the little runt who never saw Munson play but can Google stats online with the best of them! ! Here's a hint ya little runt: it's not your fault you were born when you were but it is your fault that you think you're an authority on things you clearly know jack sht about. Now go get your fkin shine box.



Yes, by all means, let's retire the numbers of every player who averaged 10 HRs and 64 RBIs.


Try to think of him as if he'd lived and continued on the downward slide he'd already embarked upon.  He'd have finished his career a few years later, averaging even fewer HRs and RBIs per season with a lifetime BA somewhere in the .270s.  He wasn't killed in action fighting for his country; he was killed by his own hubris, trying to fly an airplane that was too much aircraft for his limited piloting skills.  It was a shame for his family but that's the way it was.


You do remember what happened to Billy Batts, don't you?

8 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2014 - 8:15AM #33
YankeeLoon
Posts: 17,903
Waste of time. Go get your shine box already.
8 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2014 - 8:41AM #34
matt
Posts: 14

Jun 24, 2014 -- 8:10AM, Stewie wrote:


Jun 24, 2014 -- 8:00AM, YankeeLoon wrote:

^^^^ said Stewie the little runt who never saw Munson play but can Google stats online with the best of them! ! Here's a hint ya little runt: it's not your fault you were born when you were but it is your fault that you think you're an authority on things you clearly know jack sht about. Now go get your fkin shine box.



Yes, by all means, let's retire the numbers of every player who averaged 10 HRs and 64 RBIs.


Try to think of him as if he'd lived and continued on the downward slide he'd already embarked upon.  He'd have finished his career a few years later, averaging even fewer HRs and RBIs per season with a lifetime BA somewhere in the .270s.  He wasn't killed in action fighting for his country; he was killed by his own hubris, trying to fly an airplane that was too much aircraft for his limited piloting skills.  It was a shame for his family but that's the way it was.


You do remember what happened to Billy Batts, don't you?




Stewie, It's more than just stats that got Munson's number retired.  It was also character and him being one of the more respected players of the time.

8 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2014 - 8:47AM #35
YankeeLoon
Posts: 17,903
It was only 460 feet to CF and 430 to LCF in Yankee Stadium when he played but let Stewie the love runt speak his little mind.
8 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2014 - 9:24AM #36
bomberhojoe
Posts: 15,402

Jun 24, 2014 -- 8:41AM, matt wrote:


Jun 24, 2014 -- 8:10AM, Stewie wrote:


Jun 24, 2014 -- 8:00AM, YankeeLoon wrote:

^^^^ said Stewie the little runt who never saw Munson play but can Google stats online with the best of them! ! Here's a hint ya little runt: it's not your fault you were born when you were but it is your fault that you think you're an authority on things you clearly know jack sht about. Now go get your fkin shine box.



Yes, by all means, let's retire the numbers of every player who averaged 10 HRs and 64 RBIs.


Try to think of him as if he'd lived and continued on the downward slide he'd already embarked upon.  He'd have finished his career a few years later, averaging even fewer HRs and RBIs per season with a lifetime BA somewhere in the .270s.  He wasn't killed in action fighting for his country; he was killed by his own hubris, trying to fly an airplane that was too much aircraft for his limited piloting skills.  It was a shame for his family but that's the way it was.


You do remember what happened to Billy Batts, don't you?




Stewie, It's more than just stats that got Munson's number retired.  It was also character and him being one of the more respected players of the time.




People who focus on HR totals, really miss the point about what makes a great ball player, in my opinion.  Dave Kingman hit alot of HRs, but was nothing great, HRs is why Reggie Jackson is so overrated, IMO.  Munson was a great catcher who would run through a wall for his team.  He was as clutch as any player I can recall and played one of the best World Series I have ever seen, in a losing cause in 1976.


Check out minute 13:00 when the Reds were saying how great Munson was.


John 3:16 * Ephesians 2:8-9 * Romans 10:9-10 * John 14:3-6 * Romans 5:8
8 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2014 - 9:30AM #37
Stewie
Posts: 2,450

Matt said:



Stewie, It's more than just stats that got Munson's number retired.  It was also character and him being one of the more respected players of the time.


Matt,


What?  He played hard and hustled?  We retire numbers for that?  He just did what every player is supposed to do: play every game as if it mattered and leave it all out on the field.  Sorry, but that's not enough.  The numbers just aren't there.  It was very sad when he got himself killed (see the NTSB accident report) and nearly got two other people killed along with him but that has nothing to do with retiring a number.  I've beaten this horse long enough; if you don't get the distinction between superstar and "Gee it's too bad he died so young" then I can't make you see it.

8 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2014 - 9:40AM #38
Stewie
Posts: 2,450

Jun 24, 2014 -- 9:24AM, bomberhojoe wrote:


Jun 24, 2014 -- 8:41AM, matt wrote:


Jun 24, 2014 -- 8:10AM, Stewie wrote:


Jun 24, 2014 -- 8:00AM, YankeeLoon wrote:

^^^^ said Stewie the little runt who never saw Munson play but can Google stats online with the best of them! ! Here's a hint ya little runt: it's not your fault you were born when you were but it is your fault that you think you're an authority on things you clearly know jack sht about. Now go get your fkin shine box.



Yes, by all means, let's retire the numbers of every player who averaged 10 HRs and 64 RBIs.


Try to think of him as if he'd lived and continued on the downward slide he'd already embarked upon.  He'd have finished his career a few years later, averaging even fewer HRs and RBIs per season with a lifetime BA somewhere in the .270s.  He wasn't killed in action fighting for his country; he was killed by his own hubris, trying to fly an airplane that was too much aircraft for his limited piloting skills.  It was a shame for his family but that's the way it was.


You do remember what happened to Billy Batts, don't you?




Stewie, It's more than just stats that got Munson's number retired.  It was also character and him being one of the more respected players of the time.




People who focus on HR totals, really miss the point about what makes a great ball player, in my opinion.  Dave Kingman hit alot of HRs, but was nothing great, HRs is why Reggie Jackson is so overrated, IMO.  Munson was a great catcher who would run through a wall for his team.  He was as clutch as any player I can recall and played one of the best World Series I have ever seen, in a losing cause in 1976.


Check out minute 13:00 when the Reds were saying how great Munson was.


 


 


 


As I've said repeatedly, Munson has great moments and a few great seasons.  He was an excellent ballplayer with the kind of attitude you wish the whole Yankee team had.  But that doesn't support retiring his number.  In other words...


RUTH


GEHRIG


MUNSON


MANTLE


DIMAGGIO


Now, everybody sing along: 


One of these things is not like the others,


One of these things just doesn't belong


 

8 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2014 - 9:57AM #39
61in61
Posts: 26,516

Jun 24, 2014 -- 9:30AM, Stewie wrote:


Matt said:



Stewie, It's more than just stats that got Munson's number retired.  It was also character and him being one of the more respected players of the time.


Matt,


What?  He played hard and hustled?  We retire numbers for that?  He just did what every player is supposed to do: play every game as if it mattered and leave it all out on the field.  Sorry, but that's not enough.  The numbers just aren't there.  It was very sad when he got himself killed (see the NTSB accident report) and nearly got two other people killed along with him but that has nothing to do with retiring a number.  I've beaten this horse long enough; if you don't get the distinction between superstar and "Gee it's too bad he died so young" then I can't make you see it.




Look, just give it up. There is no way you can make a case for Munson not having his number retired.

8 years ago  ::  Jun 24, 2014 - 10:10AM #40
luvdayanks
Posts: 31,505

Jun 24, 2014 -- 9:57AM, 61in61 wrote:


Jun 24, 2014 -- 9:30AM, Stewie wrote:


Matt said:



Stewie, It's more than just stats that got Munson's number retired.  It was also character and him being one of the more respected players of the time.


Matt,


What?  He played hard and hustled?  We retire numbers for that?  He just did what every player is supposed to do: play every game as if it mattered and leave it all out on the field.  Sorry, but that's not enough.  The numbers just aren't there.  It was very sad when he got himself killed (see the NTSB accident report) and nearly got two other people killed along with him but that has nothing to do with retiring a number.  I've beaten this horse long enough; if you don't get the distinction between superstar and "Gee it's too bad he died so young" then I can't make you see it.




Look, just give it up. There is no way you can make a case for Munson not having his number retired.





But, he'll keep trying because he knows everything...NOT!

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