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How does Cashman Keep His Job?
8 years ago  ::  Oct 12, 2014 - 2:56PM #21
ArtVandelay
Posts: 34,732

Oct 12, 2014 -- 2:47PM, newinn wrote:


Oct 12, 2014 -- 2:13PM, ArtVandelay wrote:


Congrats to the OP for creating the one millionth thread about 'if George were still alive'!!!  You have won a boxed VHS set of The White Shadow season 3!!!




George died?????




you haven't seen his 30 foot high tombstone in Monument Park?

8 years ago  ::  Oct 12, 2014 - 3:00PM #22
newinn
Posts: 39,007

Oct 12, 2014 -- 2:56PM, ArtVandelay wrote:


Oct 12, 2014 -- 2:47PM, newinn wrote:


Oct 12, 2014 -- 2:13PM, ArtVandelay wrote:


Congrats to the OP for creating the one millionth thread about 'if George were still alive'!!!  You have won a boxed VHS set of The White Shadow season 3!!!




George died?????




you haven't seen his 30 foot high tombstone in Monument Park?




I thought that was just up there to scare off the riff-raff

8 years ago  ::  Oct 12, 2014 - 4:01PM #23
BigGuy
Posts: 66,015

There can be no more Cashman apologists


October 11, 2014 | 13 comments | in Featured | by SJK



We’ve been critical of Brian Cashman over the last two seasons, because he’s abandoned the philosophy he emphatically advocated earlier in his tenure.


Cashman in 2005:



“We have to get back to doing what made the Yankees so good for such a long period beginning in the ’90s,” said Cashman. “We’re in the position we’re in because we stopped developing our own young players.


“… storm clouds are on the horizon if we keep just staying old,” Cashman said. “You’ve got to reinvent yourself with youth and mix them in with the veterans, instead of going all veterans.”



What the hell happened to this?


Anyway, with the circus that is the Yankees’ front office, there’s always been questions whether player transactions are either “Cashman moves”, “Randy Levine moves”, or “Someone Else’s Moves.” For example, it was reported that Cashman did not want to sign Arod to a 10-year deal, wanted to be tougher re-negotiating Derek Jeter’s contracts, didn’t want Russell Martin to leave, etc. As a result of these reports, we (and others) sometimes cut Cashman some slack.


Well, no one can cut him any more slack. As we tweeted yesterday:




We (and NYY fans) have wondered if Cash has been overruled. He had the opportunity to leave again but re-signed. Deserves blame/credit now



No more apologists. If his power is sometimes usurped, it doesn’t matter. By re-signing for another three years, he’s clearly made it known he’s a company man. He knows the environment. If he wanted to put his own unique stamp on a team, he could have left. He now deserves to be linked to every move or non-move this team makes. No more excuses for him.


"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
8 years ago  ::  Oct 12, 2014 - 4:16PM #24
ArtVandelay
Posts: 34,732

Oct 12, 2014 -- 4:01PM, BigGuy wrote:



There can be no more Cashman apologists


October 11, 2014 | 13 comments | in Featured | by SJK



We’ve been critical of Brian Cashman over the last two seasons, because he’s abandoned the philosophy he emphatically advocated earlier in his tenure.


Cashman in 2005:



“We have to get back to doing what made the Yankees so good for such a long period beginning in the ’90s,” said Cashman. “We’re in the position we’re in because we stopped developing our own young players.


“… storm clouds are on the horizon if we keep just staying old,” Cashman said. “You’ve got to reinvent yourself with youth and mix them in with the veterans, instead of going all veterans.”



What the hell happened to this?


Anyway, with the circus that is the Yankees’ front office, there’s always been questions whether player transactions are either “Cashman moves”, “Randy Levine moves”, or “Someone Else’s Moves.” For example, it was reported that Cashman did not want to sign Arod to a 10-year deal, wanted to be tougher re-negotiating Derek Jeter’s contracts, didn’t want Russell Martin to leave, etc. As a result of these reports, we (and others) sometimes cut Cashman some slack.


Well, no one can cut him any more slack. As we tweeted yesterday:




We (and NYY fans) have wondered if Cash has been overruled. He had the opportunity to leave again but re-signed. Deserves blame/credit now



No more apologists. If his power is sometimes usurped, it doesn’t matter. By re-signing for another three years, he’s clearly made it known he’s a company man. He knows the environment. If he wanted to put his own unique stamp on a team, he could have left. He now deserves to be linked to every move or non-move this team makes. No more excuses for him.





I saw that on nomaas, as usual they make no sense, they should just stick to the funny photoshops - those guys on that site have zero baseball knowledge...

8 years ago  ::  Oct 12, 2014 - 4:42PM #25
Paterson
Posts: 8,939

Oct 12, 2014 -- 4:01PM, BigGuy wrote:



There can be no more Cashman apologists


October 11, 2014 | 13 comments | in Featured | by SJK



We’ve been critical of Brian Cashman over the last two seasons, because he’s abandoned the philosophy he emphatically advocated earlier in his tenure.


Cashman in 2005:



“We have to get back to doing what made the Yankees so good for such a long period beginning in the ’90s,” said Cashman. “We’re in the position we’re in because we stopped developing our own young players.


“… storm clouds are on the horizon if we keep just staying old,” Cashman said. “You’ve got to reinvent yourself with youth and mix them in with the veterans, instead of going all veterans.”



What the hell happened to this?


Anyway, with the circus that is the Yankees’ front office, there’s always been questions whether player transactions are either “Cashman moves”, “Randy Levine moves”, or “Someone Else’s Moves.” For example, it was reported that Cashman did not want to sign Arod to a 10-year deal, wanted to be tougher re-negotiating Derek Jeter’s contracts, didn’t want Russell Martin to leave, etc. As a result of these reports, we (and others) sometimes cut Cashman some slack.


Well, no one can cut him any more slack. As we tweeted yesterday:




We (and NYY fans) have wondered if Cash has been overruled. He had the opportunity to leave again but re-signed. Deserves blame/credit now



No more apologists. If his power is sometimes usurped, it doesn’t matter. By re-signing for another three years, he’s clearly made it known he’s a company man. He knows the environment. If he wanted to put his own unique stamp on a team, he could have left. He now deserves to be linked to every move or non-move this team makes. No more excuses for him.





    The only reason Cashman signed on again with the Yankees is that he is a staunch vegeterian and his other job offer, McDonalds, refused to change the menu !  

8 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2014 - 1:21PM #26
qwik3457
Posts: 12,659

Oct 12, 2014 -- 9:58AM, BW26 wrote:


can't blame Cashman for the injuries or Mc Cann and Beltran under performing.But, who else is out there ? I said the  Yankees should have done something bold , making a statement and hiring the first  female  GM , Kim  Ng.




I don't think the Yanks should "make a statement". I think if the Yanks (Hal) thinks Cashman is doing a good job, he should stay, and if not, hire the best "man" for the job.

Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
8 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2014 - 1:24PM #27
qwik3457
Posts: 12,659

Oct 12, 2014 -- 4:01PM, BigGuy wrote:



There can be no more Cashman apologists


October 11, 2014 | 13 comments | in Featured | by SJK



We’ve been critical of Brian Cashman over the last two seasons, because he’s abandoned the philosophy he emphatically advocated earlier in his tenure.


Cashman in 2005:



“We have to get back to doing what made the Yankees so good for such a long period beginning in the ’90s,” said Cashman. “We’re in the position we’re in because we stopped developing our own young players.


“… storm clouds are on the horizon if we keep just staying old,” Cashman said. “You’ve got to reinvent yourself with youth and mix them in with the veterans, instead of going all veterans.”



What the hell happened to this?


Anyway, with the circus that is the Yankees’ front office, there’s always been questions whether player transactions are either “Cashman moves”, “Randy Levine moves”, or “Someone Else’s Moves.” For example, it was reported that Cashman did not want to sign Arod to a 10-year deal, wanted to be tougher re-negotiating Derek Jeter’s contracts, didn’t want Russell Martin to leave, etc. As a result of these reports, we (and others) sometimes cut Cashman some slack.


Well, no one can cut him any more slack. As we tweeted yesterday:




We (and NYY fans) have wondered if Cash has been overruled. He had the opportunity to leave again but re-signed. Deserves blame/credit now



No more apologists. If his power is sometimes usurped, it doesn’t matter. By re-signing for another three years, he’s clearly made it known he’s a company man. He knows the environment. If he wanted to put his own unique stamp on a team, he could have left. He now deserves to be linked to every move or non-move this team makes. No more excuses for him.





The who slant from NoMaas assumes that policy about willingness to rebuild and take a down year or three is set by Cashman. It almost certainly isn't. It is almost certainly set by the Hal, who wants to contend every year. As such, there will be no true rebuilding. As such, they will likely wander through the 1980's again, until they hit bottom, as in 1989-1990, and then they'll be forced to rebuild, as they were 25 years ago.

Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
8 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2014 - 1:29PM #28
Max
Posts: 42,830

Oct 11, 2014 -- 4:42PM, TonyG4 wrote:

I have no doubt in my mind, if the old man was still running the show, Cashman would have been gone long time ago. I don't know how he keeps hanging on and getting new contracts.

We have a terrible year and don't even make the playoffs, he gets a new 3 yr contract and his first move is to fire 2 coaches. Are they the reason we didn't make the playoffs, or was it because he as a GM, couldn't put the right pieces on the field.

Do we as fans, really think that the reason our offense was brutal, was because of the hitting coach? or the first base coach, or was this just a way for Cashman to justify his new contract, and fire a couple of guys and show he's the boss, and is putting the blame on others instead of looking in the mirror?.

You have a season like the Yankees had, and you don't fire the hitting coach and first base coach, you fire the GM, because the Mgr., fid the best with what the GM gave him. So I guess Hal has to answer for this also.

Yankees will never be the same without the Boss. RIP George!!! 




My guess is that Cashman keeps his job because ownership is putting the blame on the scouts. 

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8 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2014 - 1:52PM #29
nc01
Posts: 2,266

Oct 12, 2014 -- 10:48AM, BigGuy wrote:


It doesn't matter who's the GM as long as Hal and Levine are here. They set policy, not the GM. What they say goes, and neither are baseball guys. That's the problem in a nutshell. They have non-baseball guys making baseball decisions. Cashman or any other GM does not have last say in it. 





I think that you got it 100% Big.


NC...


 

8 years ago  ::  Oct 13, 2014 - 2:41PM #30
hampfan
Posts: 3,757

Oct 13, 2014 -- 1:52PM, nc01 wrote:


Oct 12, 2014 -- 10:48AM, BigGuy wrote:


It doesn't matter who's the GM as long as Hal and Levine are here. They set policy, not the GM. What they say goes, and neither are baseball guys. That's the problem in a nutshell. They have non-baseball guys making baseball decisions. Cashman or any other GM does not have last say in it. 





I think that you got it 100% Big.


NC...




And yet as someone remarked in an article or blog copied by Big Guy the other day, Cashman knows all this by now, surely, and so his signing for another three years puts all the onus on him to make this team sparkle and get younger doing it from here on out. Period.

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