Mar 13, 2018 -- 1:59PM, bigjeep8 wrote:

Mar 13, 2018 -- 1:42PM, RobS44 wrote:

Mar 13, 2018 -- 1:19PM, cookback444 wrote:

So, Cashmans' trades and drafts that GOT the Yankees to 1 game of the WS don't count FOR him, but the MIller trade (and I'm sure you can name others) count against him to the point of not trusting him ? 

For Cashman, the good news is that the only person whose trust matters is Hal.

George would have fired his ###!   

And he might well have traded Judge for some over 30 veteran the first time he struck out 4 times in a game.  So?  George is gone.  The only one Cashman has go keep happy is Hal.

Mar 13, 2018 -- 3:18PM, Bats wrote:

Mar 13, 2018 -- 12:16PM, Paterson wrote:

Mar 12, 2018 -- 3:44PM, newinn wrote:

Mar 12, 2018 -- 1:34PM, Paterson wrote:

Jun 20, 2016 -- 11:12AM, newinn wrote:

Jun 20, 2016 -- 11:08AM, luvdayanks wrote:

Jun 20, 2016 -- 10:32AM, 61in61 wrote:

Right now the Yanks are only 4 GB in the WC standings. With 6 weeks to go before the trade deadline its not quite time to be throwing in the towel. You can't rebuild the team by trading a two month rental of Beltran and Chapman. Aside from RF all the positions are filled.  Miller would net the most return but then they would have to find a closer for next year, which seems silly. Why try to fill one hole by making another one? Besides, I don't think any team will give up what the Yanks would want for Miller anyway.  Actually, if they wanted to improve they would DFA A-Rod, make Beltran the DH and trade for a good RF'er.

BINGO!!! I don't understand some of the thinking here when it comes to trades.

because you're not going to win now even with Miller on the roster and they have so many needs they're not going to win next year either. 

   I guess 2017 turned out better than you thougt it would.

it turned out much better then I thought but I also said I was looking forward to last season and it would be more exciting more than any other since 2009

    We were all wrong about 2017. That is why the Miller trade wasn't a good one and why I do not trust Cashman's judgement.  

What do you mean by "We?" 

Not me. Don't lump me in with your distorted thinking. I told people last season that the Yankees were a contender. 

I dare you to go back in these boards to prove me wrong. I dare you. 

There are only a few people whose judgement I trust. You are definitely not one of them. I think that all in all... Your done.

   The quote referred to the mindset of posters in August of 2016 when the Miller trade took place. Learn how to read, the reference is obvious. As for your brilliance in 2017, the Yankees had the second best record in baseball by June 1. Everyone knew they were a contender in 2017.

Mar 13, 2018 -- 1:19PM, cookback444 wrote:

So, Cashmans' trades and drafts that GOT the Yankees to 1 game of the WS don't count FOR him, but the MIller trade (and I'm sure you can name others) count against him to the point of not trusting him ? 

   If Cashman thought the drafts had gone well and the system was in good shape why was Newman retired and Roessler fired at the end of the summer in 2014 ? 

   Cashman gets credit for the Gregorius deal, the product of Trey Hillman and the great Gene Michael. But Cashman signed the deal so he gets the credit. But the guys who made the Yankees contenders in 2017 were Sanchez, Judge, Severino, Green and Tanaka. Only Green was a trade and the Yankees gave up a very good Justin Wilson to get him. 

   I don't distrust Cashman for trading Miller. I don't trust him because he was blind to the talent we had in August of 2016. There was no reason to throw in the towel. No one acquired in all the dealing he did had any impact on the major league roster. I hope some do, but to date they have not.