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Jorge Mateo
7 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2016 - 11:04AM #21
BigGuy
Posts: 66,015

Jul 7, 2016 -- 10:36AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 9:33AM, Raymond757 wrote:

the Yankees do seems to be a little slow in promoting players.





A lot slow, Ray. if Machado, Correa, Harper etc. were in the Yankees system they'd still all be at AAA.




Those guys are in a class way above anybody the Yankees have had in their farm system in many years. Everybody on the planet knew they were going to be studs. That's a product of those teams being bad and getting very high draft picks. 

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
7 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2016 - 11:15AM #22
luvdayanks
Posts: 31,514

Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:04AM, BigGuy wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 10:36AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 9:33AM, Raymond757 wrote:

the Yankees do seems to be a little slow in promoting players.





A lot slow, Ray. if Machado, Correa, Harper etc. were in the Yankees system they'd still all be at AAA.




Those guys are in a class way above anybody the Yankees have had in their farm system in many years. Everybody on the planet knew they were going to be studs. That's a product of those teams being bad and getting very high draft picks. 





True, I was being sarcastic, but you get my drift of the Yankees tendencies over the years to reluctantly bring up talent. The last I remember is Cano and Wang. It took forever to get Ref up and Judge is still  at AAA. In most cases Yankee prospects are brought up and they're 25-26 years old. It's time to take a chance, and I don't mean bringing them up for a week, play them one game and send them back down. The whole mentality on this, by the FO, is really screwed up.

7 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2016 - 11:20AM #23
bruner4329
Posts: 4,957

Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:04AM, BigGuy wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 10:36AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 9:33AM, Raymond757 wrote:

the Yankees do seems to be a little slow in promoting players.





A lot slow, Ray. if Machado, Correa, Harper etc. were in the Yankees system they'd still all be at AAA.




Those guys are in a class way above anybody the Yankees have had in their farm system in many years. Everybody on the planet knew they were going to be studs. That's a product of those teams being bad and getting very high draft picks. 




As well as us drafting poorly!!!

7 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2016 - 11:29AM #24
BigGuy
Posts: 66,015

Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:15AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:04AM, BigGuy wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 10:36AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 9:33AM, Raymond757 wrote:

the Yankees do seems to be a little slow in promoting players.





A lot slow, Ray. if Machado, Correa, Harper etc. were in the Yankees system they'd still all be at AAA.




Those guys are in a class way above anybody the Yankees have had in their farm system in many years. Everybody on the planet knew they were going to be studs. That's a product of those teams being bad and getting very high draft picks. 





True, I was being sarcastic, but you get my drift of the Yankees tendencies over the years to reluctantly bring up talent. The last I remember is Cano and Wang. It took forever to get Ref up and Judge is still  at AAA. In most cases Yankee prospects are brought up and they're 25-26 years old. It's time to take a chance, and I don't mean bringing them up for a week, play them one game and send them back down. The whole mentality on this, by the FO, is really screwed up.




At times they do hold some of their kids back for various reasons, but the are not the only team to do that. They have individual goals they set for each kid in their progress. You can certainly argue they've done a bad job developing the talent they have had and have drafted poorly to begin with. There are case though where they have moved kids fairly fast, and Montero and Severino pop in my head. Both were just turning 21 when they were already at AAA and were the youngest in the league. Sanchez was also very young for AAA. These guys were all clearly upper talent guys and deserved the promotion. I'm not arguing against Mateo being promoted, but his numbers this year have not been outstanding. He was clearly better last year. He's also blocked right now at Trenton because of Wade, who in turn is blocked at AAA. Personally I would dump the vets at AAA and give that kid the promotion and then that would open a spot for Mateo at Trenton, if they feel he deserves it. I also do think that sometimes they have thin skin in a situation like this. 

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
7 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2016 - 11:29AM #25
luvdayanks
Posts: 31,514

Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:20AM, bruner4329 wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:04AM, BigGuy wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 10:36AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 9:33AM, Raymond757 wrote:

the Yankees do seems to be a little slow in promoting players.





A lot slow, Ray. if Machado, Correa, Harper etc. were in the Yankees system they'd still all be at AAA.




Those guys are in a class way above anybody the Yankees have had in their farm system in many years. Everybody on the planet knew they were going to be studs. That's a product of those teams being bad and getting very high draft picks. 




As well as us drafting poorly!!!





Here are the #1 picks from the last 15 years. I don't think that's poor...not great but certainly not poor.

SEASON PLAYER POS SCHOOL/HOMETOWN PICK
2016 Blake Rutherford OF Chaminade College Prep (West Hills, Calif.) 18
2015 James Kaprielian RHP UCLA 16
2015 Kyle Holder SS San Diego 30
2013 Aaron Judge OF Fresno State 32
2013 Ian Clarkin LHP Madison High School, San Diego, Calif. 33
2013 Eric Jagielo 3B Notre Dame 26
2012 Ty Hensley RHP Edmond Santa Fe (Okla.) High School 30
2010 Cito Culver SS Irondequoit HS, Rochester, N.Y. 32
2009 Slade Heathcott OF Texas HS, Texarkana, Texas 29
2008 Gerrit Cole RHP Orange (Calif.) Lutheran H.S. 28
2007 Andrew Brackman RHP North Carolina State 30
2006 Ian Kennedy RHP Southern California 21
2005 Carl Henry SS Putnam City HS (OK) 17
2004 Philip Hughes RHP Foothill HS, Santa Ana, CA 23
2003 Eric Duncan 3B Seton Hall Prep (NJ) 27
2001 John-Ford Griffin OF Florida State U
7 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2016 - 11:29AM #26
BigGuy
Posts: 66,015

Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:20AM, bruner4329 wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:04AM, BigGuy wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 10:36AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 9:33AM, Raymond757 wrote:

the Yankees do seems to be a little slow in promoting players.





A lot slow, Ray. if Machado, Correa, Harper etc. were in the Yankees system they'd still all be at AAA.




Those guys are in a class way above anybody the Yankees have had in their farm system in many years. Everybody on the planet knew they were going to be studs. That's a product of those teams being bad and getting very high draft picks. 




As well as us drafting poorly!!!




Did you have to mention that? 

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
7 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2016 - 11:34AM #27
luvdayanks
Posts: 31,514

Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:30AM, BigGuy wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:29AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:20AM, bruner4329 wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:04AM, BigGuy wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 10:36AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 9:33AM, Raymond757 wrote:

the Yankees do seems to be a little slow in promoting players.





A lot slow, Ray. if Machado, Correa, Harper etc. were in the Yankees system they'd still all be at AAA.




Those guys are in a class way above anybody the Yankees have had in their farm system in many years. Everybody on the planet knew they were going to be studs. That's a product of those teams being bad and getting very high draft picks. 




As well as us drafting poorly!!!





Here are the #1 picks from the last 15 years. I don't think that's poor...not great but certainly not poor.

SEASON PLAYER POS SCHOOL/HOMETOWN PICK
2016 Blake Rutherford OF Chaminade College Prep (West Hills, Calif.) 18
2015 James Kaprielian RHP UCLA 16
2015 Kyle Holder SS San Diego 30
2013 Aaron Judge OF Fresno State 32
2013 Ian Clarkin LHP Madison High School, San Diego, Calif. 33
2013 Eric Jagielo 3B Notre Dame 26
2012 Ty Hensley RHP Edmond Santa Fe (Okla.) High School 30
2010 Cito Culver SS Irondequoit HS, Rochester, N.Y. 32
2009 Slade Heathcott OF Texas HS, Texarkana, Texas 29
2008 Gerrit Cole RHP Orange (Calif.) Lutheran H.S. 28
2007 Andrew Brackman RHP North Carolina State 30
2006 Ian Kennedy RHP Southern California 21
2005 Carl Henry SS Putnam City HS (OK) 17
2004 Philip Hughes RHP Foothill HS, Santa Ana, CA 23
2003 Eric Duncan 3B Seton Hall Prep (NJ) 27
2001 John-Ford Griffin OF Florida State U



Way to twist the knife. 





Just wait until Cito Culver makes it big, you'll all be eating crow. Laughing

7 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2016 - 11:37AM #28
BigGuy
Posts: 66,015

Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:34AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:30AM, BigGuy wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:29AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:20AM, bruner4329 wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 11:04AM, BigGuy wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 10:36AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Jul 7, 2016 -- 9:33AM, Raymond757 wrote:

the Yankees do seems to be a little slow in promoting players.





A lot slow, Ray. if Machado, Correa, Harper etc. were in the Yankees system they'd still all be at AAA.




Those guys are in a class way above anybody the Yankees have had in their farm system in many years. Everybody on the planet knew they were going to be studs. That's a product of those teams being bad and getting very high draft picks. 




As well as us drafting poorly!!!






 


Way to twist the knife. 





Just wait until Cito Culver makes it big, you'll all be eating crow. Laughing




You got that right. 

"Leave the gun. Take the cannoli."
7 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2016 - 12:09PM #29
BW26
Posts: 7,662

Jul 7, 2016 -- 7:46AM, TheLoon wrote:

We dump Levine Trost Cashman and Sterling before we dump this kid.




  Dump the others , yes. But Sterling does not deserve to be lumped with the others.

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7 years ago  ::  Jul 07, 2016 - 12:11PM #30
BW26
Posts: 7,662

Jul 7, 2016 -- 7:58AM, TheLoon wrote:

That might work. Levine and Trost scare easily.




then send Jonah after them.

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