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6 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2016 - 1:26AM #41
JonahFalcon
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Buck was waiting for Jack McDowell to get in uniform.

6 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2016 - 7:54AM #42
LiferYank
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Oct 5, 2016 -- 12:15AM, nystripes2 wrote:


Tonight by Buck was 100% a fireable offense, not using Britton should be his last move as O's manager. There's a reason teams win the WS when he leaves.




Yep guy hasnt given up a run since April.. Let that sink in... And with men on base in the 11th Buck leaves him rotting on the bench.. Unbelievable.



Boras client with 2 years left of Arb... If Buck remains manager i wouldnt be suprised if he wants to be traded.

6 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2016 - 8:13AM #43
bumper
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Oct 5, 2016 -- 7:54AM, LiferYank wrote:


Oct 5, 2016 -- 12:15AM, nystripes2 wrote:


Tonight by Buck was 100% a fireable offense, not using Britton should be his last move as O's manager. There's a reason teams win the WS when he leaves.




Yep guy hasnt given up a run since April.. Let that sink in... And with men on base in the 11th Buck leaves him rotting on the bench.. Unbelievable.




agree fireable. made girardi look like a genius with that move. britton has GOT to get into that game. bring him in the 9th and hopefully he can go 2 innings. still tied you still have brach & o'day before you get into the "other" guys. remember 2003 game 7 against the roid sux, torre had mo pitch 9, 10 & 11. you try to stretch out the game as long as you can with your best. you can't risk giving away the game before then. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!


let's go texas!!

6 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2016 - 10:47AM #44
NYYGuy
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2010: SF Giants win the World Series


2011: SF Giants miss the playoffs


2012: SF Giants win the World Series


2013: SF Giants miss the playoffs


2014: SF Giants win the World Series


2015: SF Giants miss the playoffs


2016: ... Hmm!



Should be a great pitching matchup tonight anyway.

6 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2016 - 10:58AM #45
NYYGuy
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nypost.com/2016/10/05/all-the-reasons-bu...


Kind of like Weaver over Rivera, 2003 World Series. Yell

6 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2016 - 11:38AM #46
luvdayanks
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Oct 5, 2016 -- 12:15AM, nystripes2 wrote:


Tonight by Buck was 100% a fireable offense, not using Britton should be his last move as O's manager. There's a reason teams win the WS when he leaves.





I hope all the fire Girard haters and Showalter adorers are paying attention. How many times on this board have we seen the praises of Showalter and this is one of the reasons he's won squat.

6 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2016 - 1:13PM #47
bumper
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Oct 5, 2016 -- 11:38AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Oct 5, 2016 -- 12:15AM, nystripes2 wrote:


Tonight by Buck was 100% a fireable offense, not using Britton should be his last move as O's manager. There's a reason teams win the WS when he leaves.





I hope all the fire Girard haters and Showalter adorers are paying attention. How many times on this board have we seen the praises of Showalter and this is one of the reasons he's won squat.




clearly he was stubbornly clinging to the old adage that you don't bring your closer into a tie game on the road and had faith (blind) that the other guys would get it done. WRONG! girardi take note ;-)

6 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2016 - 1:27PM #48
JonahFalcon
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Oct 5, 2016 -- 10:58AM, NYYGuy wrote:


nypost.com/2016/10/05/all-the-reasons-bu...


Kind of like Weaver over Rivera, 2003 World Series.



More like Jack McDowell over John Wetteland, by the same manager.

6 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2016 - 2:18PM #49
qwik3457
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Oct 4, 2016 -- 11:46PM, NYYGuy wrote:

Girardi's binder told Buck to leave Britton on the pine and bring in Jimenez.



Maybe Girardi's tactics aren't as unusual as people think.


In fact, Buck's decision to not use Britton and to lose with lesser relievers is far less defensible than just about any mistake Girardi made this year, including going to Betances in Boston, because:


1) Britton is a vastly superior pitcher to either Duensing or Jimenez


2) Jimenez is a starter working in relief for the first time in 7 weeks


3) Britton had a day off before that game


4) He would've gotten another day off after the game


Now, thanks to Buck's blunder, he'll get the next 130 days off.

Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
6 years ago  ::  Oct 05, 2016 - 2:34PM #50
qwik3457
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Oct 5, 2016 -- 1:27PM, JonahFalcon wrote:


Oct 5, 2016 -- 10:58AM, NYYGuy wrote:


nypost.com/2016/10/05/all-the-reasons-bu...


Kind of like Weaver over Rivera, 2003 World Series.




More like Jack McDowell over John Wetteland, by the same manager.




Nothing like that; Wetteland had gotten his boobies knocked off by the Mariners in that series.


The got him for 3 hits, a BB and two earned runs in game 1. He pitched 3 1/3 innings in game 2, and pitched well until the 12th, when he gave up a go ahead HR to Griffey, Jr. Sierra's RBI double in the botton of the 12th bailed him out before Leyritz' HR won it. The day before game 5, Wetteland came into a tie game in the 8th, walked Coleman, Cora bunted for a hit, he hit Griffey with a pitch and Edgar Martinez belted the eventual game-winning grand slam, all within 15 pitches, and took the loss. 


Coming into game 5, Wetteland had an ERA over 14 in that series, with 8 hits and 2 HR in 4 1/3 innings. Quite understandable that Buck didn't trust him with the season on the line in game 5.


Britton hadn't allowed a run since April.  47 saves with a single blown save the whole year. Seven scoreless appearances against the Jays this year including 5 saves. Not nearly the same thing.


Knowledge is Good -- Emil Faber
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