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5 years ago  ::  Dec 11, 2017 - 10:57AM #21
Max
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Dec 11, 2017 -- 10:55AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Dec 11, 2017 -- 10:51AM, Max wrote:


Dec 11, 2017 -- 10:49AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Dec 11, 2017 -- 10:44AM, Max wrote:


Screw that giving up quality prospects idea. The Yankees willing to pay half or so of Els' contract in return for a second or third tier minor league player is fair enough. 


As far as if Els would waive his no trade clause, he knows that he has two choices. Stay with the Yankees on the bench or be in the line up every day for another team. My guess is that he accepts a trade. 




Would you be pleased with your team if they got a 34 year old Ellsbury at $11.5 million a year for the next 3 seasons?




Yes, if he was the best option. 11.5 or so isn't what it used to be in MLB money. 




That's Brett Gardner money.  There are only 21 outfielders in baseball making that much and they are all better than Ellsbury.  The average is less than $4 million.  Sometimes teams will over pay for a name, is he a draw off of name recognition?




But not all of them are available. Take a look at the SFG outfield and tell me Els is not an upgrade. 

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5 years ago  ::  Dec 11, 2017 - 11:02AM #22
louisiana_lightning
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Dec 11, 2017 -- 10:57AM, Max wrote:


Dec 11, 2017 -- 10:55AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Dec 11, 2017 -- 10:51AM, Max wrote:


Dec 11, 2017 -- 10:49AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:


Dec 11, 2017 -- 10:44AM, Max wrote:


Screw that giving up quality prospects idea. The Yankees willing to pay half or so of Els' contract in return for a second or third tier minor league player is fair enough. 


As far as if Els would waive his no trade clause, he knows that he has two choices. Stay with the Yankees on the bench or be in the line up every day for another team. My guess is that he accepts a trade. 




Would you be pleased with your team if they got a 34 year old Ellsbury at $11.5 million a year for the next 3 seasons?




Yes, if he was the best option. 11.5 or so isn't what it used to be in MLB money. 




That's Brett Gardner money.  There are only 21 outfielders in baseball making that much and they are all better than Ellsbury.  The average is less than $4 million.  Sometimes teams will over pay for a name, is he a draw off of name recognition?




But not all of them are available. Take a look at the SFG outfield and tell me Els is not an upgrade. 




I think they have to sweeten the deal.  Trade Ellsbury and Gardner and eat all of Gardner's contract or trade Ellsbury and Frazier and eat half of Ellsbury's contract.  Otherwise I think if Ells was a free agent he would get about $5 annually for a 3 year deal and teams would pay more for less years.

5 years ago  ::  Dec 11, 2017 - 11:13AM #23
louisiana_lightning
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The Yankees should bundle Ellsbury with Robertson.  We need Houdini but won't give him another long term deal after the season so he may be enough to make a team eat more of Ellsbury's money.

5 years ago  ::  Dec 11, 2017 - 11:20AM #24
kyloren
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Dec 11, 2017 -- 10:22AM, Bats wrote:

They say that Seattle is the best fit for Ellsbury, being that he lives near the area and would likely waive his NTC. That location is the best and first place to start with. Gosh, I hate the idea that the Yankees are willing to eat half of that contract. Whoever's idea was it to sign Ellsbury, in the first place, should be the one to fit that bill. With the Yankees willing to pay half (or so), they won't need to attach any prospects to it.



you make good trades and bad trades but Cashman has made mostly good trades over the years. 

5 years ago  ::  Dec 11, 2017 - 11:23AM #25
bigjeep
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Dec 11, 2017 -- 11:20AM, kyloren wrote:


Dec 11, 2017 -- 10:22AM, Bats wrote:

They say that Seattle is the best fit for Ellsbury, being that he lives near the area and would likely waive his NTC. That location is the best and first place to start with. Gosh, I hate the idea that the Yankees are willing to eat half of that contract. Whoever's idea was it to sign Ellsbury, in the first place, should be the one to fit that bill. With the Yankees willing to pay half (or so), they won't need to attach any prospects to it.



you make good trades and bad trades but Cashman has made mostly good trades over the years. 




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5 years ago  ::  Dec 11, 2017 - 11:39AM #26
Lola
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Dec 11, 2017 -- 10:49AM, Max wrote:


If Els doesn't go the the Mariners because of Gordon, my guess would be the Giants trade for him.




My fantasy is to somehow get Bumgarner.... CASHMAN!!!Laughing

5 years ago  ::  Dec 11, 2017 - 11:47AM #27
dixieyank
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I think they have much better time trading Hicks and/or Gardner.


I don't see anyone wanting Ells even at half price. Hopefully he bounces back and you can trade him next offseason.


I'd move Hicks for sure, and probably Gardner as well. Let Ells have a shot at redemption, and if not you have Frazier waiting. Don't they also have Cave and McKinney too?

5 years ago  ::  Dec 11, 2017 - 11:51AM #28
louisiana_lightning
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Dec 11, 2017 -- 11:47AM, dixieyank wrote:


I think they have much better time trading Hicks and/or Gardner.


I don't see anyone wanting Ells even at half price. Hopefully he bounces back and you can trade him next offseason.


I'd move Hicks for sure, and probably Gardner as well. Let Ells have a shot at redemption, and if not you have Frazier waiting. Don't they also have Cave and McKinney too?




What's the point of trading Hicks?  He is not being paid anything so it doesn't help us with the luxury tax.  I think we have to keep Hicks or Gardner for versatility.

5 years ago  ::  Dec 11, 2017 - 12:02PM #29
dixieyank
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Dec 11, 2017 -- 11:51AM, louisiana_lightning wrote:



What's the point of trading Hicks?  He is not being paid anything so it doesn't help us with the luxury tax.  I think we have to keep Hicks or Gardner for versatility.




Roster space, logjam in the OF, and the fact he is infinitely more movable than Ellsbury. Add to that, I think his stock is as high as it will ever be, as I think he regresses to the mean if they keep him.


He made $1.35m last year coming off a -0.3 WAR. What's he get after coming off a 3.9 WAR in 2017?


5 years ago  ::  Dec 11, 2017 - 12:21PM #30
newinn
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with all of the roster changes and the youth and the management changes, I've read that Gardner played a huge leadership role in the Yankee clubhouse. I'd be careful in being so quick to unload him

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