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Bird or Voit?
4 years ago  ::  Mar 11, 2019 - 8:42PM #41
nost
Posts: 324

Best player already won.  Bird has done nothing in 5 years why should he even get the job after a good spring training?  


If Volt fails I'd still look elsewehre besides Bird.  Another guys Cashman loves like the one in LF that can't hit himself outta paper bag.

4 years ago  ::  Mar 11, 2019 - 9:20PM #42
jimwest
Posts: 5,263

Mar 10, 2019 -- 7:53PM, SSBob wrote:


Mar 10, 2019 -- 7:45PM, bumper wrote:


Mar 10, 2019 -- 7:27PM, SSBob wrote:


Mar 10, 2019 -- 7:05PM, CHL59 wrote:


I don't get why the Yankees are so high on the guy...




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Yes...you've made that very clear. Repeatedly.




yup a skip in the record ... expecting a fair competition over the next 2 weeks or so and the best man will win. 




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As I've said many times, I've been in Bird's corner all along, having watched him play since HS. No doubt he's had some tough breaks but, yeah, he has to produce, and Voit has been impressive in the short time he's been with the Yanks. I agree 100% with you...the best man should, and will, win.


That said, we can be sure that the boo birds on either side of the fence will be merciless if whoever gets the job gets off to a slow start.




Bobby, regardless of who ends up being the starter, with the other possibly at SWB, he will need to produce. If Voit stays and is getting figured out by the better AL pitchers, he won't last. If Bird at SWB is doing well, and is healthy, I believe he will be brought up. This team badly needs a LH stick.


Voit has been referred to as possibly another Shane Spencer, which is all he may be. He will have to hit and field well for a lot longer than a couple of months for me to think he is anything special. The Cardinals are one of MLB's best franchises, and they gave him away for little.


Bird may not pan out long term either, whether due to lack of production of health. The Yanks will probably give both of them this year to fish or cut bait. If not, the Yankees will be in the market for a first baseman after this season.

4 years ago  ::  Mar 11, 2019 - 10:02PM #43
SSBob
Posts: 12,791

Mar 11, 2019 -- 9:20PM, jimwest wrote:


Bobby, regardless of who ends up being the starter, with the other possibly at SWB, he will need to produce. If Voit stays and is getting figured out by the better AL pitchers, he won't last. If Bird at SWB is doing well, and is healthy, I believe he will be brought up. This team badly needs a LH stick.


Voit has been referred to as possibly another Shane Spencer, which is all he may be. He will have to hit and field well for a lot longer than a couple of months for me to think he is anything special. The Cardinals are one of MLB's best franchises, and they gave him away for little.


Bird may not pan out long term either, whether due to lack of production of health. The Yanks will probably give both of them this year to fish or cut bait. If not, the Yankees will be in the market for a first baseman after this season.




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Hey Jim...yes, whoever wins the starting job will need to produce. As I said, the boo birds will be out for either should one get off to a slow start. But, as "bumper" pointed out, it'll be much rougher for Bird if he's the one.


First and foremost I want what's best for the team, so I'm not neccessarily "rooting" for one over the other. I do however believe Bird will become an upper echelon player, and if he gets off to a good start and builds his confidence, and that of the fans, he'll thrive in NY. If not, I think it'd be best for him to get a fresh start with another team. If that's the case, I'd like to see him go "home" to The Rockies, although they've got good prospects in Ryan McMahon & Josh Fuentes; Tyler Nevin (Phil's kid) and Grant Lavigne are probably 2-3 years away.


But again, I'm for whatever's best for the Yanks. If Voit gets it done...great!



4 years ago  ::  Mar 12, 2019 - 2:51PM #44
qimqam
Posts: 469

I was at the game on Sunday ... watching bird closely. 


He can't hit a fastball. 

4 years ago  ::  Mar 12, 2019 - 2:53PM #45
nost
Posts: 324

Mar 12, 2019 -- 2:51PM, qimqam wrote:


I was at the game on Sunday ... watching bird closely. 


He can't hit a fastball. 




and it's only spring training nobdy is even throwing 100 yet.

4 years ago  ::  Mar 12, 2019 - 2:56PM #46
tonythewiz
Posts: 146

Mar 12, 2019 -- 2:53PM, nost wrote:


Mar 12, 2019 -- 2:51PM, qimqam wrote:


I was at the game on Sunday ... watching bird closely. 


He can't hit a fastball. 




and it's only spring training nobdy is even throwing 100 yet.



I watch Bird last year and he couldn't catch up to a good pitchers fastball. And if you can't hit a fastball in the Majors than you shouldn't be on the roster. 

4 years ago  ::  Mar 12, 2019 - 3:12PM #47
Paterson
Posts: 9,146

    There are not a lot of guys who hit well located fastballs moving 100 mph. There were reports that you could beat Voit up and in if you could get to 95 mph. Every batter has a kryptonite. I just want to see Bird crush the mistakes.

4 years ago  ::  Mar 12, 2019 - 3:26PM #48
tonythewiz
Posts: 146

Mar 12, 2019 -- 3:12PM, Paterson wrote:


    There are not a lot of guys who hit well located fastballs moving 100 mph. There were reports that you could beat Voit up and in if you could get to 95 mph. Every batter has a kryptonite. I just want to see Bird crush the mistakes.



I watch Bird last year and fastballs right down the middle he couldn't hit. He was way better hitting a curve ball especially a low curve ball. But fastball right down the middle and most of the time he couldn't even foul the ball off. And then you seen his reaction when he went back to the dugout. You seen the disgust all over his face. Is it in his head I don't know. But right now he could hit in Spring Training but as soon at the real season begins the Bird funk will begin.  

4 years ago  ::  Mar 12, 2019 - 3:39PM #49
nost
Posts: 324

It's been 5 years move on already.

4 years ago  ::  Mar 12, 2019 - 4:27PM #50
qimqam
Posts: 469

Mar 12, 2019 -- 3:12PM, Paterson wrote:


    There are not a lot of guys who hit well located fastballs moving 100 mph. There were reports that you could beat Voit up and in if you could get to 95 mph. Every batter has a kryptonite. I just want to see Bird crush the mistakes.




I'm not talking about 95 mph fastballs ...i'm talking low 90s

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