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Per YES Twitter:
Brian Cashman: Luis Severino will not pitch in a Major League game until at least May 1.
The scariest two words there are, of course, "at least."
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How arguing with you over a rotation that's not very stable ones gotta shake their heads.
If the playoff were today they'd lose.
Yankees need SP help which ever way you wanna see it argue it. But some around here instead of you three see it for what it is. They need help beside AAA SP. Thank you =)
Again, another weak argument. 1. If the playoffs were TODAY you might be right... but that is largely because the ace is injured. Then again, if the playoffs were TODAY, Severino probably wouldn't be shut down. 2. If we have Sev, Paxton, Masa and Happ all healthy when the playoffs DO start, any attempt to say we authority that we would lose is foolish. We'd have as good a shot with that quartet as any team would. 3. The playoffs DON'T start today. If the 4 guys I mentioned don't see to be healthy, there is TIME to make a move to address the situation. Point 3 is what makes debating this with you so aggrevating. You absolutely, 100% refuse to acknowledge the reality that the trade deadline exists to shore up weaknesses that emerge during the course of the season. If you can't even admit that then it is like talking to a brick wall. And at the end of the day we aren't really debating the quality of the rotation. We're debating a general outlook on the team: This is a debate between a positive/rational mindset when looking at the team and a overly negative mindset.
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Please note: I'm arguing against your post, not against you as a person. I respect your right to have a different opinion even if I completely disagree with every word you wrote.
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How arguing with you over a rotation that's not very stable ones gotta shake their heads. If the playoff were today they'd lose. Yankees need SP help which ever way you wanna see it argue it. But some around here instead of you three see it for what it is. They need help beside AAA SP. Thank you =)
Again, another weak argument.
1. If the playoffs were TODAY you might be right... but that is largely because the ace is injured. Then again, if the playoffs were TODAY, Severino probably wouldn't be shut down.
2. If we have Sev, Paxton, Masa and Happ all healthy when the playoffs DO start, any attempt to say we authority that we would lose is foolish. We'd have as good a shot with that quartet as any team would.
3. The playoffs DON'T start today. If the 4 guys I mentioned don't see to be healthy, there is TIME to make a move to address the situation.
Point 3 is what makes debating this with you so aggrevating. You absolutely, 100% refuse to acknowledge the reality that the trade deadline exists to shore up weaknesses that emerge during the course of the season. If you can't even admit that then it is like talking to a brick wall.
And at the end of the day we aren't really debating the quality of the rotation. We're debating a general outlook on the team: This is a debate between a positive/rational mindset when looking at the team and a overly negative mindset.
Well, since you've already posited an absolute equivalency between a. a positive attitude regarding the Yankees state of readiness and b. rational thinking there's really not much wiggle room there to offer any opinions other than those in lock-step with your own. Sounds like there's a wrinkled old Hillary bumper sticker on your hybrid.
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How arguing with you over a rotation that's not very stable ones gotta shake their heads. If the playoff were today they'd lose. Yankees need SP help which ever way you wanna see it argue it. But some around here instead of you three see it for what it is. They need help beside AAA SP. Thank you =)
Again, another weak argument.
1. If the playoffs were TODAY you might be right... but that is largely because the ace is injured. Then again, if the playoffs were TODAY, Severino probably wouldn't be shut down.
2. If we have Sev, Paxton, Masa and Happ all healthy when the playoffs DO start, any attempt to say we authority that we would lose is foolish. We'd have as good a shot with that quartet as any team would.
3. The playoffs DON'T start today. If the 4 guys I mentioned don't see to be healthy, there is TIME to make a move to address the situation.
Point 3 is what makes debating this with you so aggrevating. You absolutely, 100% refuse to acknowledge the reality that the trade deadline exists to shore up weaknesses that emerge during the course of the season. If you can't even admit that then it is like talking to a brick wall.
And at the end of the day we aren't really debating the quality of the rotation. We're debating a general outlook on the team: This is a debate between a positive/rational mindset when looking at the team and a overly negative mindset.
Well, since you've already posited an absolute equivalency between
a. a positive attitude regarding the Yankees state of readiness and
b. rational thinking
there's really not much wiggle room there to offer any opinions other than those in lock-step with your own. Sounds like there's a wrinkled old Hillary bumper sticker on your hybrid.
Hey, if the truth fits... It's funny how often that overlap exists between people who are extremely negative and people who are completely irrational. "If the playoffs started now..." is an irrational way to start a debate. They don't. They've never started in March and they never will start in March. They don't even start before July 31st, which means that any attempt to paint the current team as being locked in as the team they're going to war with in OCTOBER is again, irrational. There's time to add pieces and the team's history shows that they will add pieces at the deadline.
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Please note: I'm arguing against your post, not against you as a person. I respect your right to have a different opinion even if I completely disagree with every word you wrote.
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How arguing with you over a rotation that's not very stable ones gotta shake their heads. If the playoff were today they'd lose. Yankees need SP help which ever way you wanna see it argue it. But some around here instead of you three see it for what it is. They need help beside AAA SP. Thank you =)
Again, another weak argument. 1. If the playoffs were TODAY you might be right... but that is largely because the ace is injured. Then again, if the playoffs were TODAY, Severino probably wouldn't be shut down. 2. If we have Sev, Paxton, Masa and Happ all healthy when the playoffs DO start, any attempt to say we authority that we would lose is foolish. We'd have as good a shot with that quartet as any team would. 3. The playoffs DON'T start today. If the 4 guys I mentioned don't see to be healthy, there is TIME to make a move to address the situation. Point 3 is what makes debating this with you so aggrevating. You absolutely, 100% refuse to acknowledge the reality that the trade deadline exists to shore up weaknesses that emerge during the course of the season. If you can't even admit that then it is like talking to a brick wall. And at the end of the day we aren't really debating the quality of the rotation. We're debating a general outlook on the team: This is a debate between a positive/rational mindset when looking at the team and a overly negative mindset.
Well, since you've already posited an absolute equivalency between a. a positive attitude regarding the Yankees state of readiness and b. rational thinking there's really not much wiggle room there to offer any opinions other than those in lock-step with your own. Sounds like there's a wrinkled old Hillary bumper sticker on your hybrid.
Hey, if the truth fits...
It's funny how often that overlap exists between people who are extremely negative and people who are completely irrational.
"If the playoffs started now..." is an irrational way to start a debate. They don't. They've never started in March and they never will start in March. They don't even start before July 31st, which means that any attempt to paint the current team as being locked in as the team they're going to war with in OCTOBER is again, irrational. There's time to add pieces and the team's history shows that they will add pieces at the deadline.
Just proved you wrong Servino out till May. You wanna keep on going? You wanna argue the fact they Still don't need SP. What's else you wanna bet?
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How arguing with you over a rotation that's not very stable ones gotta shake their heads. If the playoff were today they'd lose. Yankees need SP help which ever way you wanna see it argue it. But some around here instead of you three see it for what it is. They need help beside AAA SP. Thank you =)
Again, another weak argument. 1. If the playoffs were TODAY you might be right... but that is largely because the ace is injured. Then again, if the playoffs were TODAY, Severino probably wouldn't be shut down. 2. If we have Sev, Paxton, Masa and Happ all healthy when the playoffs DO start, any attempt to say we authority that we would lose is foolish. We'd have as good a shot with that quartet as any team would. 3. The playoffs DON'T start today. If the 4 guys I mentioned don't see to be healthy, there is TIME to make a move to address the situation. Point 3 is what makes debating this with you so aggrevating. You absolutely, 100% refuse to acknowledge the reality that the trade deadline exists to shore up weaknesses that emerge during the course of the season. If you can't even admit that then it is like talking to a brick wall. And at the end of the day we aren't really debating the quality of the rotation. We're debating a general outlook on the team: This is a debate between a positive/rational mindset when looking at the team and a overly negative mindset.
Well, since you've already posited an absolute equivalency between a. a positive attitude regarding the Yankees state of readiness and b. rational thinking there's really not much wiggle room there to offer any opinions other than those in lock-step with your own. Sounds like there's a wrinkled old Hillary bumper sticker on your hybrid.
Hey, if the truth fits... It's funny how often that overlap exists between people who are extremely negative and people who are completely irrational. "If the playoffs started now..." is an irrational way to start a debate. They don't. They've never started in March and they never will start in March. They don't even start before July 31st, which means that any attempt to paint the current team as being locked in as the team they're going to war with in OCTOBER is again, irrational. There's time to add pieces and the team's history shows that they will add pieces at the deadline.
Just proved you wrong Servino out till May. You wanna keep on going? You wanna argue the fact they Still don't need SP. What's else you wanna bet?
This isn't news, dude... We knew he was going to miss the first month 2 weeks ago. This is just Cashman confirming it. You're acting like he's suffered a set back. By the way... way to ignore everything else I said and try to post a "gotcha" comment. Can we please try to have a linear conversation? If I make a point, respond to that point.
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Please note: I'm arguing against your post, not against you as a person. I respect your right to have a different opinion even if I completely disagree with every word you wrote.
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He's out till May. This could be real bad and he actually might not be back this season or maybe July. Who knows at this point. It's a shame what the rotation is I'm truly dissapointed. Maybe he'll be stronger in Sept
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He's out till May. This could be real bad and he actually might not be back this season or maybe July. Who knows at this point. It's a shame what the rotation is I'm truly dissapointed.
Maybe he'll be stronger in Sept
Thank you for perfectly illustrating my point that the debate here is a question of rationality. There's no reason to assume he's going to miss the entire season.
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Please note: I'm arguing against your post, not against you as a person. I respect your right to have a different opinion even if I completely disagree with every word you wrote.
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I don't think this pitching staff has enough innings in them to win the division.
I think you're a much more reasonable poster than some of the folks complaining about the pitching, so I'll address this to you. You're probably right. The current starting rotation probably isn't going to be enough... and that isn't really a problem. Teams don't build "World Series Caliber" rotations entering spring training, and even if they do intend to they are still probably going to end up needing help by the trade deadline.
Think about it. The Red Sox needed to go out and add Eovaldi last year. The Astros needed to get Verlander. The Royals traded for Cueto in 2015. There's plenty of examples.
The best strategy seems to be to bring a good rotation to camp with some depth to hold the team over during minor injuries, then to make a trade at the deadline to reinforce. I believe the Yankees have the first two componenets of this strategy. They'll add at the deadline if they have to.
No team is perfect and every team makes some adjustments. I would have been happier if the Yankees spent the money they did on starting pitching rather than a couple of short relievers and a super utility guy. You always overspend when you go to the free agent market...free agents sign with the team willing to pay the most, not the average. The question centers on what you are willing to overspend on. Entire bullpens collapse once they are overworked. Even a horse like Betances is not going to give you more than 80 innings or so. The combined total of Britton, Ottavino and Betances might not equal what Severino alone pitched in 2018. That is why I would be willing to overpay for starting pitching...either on the free agent market or in trades. If Severino is out or worse, if his shoulder is damaged, there is no replacement. For 2019 the Yankees might have to both get a retread or two off the free agent market and get lucky with some of their own stepping up.
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How arguing with you over a rotation that's not very stable ones gotta shake their heads. If the playoff were today they'd lose. Yankees need SP help which ever way you wanna see it argue it. But some around here instead of you three see it for what it is. They need help beside AAA SP. Thank you =)
Again, another weak argument. 1. If the playoffs were TODAY you might be right... but that is largely because the ace is injured. Then again, if the playoffs were TODAY, Severino probably wouldn't be shut down. 2. If we have Sev, Paxton, Masa and Happ all healthy when the playoffs DO start, any attempt to say we authority that we would lose is foolish. We'd have as good a shot with that quartet as any team would. 3. The playoffs DON'T start today. If the 4 guys I mentioned don't see to be healthy, there is TIME to make a move to address the situation. Point 3 is what makes debating this with you so aggrevating. You absolutely, 100% refuse to acknowledge the reality that the trade deadline exists to shore up weaknesses that emerge during the course of the season. If you can't even admit that then it is like talking to a brick wall. And at the end of the day we aren't really debating the quality of the rotation. We're debating a general outlook on the team: This is a debate between a positive/rational mindset when looking at the team and a overly negative mindset.
Well, since you've already posited an absolute equivalency between a. a positive attitude regarding the Yankees state of readiness and b. rational thinking there's really not much wiggle room there to offer any opinions other than those in lock-step with your own. Sounds like there's a wrinkled old Hillary bumper sticker on your hybrid.
Hey, if the truth fits...
It's funny how often that overlap exists between people who are extremely negative and people who are completely irrational.
"If the playoffs started now..." is an irrational way to start a debate. They don't. They've never started in March and they never will start in March. They don't even start before July 31st, which means that any attempt to paint the current team as being locked in as the team they're going to war with in OCTOBER is again, irrational. There's time to add pieces and the team's history shows that they will add pieces at the deadline.
And at the end of the day we aren't really debating the quality of the rotation. We're debating a general outlook on the team: This is a debate between a positive/rational mindset when looking at the team and a overly negative mindset.
Well, since you've already posited an absolute equivalency between a. a positive attitude regarding the Yankees state of readiness and b. rational thinking there's really not much wiggle room there to offer any opinions other than those in lock-step with your own. Sounds like there's a wrinkled old Hillary bumper sticker on your hybrid. .......... Hey, if the truth fits... It's funny how often that overlap exists between people who are extremely negative and people who are completely irrational. ..........
Well, there you go again. With the arrogance to assume that your beliefs are indisputable and that those of others which differ from your own are the product of a weak and lazy mind. I've seen this kind of thinking before. Come on, 'fess up about that bumper sticker.
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