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5 years ago  ::  Apr 08, 2019 - 9:39PM #11
yanksbest
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Time to sign Dallas Keichel. Otherwise, the playoffs will be a quick exit.

5 years ago  ::  Apr 08, 2019 - 10:23PM #12
crush41
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Season is already over
5 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2019 - 12:21AM #13
davis2
Posts: 19,230

Apr 8, 2019 -- 10:23PM, crush41 wrote:

Season is already over


You took a wrong turn... SOSH is in Bahston

5 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2019 - 11:44AM #14
luvdayanks
Posts: 31,836

Apr 8, 2019 -- 9:39PM, yanksbest wrote:


Time to sign Dallas Keichel. Otherwise, the playoffs will be a quick exit.




Do yourself a favor before naming Keuchle as a savior  and check out his record and especially  in the playoffs the last couple  of years. 2017 playoffs 11 earned runs in 26 innings, 2018 4 in 2 innings.He's not 2015 Dallas  Keuchel anymore  .

5 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2019 - 12:10PM #15
Stewie
Posts: 2,450

Apr 9, 2019 -- 11:44AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Apr 8, 2019 -- 9:39PM, yanksbest wrote:


Time to sign Dallas Keichel. Otherwise, the playoffs will be a quick exit.




Do yourself a favor before naming Keuchle as a savior  and check out his record and especially  in the playoffs the last couple  of years. 2017 playoffs 11 earned runs in 26 innings, 2018 4 in 2 innings.He's not 2015 Dallas  Keuchel anymore  .




Uhhh, what I think we may have here is your basic Pineda-type situation.  A flashy start, all kinds of "potential," but then a drab so-so history, mostly due to shoulder injuries and a slow recovery; never the same again

5 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2019 - 12:17PM #16
RobS44
Posts: 5,608

Apr 9, 2019 -- 12:10PM, Stewie wrote:


Apr 9, 2019 -- 11:44AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Apr 8, 2019 -- 9:39PM, yanksbest wrote:


Time to sign Dallas Keichel. Otherwise, the playoffs will be a quick exit.




Do yourself a favor before naming Keuchle as a savior  and check out his record and especially  in the playoffs the last couple  of years. 2017 playoffs 11 earned runs in 26 innings, 2018 4 in 2 innings.He's not 2015 Dallas  Keuchel anymore  .




Uhhh, what I think we may have here is your basic Pineda-type situation.  A flashy start, all kinds of "potential," but then a drab so-so history, mostly due to shoulder injuries and a slow recovery; never the same again




are you referrng to Severino?

5 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2019 - 12:19PM #17
ArtVandelay
Posts: 34,732

Bummer, last season on a Sunday night game whoever was announcing said Severino was the guy he would pick if he needed a starter in a big game (over Sale, Scherzer, Kershaw) - now the guy's career is in jeopardy and I doubt we see him anytime soon, how quick things change....

5 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2019 - 12:20PM #18
Stewie
Posts: 2,450

Apr 9, 2019 -- 12:17PM, RobS44 wrote:


Apr 9, 2019 -- 12:10PM, Stewie wrote:


Apr 9, 2019 -- 11:44AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Apr 8, 2019 -- 9:39PM, yanksbest wrote:


Time to sign Dallas Keichel. Otherwise, the playoffs will be a quick exit.




Do yourself a favor before naming Keuchle as a savior  and check out his record and especially  in the playoffs the last couple  of years. 2017 playoffs 11 earned runs in 26 innings, 2018 4 in 2 innings.He's not 2015 Dallas  Keuchel anymore  .




Uhhh, what I think we may have here is your basic Pineda-type situation.  A flashy start, all kinds of "potential," but then a drab so-so history, mostly due to shoulder injuries and a slow recovery; never the same again




are you referrng to Severino?




Right, Severino, not Keuchel.  Keuchel's just over and done with.

5 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2019 - 12:53PM #19
RobS44
Posts: 5,608

Apr 9, 2019 -- 12:20PM, Stewie wrote:


Apr 9, 2019 -- 12:17PM, RobS44 wrote:


Apr 9, 2019 -- 12:10PM, Stewie wrote:


Apr 9, 2019 -- 11:44AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Apr 8, 2019 -- 9:39PM, yanksbest wrote:


Time to sign Dallas Keichel. Otherwise, the playoffs will be a quick exit.




Do yourself a favor before naming Keuchle as a savior  and check out his record and especially  in the playoffs the last couple  of years. 2017 playoffs 11 earned runs in 26 innings, 2018 4 in 2 innings.He's not 2015 Dallas  Keuchel anymore  .




Uhhh, what I think we may have here is your basic Pineda-type situation.  A flashy start, all kinds of "potential," but then a drab so-so history, mostly due to shoulder injuries and a slow recovery; never the same again




are you referrng to Severino?




Right, Severino, not Keuchel.  Keuchel's just over and done with.




Not really a valid comparison.  Pineda had the one very good half season when he first came up then faded in the second half before being traded to NY.  He would pitch the occasional gem but more duds than gems and ultimately needed surgery.


Severino came up in the second half of 2015 and was every bit as good in his 1 games as Pineda was in his debut.  After a lost 2016 he went 33-14with a 3.18 ERA and 450 Ks in 2017-2018.  Granted he did fade in the second half of both seasons, but I gthunk he has a far greater track record to poit ot thanPineda ever did or is likely to have.

5 years ago  ::  Apr 09, 2019 - 1:34PM #20
Stewie
Posts: 2,450

Apr 9, 2019 -- 12:53PM, RobS44 wrote:


Apr 9, 2019 -- 12:20PM, Stewie wrote:


Apr 9, 2019 -- 12:17PM, RobS44 wrote:


Apr 9, 2019 -- 12:10PM, Stewie wrote:


Apr 9, 2019 -- 11:44AM, luvdayanks wrote:


Apr 8, 2019 -- 9:39PM, yanksbest wrote:


Time to sign Dallas Keichel. Otherwise, the playoffs will be a quick exit.




Do yourself a favor before naming Keuchle as a savior  and check out his record and especially  in the playoffs the last couple  of years. 2017 playoffs 11 earned runs in 26 innings, 2018 4 in 2 innings.He's not 2015 Dallas  Keuchel anymore  .




Uhhh, what I think we may have here is your basic Pineda-type situation.  A flashy start, all kinds of "potential," but then a drab so-so history, mostly due to shoulder injuries and a slow recovery; never the same again




are you referrng to Severino?




Right, Severino, not Keuchel.  Keuchel's just over and done with.




Not really a valid comparison.  Pineda had the one very good half season when he first came up then faded in the second half before being traded to NY.  He would pitch the occasional gem but more duds than gems and ultimately needed surgery.


Severino came up in the second half of 2015 and was every bit as good in his 1 games as Pineda was in his debut.  After a lost 2016 he went 33-14with a 3.18 ERA and 450 Ks in 2017-2018.  Granted he did fade in the second half of both seasons, but I gthunk he has a far greater track record to poit ot thanPineda ever did or is likely to have.




I didn't mean to say that the parallel was exact. In both cases you have a young, highly touted pitcher who burst on the scene with some impressive performance...but then a shoulder injury put him on the shelf for some time and when he returned was never the same, never close to the potential that had been ascribed to him.  One can only assume, regardless of what he said, that Severino's shoulder started bothering him at the point of his dramatic drop-off in performance last season.  That whole "telegraphing his pitches" thing sounded phony from the start.  If he was giving away his pitches last year, I can't believe that the whole league was seeing it but that Yankees personnel wasn't.

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