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3 years ago  ::  Jun 17, 2019 - 4:28PM #31
felipe27point5
Posts: 2,645

Jun 17, 2019 -- 4:02PM, NW wrote:


By the way, while you're trying to pin Trump on something that hasn't been proven, Congress still has a slush fund to legally make these hush payments for incumbents with YOUR TAX DOLLARS.  I don't hear anyone complaining about that.




Except that it has been proven. We've even seen the checks to reimburse Cohen signed by the president. That's why a co conspirator is in prison lol


If there's a slush fund in congress, that is also wrong. Whataboutism is a stupid argument because "so and so also broke the law" doesn't affect whether the law was broken elsewhere. 


Trump is a criminal, this is one example.

You are welcome to recall my posts when it becomes that i'm proven wrong as long as we judge it on the merits of what we knew to be true at the time it was posted.
3 years ago  ::  Jun 17, 2019 - 10:03PM #32
yankoldfan
Posts: 11,999

Jun 17, 2019 -- 3:13PM, NW wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 6:38AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 5:11AM, NW wrote:


Jun 16, 2019 -- 6:54AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 16, 2019 -- 12:24AM, NW wrote:


Jun 14, 2019 -- 3:20PM, yankoldfan wrote:

I have one question for the cons on this board ?? 


If you're going to advertise asking one question, ask only one question please.


Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, now this is the question, if either or both did just exactly the same things as donald trump #45 has done, would you all be covering up for them like you do for donald ?? 



Probably not, because I'm a Republican.  It's not my job to cover for the opponent.


If they stopped any investigations into their lives like donald has, if they lied to the US like donald has, if they said it was OK for a foreign country to help in their campaign to get them elected, do I need to go on ?? Now answer these questions truthfully ??


Obama influenced the FBI so, despite doing an "investigation", they wouldn't charge Hillary.  Hell, some WikiLeaks guy found evidence the FBI didn't.


Obama lied to the US for 8 years as president and another during his campaign (not to mention he's still lying).


Hillary used foreign countries to help in her campaign.


Meanwhile, Obama/Hillary used the DOJ to try to influence an election with illegal surveillance of Trump.  Then he denied it and it was later admitted by the FBI.  It's funny how all of the stuff Obama laughed off ended up true after all.


I'm sure the answer I will get is that donald hasn't done any of those things, or Hillary/Obama made him do it, it's all their fault...






Well Dan, I still only want to know one answer to my one questions, if Hillary or Obama had done what donald has done, would you cons be defending them like you do donald ?? Cons on this board still always want to answer this question with still pointing fingers at Hillary/Obama ?? It can be answered by a simple yes or no !!!




As far as I know, President Trump has not done anything that has raised to the level of a crime. 




That is still dodging the question, I asked if Hillary or Obama would have done the same things donald has done while in office would you have thought it was OK ??




What "things" are you referring to that President Trump has done while in office that should be so offensive to me?




In a roundabout way you answered my question, what's offensive to you is completely different than what would be offensive to you if Hillary/Obama did the same thing ??? You cons have different standards for a person with an R infront of their name then you do for a person with a D infront of their name, that's for sure...

3 years ago  ::  Jun 18, 2019 - 8:32AM #33
NW
Posts: 4,355

Jun 17, 2019 -- 10:03PM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 3:13PM, NW wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 6:38AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 5:11AM, NW wrote:


Jun 16, 2019 -- 6:54AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 16, 2019 -- 12:24AM, NW wrote:


Jun 14, 2019 -- 3:20PM, yankoldfan wrote:

I have one question for the cons on this board ?? 


If you're going to advertise asking one question, ask only one question please.


Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, now this is the question, if either or both did just exactly the same things as donald trump #45 has done, would you all be covering up for them like you do for donald ?? 



Probably not, because I'm a Republican.  It's not my job to cover for the opponent.


If they stopped any investigations into their lives like donald has, if they lied to the US like donald has, if they said it was OK for a foreign country to help in their campaign to get them elected, do I need to go on ?? Now answer these questions truthfully ??


Obama influenced the FBI so, despite doing an "investigation", they wouldn't charge Hillary.  Hell, some WikiLeaks guy found evidence the FBI didn't.


Obama lied to the US for 8 years as president and another during his campaign (not to mention he's still lying).


Hillary used foreign countries to help in her campaign.


Meanwhile, Obama/Hillary used the DOJ to try to influence an election with illegal surveillance of Trump.  Then he denied it and it was later admitted by the FBI.  It's funny how all of the stuff Obama laughed off ended up true after all.


I'm sure the answer I will get is that donald hasn't done any of those things, or Hillary/Obama made him do it, it's all their fault...






Well Dan, I still only want to know one answer to my one questions, if Hillary or Obama had done what donald has done, would you cons be defending them like you do donald ?? Cons on this board still always want to answer this question with still pointing fingers at Hillary/Obama ?? It can be answered by a simple yes or no !!!




As far as I know, President Trump has not done anything that has raised to the level of a crime. 




That is still dodging the question, I asked if Hillary or Obama would have done the same things donald has done while in office would you have thought it was OK ??




What "things" are you referring to that President Trump has done while in office that should be so offensive to me?




In a roundabout way you answered my question, what's offensive to you is completely different than what would be offensive to you if Hillary/Obama did the same thing ??? You cons have different standards for a person with an R infront of their name then you do for a person with a D infront of their name, that's for sure...




You still haven't answered my question.  What things are you referring to?

3 years ago  ::  Jun 18, 2019 - 10:34AM #34
yankoldfan
Posts: 11,999

Jun 18, 2019 -- 8:32AM, NW wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 10:03PM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 3:13PM, NW wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 6:38AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 5:11AM, NW wrote:


Jun 16, 2019 -- 6:54AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 16, 2019 -- 12:24AM, NW wrote:


Jun 14, 2019 -- 3:20PM, yankoldfan wrote:

I have one question for the cons on this board ?? 


If you're going to advertise asking one question, ask only one question please.


Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, now this is the question, if either or both did just exactly the same things as donald trump #45 has done, would you all be covering up for them like you do for donald ?? 



Probably not, because I'm a Republican.  It's not my job to cover for the opponent.


If they stopped any investigations into their lives like donald has, if they lied to the US like donald has, if they said it was OK for a foreign country to help in their campaign to get them elected, do I need to go on ?? Now answer these questions truthfully ??


Obama influenced the FBI so, despite doing an "investigation", they wouldn't charge Hillary.  Hell, some WikiLeaks guy found evidence the FBI didn't.


Obama lied to the US for 8 years as president and another during his campaign (not to mention he's still lying).


Hillary used foreign countries to help in her campaign.


Meanwhile, Obama/Hillary used the DOJ to try to influence an election with illegal surveillance of Trump.  Then he denied it and it was later admitted by the FBI.  It's funny how all of the stuff Obama laughed off ended up true after all.


I'm sure the answer I will get is that donald hasn't done any of those things, or Hillary/Obama made him do it, it's all their fault...






Well Dan, I still only want to know one answer to my one questions, if Hillary or Obama had done what donald has done, would you cons be defending them like you do donald ?? Cons on this board still always want to answer this question with still pointing fingers at Hillary/Obama ?? It can be answered by a simple yes or no !!!




As far as I know, President Trump has not done anything that has raised to the level of a crime. 




That is still dodging the question, I asked if Hillary or Obama would have done the same things donald has done while in office would you have thought it was OK ??




What "things" are you referring to that President Trump has done while in office that should be so offensive to me?




In a roundabout way you answered my question, what's offensive to you is completely different than what would be offensive to you if Hillary/Obama did the same thing ??? You cons have different standards for a person with an R infront of their name then you do for a person with a D infront of their name, that's for sure...




You still haven't answered my question.  What things are you referring to?




There's really no sense in telling you what crimes because you don't believe donald committed any.. The trouble there's so many people that prove you wrong so what's the use of telling you, again you just don't see the crime.. But again if Hillary/Obama did the same they would be crimes ?? So how can I get an answer when you feel the way you do ??

3 years ago  ::  Jun 18, 2019 - 10:43AM #35
bertram
Posts: 17,791

Today's GOP...Hypocrisy Is Our Middle Name

3 years ago  ::  Jun 18, 2019 - 10:49AM #36
NW
Posts: 4,355

Jun 18, 2019 -- 10:34AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 18, 2019 -- 8:32AM, NW wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 10:03PM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 3:13PM, NW wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 6:38AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 5:11AM, NW wrote:


Jun 16, 2019 -- 6:54AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 16, 2019 -- 12:24AM, NW wrote:


Jun 14, 2019 -- 3:20PM, yankoldfan wrote:

I have one question for the cons on this board ?? 


If you're going to advertise asking one question, ask only one question please.


Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, now this is the question, if either or both did just exactly the same things as donald trump #45 has done, would you all be covering up for them like you do for donald ?? 



Probably not, because I'm a Republican.  It's not my job to cover for the opponent.


If they stopped any investigations into their lives like donald has, if they lied to the US like donald has, if they said it was OK for a foreign country to help in their campaign to get them elected, do I need to go on ?? Now answer these questions truthfully ??


Obama influenced the FBI so, despite doing an "investigation", they wouldn't charge Hillary.  Hell, some WikiLeaks guy found evidence the FBI didn't.


Obama lied to the US for 8 years as president and another during his campaign (not to mention he's still lying).


Hillary used foreign countries to help in her campaign.


Meanwhile, Obama/Hillary used the DOJ to try to influence an election with illegal surveillance of Trump.  Then he denied it and it was later admitted by the FBI.  It's funny how all of the stuff Obama laughed off ended up true after all.


I'm sure the answer I will get is that donald hasn't done any of those things, or Hillary/Obama made him do it, it's all their fault...






Well Dan, I still only want to know one answer to my one questions, if Hillary or Obama had done what donald has done, would you cons be defending them like you do donald ?? Cons on this board still always want to answer this question with still pointing fingers at Hillary/Obama ?? It can be answered by a simple yes or no !!!




As far as I know, President Trump has not done anything that has raised to the level of a crime. 




That is still dodging the question, I asked if Hillary or Obama would have done the same things donald has done while in office would you have thought it was OK ??




What "things" are you referring to that President Trump has done while in office that should be so offensive to me?




In a roundabout way you answered my question, what's offensive to you is completely different than what would be offensive to you if Hillary/Obama did the same thing ??? You cons have different standards for a person with an R infront of their name then you do for a person with a D infront of their name, that's for sure...




You still haven't answered my question.  What things are you referring to?




There's really no sense in telling you what crimes because you don't believe donald committed any.. The trouble there's so many people that prove you wrong so what's the use of telling you, again you just don't see the crime.. But again if Hillary/Obama did the same they would be crimes ?? So how can I get an answer when you feel the way you do ??




Again, I'm imploring you.  Name just one thing that Trump has done in office that you feel is a crime.  You asked the ****ing question and then ****ed when people didn't give you answers.  Now you're refusing to accept an answer.  ****ing hypocrite.

3 years ago  ::  Jun 18, 2019 - 11:05AM #37
NY23
Posts: 20,968

FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTORS RENEW STATEMENT THAT TRUMP WOULD HAVE BEEN INDICTED IF HE WEREN’T PRESIDENT


In a follow-up to Robert Mueller's public statement on Wednesday, in which he refused to clear President Donald Trump of wrongdoing, a group of former federal prosecutors renewed their previous statement that under nearly any other circumstance Trump would be facing criminal charges.


More than 1,000 bipartisan former prosecutors have now signed their names on a petition maintaining that if Trump weren't president of the United States, he would have been indicted on multiple charges for obstruction of justice.

3 years ago  ::  Jun 18, 2019 - 11:07AM #38
yankoldfan
Posts: 11,999

Jun 18, 2019 -- 10:49AM, NW wrote:


Jun 18, 2019 -- 10:34AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 18, 2019 -- 8:32AM, NW wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 10:03PM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 3:13PM, NW wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 6:38AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 5:11AM, NW wrote:


Jun 16, 2019 -- 6:54AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 16, 2019 -- 12:24AM, NW wrote:


Jun 14, 2019 -- 3:20PM, yankoldfan wrote:

I have one question for the cons on this board ?? 


If you're going to advertise asking one question, ask only one question please.


Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, now this is the question, if either or both did just exactly the same things as donald trump #45 has done, would you all be covering up for them like you do for donald ?? 



Probably not, because I'm a Republican.  It's not my job to cover for the opponent.


If they stopped any investigations into their lives like donald has, if they lied to the US like donald has, if they said it was OK for a foreign country to help in their campaign to get them elected, do I need to go on ?? Now answer these questions truthfully ??


Obama influenced the FBI so, despite doing an "investigation", they wouldn't charge Hillary.  Hell, some WikiLeaks guy found evidence the FBI didn't.


Obama lied to the US for 8 years as president and another during his campaign (not to mention he's still lying).


Hillary used foreign countries to help in her campaign.


Meanwhile, Obama/Hillary used the DOJ to try to influence an election with illegal surveillance of Trump.  Then he denied it and it was later admitted by the FBI.  It's funny how all of the stuff Obama laughed off ended up true after all.


I'm sure the answer I will get is that donald hasn't done any of those things, or Hillary/Obama made him do it, it's all their fault...






Well Dan, I still only want to know one answer to my one questions, if Hillary or Obama had done what donald has done, would you cons be defending them like you do donald ?? Cons on this board still always want to answer this question with still pointing fingers at Hillary/Obama ?? It can be answered by a simple yes or no !!!




As far as I know, President Trump has not done anything that has raised to the level of a crime. 




That is still dodging the question, I asked if Hillary or Obama would have done the same things donald has done while in office would you have thought it was OK ??




What "things" are you referring to that President Trump has done while in office that should be so offensive to me?




In a roundabout way you answered my question, what's offensive to you is completely different than what would be offensive to you if Hillary/Obama did the same thing ??? You cons have different standards for a person with an R infront of their name then you do for a person with a D infront of their name, that's for sure...




You still haven't answered my question.  What things are you referring to?




There's really no sense in telling you what crimes because you don't believe donald committed any.. The trouble there's so many people that prove you wrong so what's the use of telling you, again you just don't see the crime.. But again if Hillary/Obama did the same they would be crimes ?? So how can I get an answer when you feel the way you do ??




Again, I'm imploring you.  Name just one thing that Trump has done in office that you feel is a crime.  You asked the ****ing question and then ****ed when people didn't give you answers.  Now you're refusing to accept an answer.  ****ing hypocrite.




Let's start by paying off hookers so they don't tell their story ?? Let's add obstruction of justice ?? Let's add making money on his businesses when the POTUS is not supposed to do that, I could go on forever... Again it's ok if a R. does it but not a D...

3 years ago  ::  Jun 18, 2019 - 11:12AM #39
bertram
Posts: 17,791

The list of Trump cabal crimes is long.  And if he weren't in office, he'd have been indicted already.

3 years ago  ::  Jun 18, 2019 - 11:30AM #40
NW
Posts: 4,355

Jun 18, 2019 -- 11:07AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 18, 2019 -- 10:49AM, NW wrote:


Jun 18, 2019 -- 10:34AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 18, 2019 -- 8:32AM, NW wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 10:03PM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 3:13PM, NW wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 6:38AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 17, 2019 -- 5:11AM, NW wrote:


Jun 16, 2019 -- 6:54AM, yankoldfan wrote:


Jun 16, 2019 -- 12:24AM, NW wrote:


Jun 14, 2019 -- 3:20PM, yankoldfan wrote:

I have one question for the cons on this board ?? 


If you're going to advertise asking one question, ask only one question please.


Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, now this is the question, if either or both did just exactly the same things as donald trump #45 has done, would you all be covering up for them like you do for donald ?? 



Probably not, because I'm a Republican.  It's not my job to cover for the opponent.


If they stopped any investigations into their lives like donald has, if they lied to the US like donald has, if they said it was OK for a foreign country to help in their campaign to get them elected, do I need to go on ?? Now answer these questions truthfully ??


Obama influenced the FBI so, despite doing an "investigation", they wouldn't charge Hillary.  Hell, some WikiLeaks guy found evidence the FBI didn't.


Obama lied to the US for 8 years as president and another during his campaign (not to mention he's still lying).


Hillary used foreign countries to help in her campaign.


Meanwhile, Obama/Hillary used the DOJ to try to influence an election with illegal surveillance of Trump.  Then he denied it and it was later admitted by the FBI.  It's funny how all of the stuff Obama laughed off ended up true after all.


I'm sure the answer I will get is that donald hasn't done any of those things, or Hillary/Obama made him do it, it's all their fault...






Well Dan, I still only want to know one answer to my one questions, if Hillary or Obama had done what donald has done, would you cons be defending them like you do donald ?? Cons on this board still always want to answer this question with still pointing fingers at Hillary/Obama ?? It can be answered by a simple yes or no !!!




As far as I know, President Trump has not done anything that has raised to the level of a crime. 




That is still dodging the question, I asked if Hillary or Obama would have done the same things donald has done while in office would you have thought it was OK ??




What "things" are you referring to that President Trump has done while in office that should be so offensive to me?




In a roundabout way you answered my question, what's offensive to you is completely different than what would be offensive to you if Hillary/Obama did the same thing ??? You cons have different standards for a person with an R infront of their name then you do for a person with a D infront of their name, that's for sure...




You still haven't answered my question.  What things are you referring to?




There's really no sense in telling you what crimes because you don't believe donald committed any.. The trouble there's so many people that prove you wrong so what's the use of telling you, again you just don't see the crime.. But again if Hillary/Obama did the same they would be crimes ?? So how can I get an answer when you feel the way you do ??




Again, I'm imploring you.  Name just one thing that Trump has done in office that you feel is a crime.  You asked the ****ing question and then ****ed when people didn't give you answers.  Now you're refusing to accept an answer.  ****ing hypocrite.




Let's start by paying off hookers so they don't tell their story ?? Let's add obstruction of justice ?? Let's add making money on his businesses when the POTUS is not supposed to do that, I could go on forever... Again it's ok if a R. does it but not a D...




First ... paying off hookers didn't happen "while he was in office", which was the premise of your question.  It's also not illegal to enter into a non-disclosure agreement with another person.  


Second... obstruction of justice.  There is no proof that Trump obstructed justice.  Show me proof and I'll consider it.


Third ... making money on his businesses.  That's a plain old joke.  Obama made millions by funnelling projects to companies in which he had heavy investments.  Bush and Cheney, same deal.  Clinton and Gore, same deal.  Unless you want to freeze all of a president's assets and force them to put all of their investments into government bonds while they're president, you're not going to stop them from making money.  The fact is that Trump is just doing it in a different way, not as a shareholder, but as a business owner (which in essence, shareholers are business owners).

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